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Mania vs Hypomania and Benzos

if you feel irritated you arent hypomanic. I do plan to keep on taking etizolam but at low doses so i dont get mania (dont seem to get mania from etiz at high doses either. The seroquel is a big help, slept amazing last night. I think im going to get some more kratom and use both to achieve my desired state.

i dont have any bad behavioral side effects from etizolam, i do get those with traditional benzos though. Either way my gf watches out for me and holds all of my money so i dont go on any more spending sprees lol. Im also going to go back to therapy and sort out some of these underlying
issues that make me want to stay on etizolam forever.
 
Yeah, with real hypomania, there's no anxiety or self doubt, it's just pure energy and confidence....It's not without a price, but any agitation or fear or depression goes out the window, you feel like you're in the "zone", although you may be kinda losing it! Other people close to you see it, and later on you look back and your like, "I said what?! I did what?!"...I'll tell anyone the most personal shit about myself and I have no fear of anything, at the time it feels amazing, but when you come down, pure regret...It's some crazy shit!
 
bluehues, how the hell do you sleep when you have hypomania? I took 4mg of etizolam and 50mg of seroquel, slept 2.5 hours and feel ready to take on the world. I don't have disinhibition with hypomania, though with mania that is a huge issue.

hypomania is still in full gear for me, fuck i am so productive lately, making tons of money, even set myself up a small guitar studio. Oh yeah about being in the 'zone' i am a monster at video games for some reason now lol. When i play guitar as well, i just feel completely in the 'zone'
 
I don't sleep much when I'm like that, I may fall asleep at 5 and wake up at 7....some days I can sleep...you're better off with some sleep or you could go full-blown!
When I went to the psych-ward, they could not put me to sleep with any amount of benzos or seroquel...From what you are saying, you could be close to going manic! With hypomania, you can still sleep, but not as much....
 
well im getting 2-5 hours per night (plus some naps), i have zopiclone on hand too, maybe etiz zopiclone and seroquel will knock me out 8 hours. I just got a huge job offer so not the best time to be going manic.
 
BlueHues said:
Yeah, with real hypomania, there's no anxiety or self doubt, it's just pure energy and confidence....It's not without a price, but any agitation or fear or depression goes out the window, you feel like you're in the "zone", although you may be kinda losing it! Other people close to you see it, and later on you look back and your like, "I said what?! I did what?!"...I'll tell anyone the most personal shit about myself and I have no fear of anything, at the time it feels amazing, but when you come down, pure regret...It's some crazy shit!
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Hahah, I'm laughing because I totally relate to what you wrote here. I'm rarely aware of what I did after the fact; it's just kind of a hazy outline of the things I got done or the things on which I wasted so much time on during the episode ;)

While the hypo mania can be enjoyable in the moment, it's cumulative effects are devastating to body, mind and spirit. For instance, it's very difficult to work and live a stressful enough life when my sleeping schedule becomes thoroughly derailed. My eating habits swing wildly out of whack, as well. At times, there will be several days where my caloric and nutritional intake is far below what it ought to be.

When all is said and done, IMO the hypomania is maladaptive; in my life, it is a very bad thing. I do hope those of you who purport to enjoy the state of mind hypomania delivers do not succumb to the deleterious effects that lifestyle necessarily imposes on a person!

Kindest regards,

~ Vaya
 
yeah sleep is a huge issue but with serouqel 50mg, 7.5mg zopiclone and 4mg etizolam i got 6 hours last night and feel amazing. Eating isnt an issue for me, huge apetite, as well as a huge sexual apetite lol.
 
Hey again,

I noticed you we're still struggling with sleep - as long as you're getting some it should be fine. But I thought I should warm you that, from experience, psychotic symptoms can very easily manifest themselves with the help of sleep deprivation - turning hypomania into mania very quickly. Once you've crossed that line, there's not much turning back. So long as you're getting some sleep you should be fine, but don't ever feel that "I can skip a night, I have loads of energy" or something similar - I made that mistake and ended up in the psychiatric ward. Sleep every night, even if you don't feel like you want to - your mind will thank you for the rest. :)

Be safe!
 
indeed thanks for the advice. i figured eating/sleeping were essential to maintaining hypomania. im really trying to eat and get as much sleep as possible.
 
I bet the opiate w/d is a culprit in intensifying/exacerbating the anxiety.

Would tapering off the benzos and switching to a sleep medication be an option? Like, taking trazadone, or something w/ less habit-forming. I only read the OP, but it sound like this is what people mean when they state the unsustainable nature of long term benzo treatment.

Anyway, you've probably already considered switching over, or maybe already tried it even. I hope there is a non-narcotic solution for you man. Good luck.
 
not really an option i want as i have hypomania. My benzo use is sustainable, ive calculated the costs, accurately dose without abuse and live an extremely functional life.

i may switch over to kratom, if you understood my anxiety and how bad it is, youd prescribe me benzos for life lol. thanks for the post and happy holidays.
 
King-Anubis said:
Hey again,

I noticed you we're still struggling with sleep - as long as you're getting some it should be fine. But I thought I should warm you that, from experience, psychotic symptoms can very easily manifest themselves with the help of sleep deprivation - turning hypomania into mania very quickly. Once you've crossed that line, there's not much turning back. So long as you're getting some sleep you should be fine, but don't ever feel that "I can skip a night, I have loads of energy" or something similar - I made that mistake and ended up in the psychiatric ward. Sleep every night, even if you don't feel like you want to - your mind will thank you for the rest. :)

Be safe!
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This is true! There's a lot you can do to "hover in the sweetspot" without going to far into crazy land! It sounds like you may be bipolar and the bemzos keep it at bay for awhile, but when they wear off, you're goin a little manic! I believe some of it could just be rebound effect from the benzos....

The two BIG manic episodes I had happened when I was coming off lots of opiates and other drugs......Eat, sleep, shower and maintain...best advice I could give you....I made horrible decisions while manic that I regretted later!
 
just an update: i've settled down now and get regular sleep and eat properly. The trick was to use hash oil all day long lol. No need for AP, seroquel or other dangerous meds. Still a bit hypomanic but more just happy and enjoying life.
 
yeah sleep is back on track (with seroquel and hash oil helping a lot). I eat normally too, looks like the hypomania has died down, not depressed now or anything, just level, which is good.
 
Cool man. Good to hear. I'm actually surprised you aren't depressed, since you've been flying so high. This is a good thing for sure.

Don't let yourself fall off track now; and speaking of which, what will you do, if/when you run out of hash oil?
 
Just had to jump in at BlueHues : Thinks nothing will get him to sleep... lucky they didn't phase you in the first place bud..,Then wake up 2 weeks later thinking what the fuck just happen.. that's "phaser"or some shit like that. Seroquel is requally administrated first! For mania patients to keep em"calm" im on 1500mg/ day and im batshit hyperactive aswell , sleeping fine though.

Welcome to the club RobotRipping, hope your feeling better :)
 
1500mg of seroquel/day or do you mean 150? lol cause that's insane. I take 25-50mg for sleep.

@dexter hash oil is just fun, doesn't really fix anything, i use kratom and etizolam (which i have a huge supply of) to keep me level and it works. i can always make more hash oil any time i want too though, as there is an endless supply of cannabis in Canada.
 
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