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Withdrawing from Oxycontin

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littlejohn

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Hi All,

Been tapering down now on oxy for almost a month and now down to 15mgs per day.

Eating food makes me feel like crap, less i take some oxy an hour before i eat.

i have this entire week off and i'm down to 15mgs per day, don't have to return to work till Jan. 2, 2013..... so, considering i've been taking this stuff since feb. and i am almost at the end here's what I'm thinking----

try to just go to 5mg's a day the day after christmas and just stay in bed and (sure i have plenty of oxy and xanax and trazadone) so this will all be on my own will power, but F oxy drug, I'm getting off of it. Don't need it anymore and it's effecting my life and work (so far no trouble yet, but I can see it happening if I don't take some drastic measures "NOW". Can I taper off of it, yes I can, I have the will power and don't need a clinic. I had an accident and was taking the oxy and have had no problems tapering down, don't have an addictive personality, thank goodness. Sorry for those of you that do, I really feel your pain. This drug is brutal!

It's gonna be tough but i figure if i just go to 5mg's a day starting day after christmas and then start loading up on the immodium and just sleeping and dealing, I should be OK when I get back to work on Jan. 2 i have an entire week to kick this stuff. I'd hate to just go cold turkey as that might be brutal going from 15mgs down to nothing... and not necessary (?????) having been taking oxy since Feb. was up to about 100mgs per day at one point. What I am concerned about is that by the time i get back to work I might be in bad shape, but a week is a long time..... ... to go nearly cold turkey. Been thinking of using Xanax and Trazadone as a tool. Xanax to relax at night and Trazadone to knock me out and prevent the weird dreams that I hear people get from Trazadone. I'm on Trazadone from my doctor and Xanax too but I don't want to start uping too much Xanax, just to have another habit to taper off of, although Xanax is WAY cheaper so it will be easier to taper off of. Was getting Oxy from Dr. at first and then got addicted to it tried to go cold turkey but I have to work. Then I can just stop taking the oxy altogether on Jan. 5th and stay in bed all weekend.

Anyone see problems with my plan. Appreciate the feedback!
 
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I would personally take 7.5 mgs for a couple of days then 5 mgs for a couple days and then get off of it.
Good for you that your getting off of Oxy!! I personally never have had a additive personality either but after years of taking opiates they finally got the better of me.
 
With opiates in general, it's going to be unpleasant one way or another. You have tapered to a fairly reasonable amount. The sooner you can quit using all together the better it will be for you. Since you have the time off, feeling like crap then is going to trump feeling like crap when you're back at work.

I would say within the time frame you have given you should be fairly normalized by the time you will need to return to work. Don't expect to feel exactly your old self, but things will improve slow and steady as time elapses.

A final side thought, using benzos as a tool when kicking a habit like this is fine, just bear in mind that you don't want to end up with an addiction to those. Trust me when I say, they are equally nasty.
 
I wish you luck but honestly, once you're down to 7.5 or 5mg a day, I think the worst of it is over. There'll be a little discomfort but it won't be that bad at that level. Personally, I had to withdrawal from 400mg of oxycontin a day cold turkey and I survived. It can be done. I think at this point, most of it will be mental. Avoid triggers and stay busy. I hope it goes well but I really think you'll be fine.
 
I dont see any "problems" per-say..
But this is my feedback, for what it is worth..
First, quite simply, as I learned in drug rehab/detox when I was in my twenties (23 years ago), attempting to control your use is a symptom of addiction and never an answer.
"COLD TURKEY" is and always will be the only way to completely defeat your addiction.. 8 days of feeling like hammered shite and then stand up.....and walk.
Now.. there are not a large percentage of people with the will power nor the want to be able to do this. Me included. I have in my drug addicted past gone 8+ days without my fix but it wasent by choice but for simple lack of funds.. the time spent in withdrawal passed as did the symptoms. But the addiction was still there and as soon as I was able I went right back to the dope and was off to the races again.
Frankly once your a pickle you can never be a cucumber again..
I was addicted to the old, abuse-able Oxycontin tablets. I was banging up my arm 240MG of oxycodone per day. thats 4 60MG pills every day with no prescription. About [no prices] per day. When purdue changed the formula my hometown seemingly was the first to get rid of the old and stocked up with the new, completely useless pills and I inevitably went to yanking Heroin..
This was a nightmare as I had never dreamed the withdrawl could be so horrible..
So what I did was dragged myself to the nearest suboxone clinic and there I was..
I tell you the truth. I recieved one prescription and that was all I needed. The doc wrote me 90. Three a day..
One was all I needed for one day I found out.. Seriously, I took one a day 2MG at a time. I broke the orange pill into 4 corners and took that during the day. This went on for 2 weeks and then I got brave and went to 3/4 per day.. two weeks and only took half.. I stayed taking 1/4 pill for several weeks when I found myself forgetting to take my dose before work. So I started purposely skipping days until I had finally realized that I no longer needed to take this miracle pill any longer and I sit here completely drug free and very much alive today as a result...
Im not a spokesperson for Suboxone but I will swear by it.

So to close I say this... no matter what one does or how he/she goes about getting off a drug, It will always depend on your will power and ultimately your desire to stop using.. There is no majik cure nor is there a fail safe method. It all depends on how bad you want to be clean...

As for problems with your plan?? I see none. As long as you follow thru to get the end result.. But do not EVER expect the psycological craving to get a buzz to go away BECAUSE IT NEVER WILL..
Brownshirt..
 
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one more note.. I noticed that you stated you were planning to "go down to 7.5-5 Mg's per day"... My man, if thats all your taking then you just about have it whipped!! Jeez I remember when 1/2 of a lortab made me pill sick and laying motionless on the couch lest I be dizzy and puking all over! Shit man, when I was really sick (addicted) 9 frigging lortab 10's would not even touch my threshold... NE-way, good luck to you!!
littlejohn said:
Hi All,

Been tapering down now on oxy for almost a month and now down to 15mgs per day.

Eating food makes me feel like crap, less i take some oxy an hour before i eat.

i have this entire week off and i'm down to 15mgs per day, don't have to return to work till Jan. 2, 2013..... so, considering i've been taking this stuff since feb. and i am almost at the end here's what I'm thinking----

try to just go to 5mg's a day the day after christmas and just stay in bed and (sure i have plenty of oxy and xanax and trazadone) so this will all be on my own will power, but F oxy drug, I'm getting off of it. Don't need it anymore and it's effecting my life and work (so far no trouble yet, but I can see it happening if I don't take some drastic measures "NOW". Can I taper off of it, yes I can, I have the will power and don't need a clinic. I had an accident and was taking the oxy and have had no problems tapering down, don't have an addictive personality, thank goodness. Sorry for those of you that do, I really feel your pain. This drug is brutal!

It's gonna be tough but i figure if i just go to 5mg's a day starting day after christmas and then start loading up on the immodium and just sleeping and dealing, I should be OK when I get back to work on Jan. 2 i have an entire week to kick this stuff. I'd hate to just go cold turkey as that might be brutal going from 15mgs down to nothing... and not necessary (?????) having been taking oxy since Feb. was up to about 100mgs per day at one point. What I am concerned about is that by the time i get back to work I might be in bad shape, but a week is a long time..... ... to go nearly cold turkey. Been thinking of using Xanax and Trazadone as a tool. Xanax to relax at night and Trazadone to knock me out and prevent the weird dreams that I hear people get from Trazadone. I'm on Trazadone from my doctor and Xanax too but I don't want to start uping too much Xanax, just to have another habit to taper off of, although Xanax is WAY cheaper so it will be easier to taper off of. Was getting Oxy from Dr. at first and then got addicted to it tried to go cold turkey but I have to work. Then I can just stop taking the oxy altogether on Jan. 5th and stay in bed all weekend.

Anyone see problems with my plan. Appreciate the feedback!
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After experimenting for a few years with various drugs, herbs, teas, etc., I use the following cocktail of drugs in moderate to high dosages because I find this combo pretty much fully suppresses the acute effects of opiate withdrawal (regardless of how much I was using):

Imodium (Loperamide) - 6 to 8mg every 8-12 hours (diarrhea, intestinal cramping)
Gravol (Dimenhydrinate) - 25 to 50mg every 4-6 hours (nausea, watery eyes, runny nose, dizziness)
Catapres (Clonidine) - 0.1 to 1.0mg every 10-12 hours (sweating, hot/cold flashes, hypertension, tachycardia)
Lyrica (Pregabalin) - 150-300mg every 4-6 hours (muscle aches/pain, involuntary limb movements/jerking)
Xanax (Alprazolam) - 0.5-2.0 two to three times daily (restlessness, insomnia, vivid dreams, paranoia, anxiety, racing thoughts)
Tylenol (Acetaminophen) - 325-975mg every 4-6 hours (headaches, fever)
 
ro4eva said:
Imodium (Loperamide) - 6 to 8mg every 8-12 hours (diarrhea, intestinal cramping)
Gravol (Dimenhydrinate) - 25 to 50mg every 4-6 hours (nausea, watery eyes, runny nose, dizziness)
Catapres (Clonidine) - 0.1 to 1.0mg every 10-12 hours (sweating, hot/cold flashes, hypertension, tachycardia)
Lyrica (Pregabalin) - 150-300mg every 4-6 hours (muscle aches/pain, involuntary limb movements/jerking)
Xanax (Alprazolam) - 0.5-2.0 two to three times daily (restlessness, insomnia, vivid dreams, paranoia, anxiety, racing thoughts)
Tylenol (Acetaminophen) - 325-975mg every 4-6 hours (headaches, fever)
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Nice arsenol, do you taper the Clonidine & Aalprazolam or only take it as needed? Do you also use marijuana to help?
 
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Tosh.Suku said:
Nice arsenol, do you taper the Clonidine & Aalprazolam or only take it as needed? Do you also use marijuana to help?
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I taper them; although, sometimes I'll intentionally skip/miss a dose depending on how I'm feeling (e.g. Xanax 2x daily instead of 3). Also, this is probably painfully obvious, but if I find I'm feeling worse in some way - for example, if I find that muscle aches/pain have been intensifying, that would be a good reason to increase Lyrica dosage.

Re. Marijuana - I haven't used it regularly in years. Very rarely actually. I wish things were different, however, a few years back (about 6), I began to get these massive panic attacks whenever I'd smoke weed. So that was the end of that. Therefore, no, I don't use it to help. Doesn't mean it won't help others though (for example, the anti-nauseant effect).

Lastly, I forgot to mention - usually after the acute withdrawal stage, I find I tend to become rather depressed. That's when I start taking Wellbutrin XL 300mg OD (once daily). I find it works better because (1) it kicks in faster than other popular antidepressants; and (2) it provides me with a modest boost of energy, probably due to it's norepinephrine reuptake inhibiting properties. On the down side, it can make me irritable, and there's a small risk of seizures.

Another (hopefully last) Edit - This goes without saying (which is why I didn't mention it, until now); it's always important to provide your body with the nutrients it needs and to keep it hydrated (especially during withdrawal).
 
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Thank you everyone for the feedback, much appreciated, really and I'll check out that post. I know this info. is all over the place but weeding through it can be a chore in itself trying to filter out all of the tangent info.

Well, here I am, I have four days, 5mgs of oxy per day and then will take it through Friday and then try to go cold turkey on Sat. and maybe if too nasty, take 5mg on Sunday. I just gotta be able to get to work and not let this shit affect my work. Thanks all, this is a great community.

That's interesting, re: the suboxone, but since I'm down to 5m per day, I thinking the hard part is over. I did take about 4 mg of Xanax last night and then the Trazadone 50mg and it knocked me out good for about 12 hours. I just don't want to keep taking that much Xanax. I think I will start tapering down on the Xanax now as well. Anyone have a link to a a Xanax tapering schedule. I'm up to about 3-4mgs per day. In the meantime, I will keep looking. Going to go out for a walk and see if the fresh air will help me some too.

Thanks,
LJ
 
hefe1313 said:
marijuana helps me for sure. it is in fact a narcotic,
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I'm glad that MJ helps you, but it's not a true narcotic.

Present law regarding drugs defines/considers every banned/prohibited substance a narcotic. Unfortunately, that's just the way they are referred to due to the fact the (hypocritical, contradictory) law regarding street drugs was drafted by crooked politicians with personal agendas (usually always revolving around money or power/control) rather than unbiased professionals in the field of medicine and such.

Hence, a true narcotic is, in other words, an opiate (naturally occurring, such as morphine) or opioid (semi and/or fully synthetic; one example would be methadone).

So.... I'm gonna go now, lest I be considered a <something derogatory>. Have a good one!
 
so far so good. down to 5mg per day and my taper schedule that my friend put me on, who was an oxy, heroin, opiate addict hardcore has me at 5mg for 10 days. Is that too long or not long enough. I under stand that I'll probably need some immodium after my last day? I don't want to carry this out any longer than I need to as I need to keep working. I could take off "one" day if the cramps were unbearable but I could would think that immodium with be an "ass" saver pun intended! :)
 
littlejohn said:
so far so good. down to 5mg per day and my taper schedule that my friend put me on, who was an oxy, heroin, opiate addict hardcore has me at 5mg for 10 days. Is that too long or not long enough. I under stand that I'll probably need some immodium after my last day? I don't want to carry this out any longer than I need to as I need to keep working. I could take off "one" day if the cramps were unbearable but I could would think that immodium with be an "ass" saver pun intended! :)
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Yes I'm pretty sure you will need some Imodium afterwards.

By the way, did you know that the active ingredient in Imodium (Loperamide) is an opioid? That's why it's so effective against diarrhea. However it cannot cross the blood-brain barrier (can't bind to mu-opioid receptors in the CNS), and as a result, it will not produce any psychoactive effects. It's saving grace is that our intestines also have opioid receptors, which it binds to, which reduces gut motility and thereby causing constipation. Surprisingly, a lot of people do not realize they're ingesting an OTC opioid to combat one of the major effects of Opiate Withdrawal Syndrome.

Anyways, don't worry - Imodium is not addictive. Plus, it's routinely recommended by doctors if trying to kick the habit.

You know what may help (at least temporarily, and assuming the worst has passed) - masturbation. Watch some porn and jack off. The climax will cause your brain to flood your CNS with natural endorphins. Rinse and repeat. Not too much though - chaffing hurts.

In any case, I think you're doing a great job - I mean that. I know it's not easy, but hang in there and the acute phase will subside soon.
 
I am currently taking 3 oxy 80mg / day just stoped snorting them recently.
Now I am planning on tappering down until I stop. But dont want to got cold turkey and feel like really crap. I cannot do it atm. I dont have the time and need to be in good condition for work.

Any advice on how could I tapper down. the 2 on the morning are really necessary or I dont wake up or dont go to work. Now im trying to stop the 3rd one when I'm back home. But I have to say I feel really anxious, like crap , the idea of taking it is stuck on my head until I take it. Im trying to focus on other things, works, movies even porn . anything that could get my mind off the oxy. But it's really hard to focus on anything. So if you have tipps on how to slowly tappering down without all these disconfort feel free to answer. I'll appreciate it.

many thx guys, and good luck to anybody withdrawling from OC

also I was a H junkie at the time so I have to say I have it's hard for me when it comes on opiate.
 
what i did was swap oxy for heroin (cause id rather have 5 days of hell than 2 weeks or it) then reduced that, and took 8ml of bupe day one, 8ml day 2, 4ml day 3, then 2 then 1 then nothing..worked really well. then i relapsed and im on the program now...that doesnt even sound like advice now that i read it over hahah
 
stompbox said:
what i did was swap oxy for heroin (cause id rather have 5 days of hell than 2 weeks or it) then reduced that, and took 8ml of bupe day one, 8ml day 2, 4ml day 3, then 2 then 1 then nothing..worked really well. then i relapsed and im on the program now...that doesnt even sound like advice now that i read it over hahah
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No you're doing great man. Good for you for choosing MMT. It may very well save your life as it did mine. Before starting MMT, I tried detoxing countless times in rehab, jail, home, etc. I could never get the cravings to stop before I being started on the liquid.
 
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