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MDMA: Is the "magic" gone forever?

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I haven't taken MDMA/Ecstasy for around 2 years or so. In 9th-10th grade I was really big E user, and I took around 30-40 pills in 2010 alone. The last time I took it, which was about 6 months since the last time I had taken it (the 5 times I had taken it last during that period, I took 3-5 pills that were supposedly very strong, yet I didn't feel anything more than a slight tingly feeling all around my body, and I could barely keep my eyes open), and since I hadn't rolled successfully the last few times i used it, I dosed high and used a high BA ROA (approx 150-200mg plugged solution)I didn't roll, just felt a warm feeling all over my body that lasted all of about 15 minutes.

Now it's been 2 whole years since I last took MDMA or MDA or any empathogen for that matter, but during that period I've developed a high-ass tolerance to methamphetamine and most other stimulants (cocaine, d-amphetamine, and methylphenidate doesn't even work anymore, regardless of dose), to the point where i'd need around a point or two of meth snorted to get high (I've since decided to quit meth even though I wasn't a regular user, because my tolerance was getting stupidly high), and today, around 90mg of dextroamphetamine was enough to get me a little spun.

If I were to take MDMA today (I'm not going to take any today, quite possibly never again), seeing as I've been off MDMA for 2 years, would I be able to roll again? I don't mean like roll as hard as my first time, but the last few times that I actually felt something close to a roll, it felt more like dl-amphetamine with slight empathogenic qualities. There was no rush, no energy, just tingly limbs and a slight mental euphoria. Sort of like how I hear 4-FA is like. I'd like to be able to take some MDMA and feel something more akin to my first 10 rolls, which weren't nearly as good as the very first one, but they had a rush, empathogenic effects, insights, and it lasted around 3-5 hours, instead of 30 minutes, which is how long it lasted by the 15th roll or so. I've only plugged it once, which was also the only time i've ever had "molly" as opposed to the pressed tablets I was used to, and that was the last time I took MDMA (and as i said in the first paragraph, I didn't roll from plugging 2 molly capsules but simply felt very warm). If I try molly again, I will most likely use this ROA.

So, given my meth tolerance and my past abuse of MDMA, would it be possible for me to roll again? I have a connect for reasonably pure (i tested it myself) MDMA capsules, and since I'm getting some ketamine soon, and I kind of want to combine them, possibly with LSD as well, but I'm not gonna buy anything until I know that MDMA tolerance isn't forever.

It just doesn't make sense that while drugs like weed, cocaine, meth, and heroin will always retain their "magic" after a long period of abstinence, MDMA just stops working altogether (from what I've been told). I've read so many different things about MDMA tolerance, and I've seen everything from "a brief 5-day period of tolerance" to "tolerance is permanent and irreversible".

So what do you guys think? Is the "magic" gone? Is MDMA tolerance permanent? Should I wait a while until my amphetamine tolerance lowers?

If anyone can provide some reliable source that explains MDMA tolerance, that would be really helpful.
 
Dude, how can anyone possibly know this?! Anyone who actually tries to tell you if you will be able to properly roll again, or not, is going to be someone who just loves giving advice and can't help offering an opinion.

The biggest problems with BL, imo is the enormous amount of pointless questions that entitle threads...along with the guys who are really judgmental posters. Love the site, but come on dudes!
 
IF you have a high tolerance to meth then you are going to have a high tolerance to MDMA. weather or not you can have a proper MDMA experience is impossible to tell...Tolerance to MDMA is a tricky devil. some people find it goes conciderably after a long time without and for some after years without they still have a high tolerance. It is different for everyone.

all you can do is try it an find out. I would like to see you be a bit farther away from meth use that you are now before trying it though. maybe a stay away from the stims for a few months and give MDMA a try. don't be suprized if you don't get great effects though.

Try a normal dose (100-120mg) and see where that gets you. no sence in taking more the first time out. you may never get to where you want to be again...so until you know, there is no sense in eating a shit ton on MDMA and wasting time and money and only ending up pissed off cus it didn't work. If you don't get good effects off 100-120mg, wait a least a month before trying a higher initial dose. say 150-200mg. if you don't get good effects that time you may want to give up on MDMA.

Lot of people are having good results with using suplements to reduce tolerance you may want to look into that as well.
 
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Hey BigFan, couple of questions first..


How do you know your "molly" is MDMA? More methylone is sold as "molly" than MDMA is these days, I'm afraid... Do you have a reagent tester?

and if it is MDMA, how do you know it's not rather impure, as in, cut to shit?

How often have you been using methamphetamine, and when was the last time you used a large amount?

It's been two years since you touched MDMA... but how often have you been using other serotonergic/doperminergic drugs in that time period? What about the RC cathinones? (methylone, pentylone and such) Have those worked for you?




MDMA "tolerance" is reversible... but permanent Serotonin downregulation is not :\ I highly doubt that you will NEVER be able to get a good roll again, it's just not something I see happening. BUT, if you really want to do this... you might need to make some sacrifices. Stay off ALL drugs for about a month, maybe even 2 or 3 if you REALLY want to make things heal up. Maybe do some opiates, smoke some weed to pass the time.... but absolutely stay away from meth and other stimulants during that period. Make sure to exercise, get sun light and eat healthy (diet high in L-Tryptophan, check DarksidedSam's "E diet") to help speed along serotonin production.

After then, you should be about as primed to roll as you possibly can be... I would disagree with taking a 100mg dose first, that probably wouldn't get you where you wanted to be even with no tolerance, as I know you're quite the fan of them drugs lmao. Honestly, for you, I would recommend 200mg straight up.... and none of that "molly" shit, FUCK that. Molly is notoriously impure these days.... what you want is high quality MDMA crystal. Nothing else. So yeah, 200mg of PURE crystal down the hatch (forget plugging for MDMA, I don't have a problem with it, but it's really not the best way to take it.). Normally that would be WAY too much of the good shit for anyone, but I think you can handle it. If that isn't doing anything though.. well, you might just be fucked buddy :\ sorry haha....



I would definitely take the LSD and ketamine with it though, MDMA by itself isn't even that great for me to be honest. It's when it's combined with other drugs that it REALLY shines.




Good luck bro, I hope you find what you are looking for.




is going to be someone who just loves giving advice and can't help offering an opinion.

Hey! I take offense to that! ;)
 
The biggest problems with BL, imo is the enormous amount of pointless questions that entitle

this is what the focus forums are about man...there is no getting around it. if you hang out here you will see the same question over and over again thats just the way it is. if you don't like answering them then keep your trap shut. if you don't like seeing them...try the loung or some where else.

the focus forums are here to help all commers with their questions. it is human nature to take the easiest road possible. that means that people tend to post a question rather and searching for the answer before hand. also new users don't know the system and may not know how to search.

I for one would much rather answer the same question 1000 times than to read a headline of another drug user that made a deadly mistake.
 
this is what the focus forums are about man...there is no getting around it. if you hang out here you will see the same question over and over again thats just the way it is. if you don't like answering them then keep your trap shut. if you don't like seeing them...try the loung or some where else.

the focus forums are here to help all commers with their questions. it is human nature to take the easiest road possible. that means that people tend to post a question rather and searching for the answer before hand. also new users don't know the system and may not know how to search.

I for one would much rather answer the same question 1000 times than to read a headline of another drug user that made a deadly mistake.

The majority of the questions posted are people looking for some kind of attention or reaction from everyone, if these posts are being asked and asked again why not read the fucking sticky topics.

Anyone ever heard of the SEARCH button?

Its like they are just asking for the sake of getting into some sort of discussion. Maybe the people who would rather reply to the same question a million times might help with donating some money to the BL server, because people are too lazy too use the simple search function. Whats quicker a 3 second search or writing out a whole essay about your life story, with thousands of responses which usually are nothing related to the question by about the 2nd page?
 
Smoke (some) weed on your comeup and while rolling, and when coming down smoke lots. For me it intensifies the roll x10
 
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