Slum Survivor
Bluelighter
I've been searching and searching for a long time for hard info on this subject... This is why i am forced to make a post here in ADD. the only thread i could find that was majorly on topic was an archived thread.
So anyways, I am currently taking about 1.5 mg of suboxone film daily, a small dose for sure. Ive had about a year and a half's worth of experience with bupe collectively, over the course of the last 2-3 years. Reason being i was addicted to pharm-opiates, which led to oxycodone addiction, and then once the OC's were changed i was forced to start dope.
I remained on dope for about a solid year after that. ive had alot of little "breaks" where i tried to get clean on my own with suboxone i could get on the street. I even tried to get clean on Suboxone a couple times while on the oxy still. After that solid year of being hooked on high potency dope, i turned to a Sub doctor for help. He put me on 12mg of Suboxone daily. i was on that for around 9 months. then once again i got hooked on pharm-opiates oral hydrocodone, and oral morphine. eventually i got hooked on IV'ing the 100mg watson ABG ms-contin. that led back to a dope binge after a while and thats why im back on sub.
i know thats alot to read but i felt like u need a little background to understand my problems and questions...
During my addiction to dope a couple years back i started to vomit very often... it was bad. It took me a lot of hell to figure out that CARROTS were what was hurting me. I cant even have anything that has a color agent derived from carrots such as BETA CAROTENE, and APOCAROTENAL. I cant eat any fast food that doesnt list ingredients and i have to read EVERY label on EVERY thing.
I used to worry that the coloring or even maybe the flavor of Suboxone could have some sort of carrot derived ingredients, because it was making me sick just like the carrot crap would. after the first month of my treatmeant with the sub doctor, he trusted me to put me on Subutex. I mentioned that the suboxone seemed to give me nausea and that if i didnt get enough sleep, especially, then i would vomit shortly after my dose. i even tried lowering my doseage w/o the doc knowing, it didnt change anything tho. When i was switched to the the Subutex, i seemed to have less of a problem, so i stopped worrying about it. Only thing was if i still didnt get much sleep it would make me vomit still... just not nearly as bad or easily.
Now im on the Sub films...and i keep getting nausea real bad, and sometimes vomit. The thing is tho... Suboxone doesnt have any beta carotene or anything in the ingredients. why the heck am i getting sick? My doc used to tell me from the begining that i should spit out the suboxone after about 30 mins or longer. He said it didnt matter if i swallowed the subutex or not. Ive noticed that the bupe wears off faster if i dont swallow the stuff. supposedly the BA of the bupe orally is crap tho... could an open ulcer absorb any of the bupe or naloxone?
Ive read some very interesting posts on here about potentiation with vitamin A... i obviously am allergic to a big source of Vitamin A. could that make the bupe react differently?
im so lost. there are so many factors. i used to even wonder if the opiates somehow caused my allergy to carrots. im a red head and have ate carrots all my life. they are in almost EVERYTHING, so how did i just develop this allergy? it wasnt until my opiate addiciton that i started gettting sick from the carrots.
I noticed in another thread that in other countries they have WHITE SUBOXONE PILLS. It was because people were allergic to the dye, i bet it was in the EU too, if u look up carrot allergy on wikipedia it mentions most who are allergic are of white euro-decent, typically blonde or red head with pale skin. So maybe i was on to something here??
Anyone experience this? or have any idea what the heck is going on with me?
So anyways, I am currently taking about 1.5 mg of suboxone film daily, a small dose for sure. Ive had about a year and a half's worth of experience with bupe collectively, over the course of the last 2-3 years. Reason being i was addicted to pharm-opiates, which led to oxycodone addiction, and then once the OC's were changed i was forced to start dope.
I remained on dope for about a solid year after that. ive had alot of little "breaks" where i tried to get clean on my own with suboxone i could get on the street. I even tried to get clean on Suboxone a couple times while on the oxy still. After that solid year of being hooked on high potency dope, i turned to a Sub doctor for help. He put me on 12mg of Suboxone daily. i was on that for around 9 months. then once again i got hooked on pharm-opiates oral hydrocodone, and oral morphine. eventually i got hooked on IV'ing the 100mg watson ABG ms-contin. that led back to a dope binge after a while and thats why im back on sub.
i know thats alot to read but i felt like u need a little background to understand my problems and questions...
During my addiction to dope a couple years back i started to vomit very often... it was bad. It took me a lot of hell to figure out that CARROTS were what was hurting me. I cant even have anything that has a color agent derived from carrots such as BETA CAROTENE, and APOCAROTENAL. I cant eat any fast food that doesnt list ingredients and i have to read EVERY label on EVERY thing.
I used to worry that the coloring or even maybe the flavor of Suboxone could have some sort of carrot derived ingredients, because it was making me sick just like the carrot crap would. after the first month of my treatmeant with the sub doctor, he trusted me to put me on Subutex. I mentioned that the suboxone seemed to give me nausea and that if i didnt get enough sleep, especially, then i would vomit shortly after my dose. i even tried lowering my doseage w/o the doc knowing, it didnt change anything tho. When i was switched to the the Subutex, i seemed to have less of a problem, so i stopped worrying about it. Only thing was if i still didnt get much sleep it would make me vomit still... just not nearly as bad or easily.
Now im on the Sub films...and i keep getting nausea real bad, and sometimes vomit. The thing is tho... Suboxone doesnt have any beta carotene or anything in the ingredients. why the heck am i getting sick? My doc used to tell me from the begining that i should spit out the suboxone after about 30 mins or longer. He said it didnt matter if i swallowed the subutex or not. Ive noticed that the bupe wears off faster if i dont swallow the stuff. supposedly the BA of the bupe orally is crap tho... could an open ulcer absorb any of the bupe or naloxone?
Ive read some very interesting posts on here about potentiation with vitamin A... i obviously am allergic to a big source of Vitamin A. could that make the bupe react differently?
im so lost. there are so many factors. i used to even wonder if the opiates somehow caused my allergy to carrots. im a red head and have ate carrots all my life. they are in almost EVERYTHING, so how did i just develop this allergy? it wasnt until my opiate addiciton that i started gettting sick from the carrots.
I noticed in another thread that in other countries they have WHITE SUBOXONE PILLS. It was because people were allergic to the dye, i bet it was in the EU too, if u look up carrot allergy on wikipedia it mentions most who are allergic are of white euro-decent, typically blonde or red head with pale skin. So maybe i was on to something here??
Anyone experience this? or have any idea what the heck is going on with me?
