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5-meo-dalt and ephylephenidate safe? Enjoyable?
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Hmmm well I would worry about EPH potentiating the stimulant effects of 5-MeO-DALT producing things like palpitations / tachycardia / high BP / anxiety and other adrenaline-like effects.
Why are you considering this? You want to make 5-MeO-DALT more euphoric? Or are these 2 compounds you happen to have?
Why are you considering this? You want to make 5-MeO-DALT more euphoric? Or are these 2 compounds you happen to have?
foolsgold
Bluelighter
not eph no but i tried it on 2 dpmp and it was a waste the stim over powered it . you may have better look but the stim psychosis overwhelmed any trip that the 5-meo-dalt would of produced
Sorry I don't understand
A bit of both to be honist but I had same conserns as you listedHmmm well I would worry about EPH potentiating the stimulant effects of 5-MeO-DALT producing things like palpitations / tachycardia / high BP / anxiety and other adrenaline-like effects.
Why are you considering this? You want to make 5-MeO-DALT more euphoric? Or are these 2 compounds you happen to have?
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The 2-DPMP (desoxypipradrol) he used as well as the EPH we are talking about here as part of your question... they are both DARI compounds meaning 'dopamine reuptake inhibitor', so they have similar action and should come fairly close even if the duration is very different.
It means that we should all take his information suggesting overstimulation, and take it seriously as something that is likely to happen with EPH as well. So better be careful, or even better skip it unless you have a good motivation for this combination - one that I don't (yet) see.
It was an easy call though: everything that I read about 5-MeO-DALT as well as the mere fact that it is a 5-MeO tryptamine makes one think that it is sensitive to causing overstimulation even on its own. Something like that does not tend to lend itself well to combining with even more stimulation. If the stimulation wasn't uncomfortable before, the combination should push it there.
Not saying that it is dangerous, but I personally would not be interested. If you are insistent on this even after checking with yourself to just be patient on some other compounds or better drugs to achieve what you are interested in... start off with the drug you want to enhance with the other one, and wait for it to plateau. Seems to me like this would be the 5-MeO-DALT.
Then carefully titrate the EPH. You may not want to snort it because that for sure will bring out overstimulating qualities. Unfortunately other RoAs are less immediate, so be patient working your way up. It's my bet that you will not have to use much at all to realize that this combination is not ideal.
Of course this is conjecture, speculation and prejudice otherwise I would not have mentioned trying it.
It means that we should all take his information suggesting overstimulation, and take it seriously as something that is likely to happen with EPH as well. So better be careful, or even better skip it unless you have a good motivation for this combination - one that I don't (yet) see.
It was an easy call though: everything that I read about 5-MeO-DALT as well as the mere fact that it is a 5-MeO tryptamine makes one think that it is sensitive to causing overstimulation even on its own. Something like that does not tend to lend itself well to combining with even more stimulation. If the stimulation wasn't uncomfortable before, the combination should push it there.
Not saying that it is dangerous, but I personally would not be interested. If you are insistent on this even after checking with yourself to just be patient on some other compounds or better drugs to achieve what you are interested in... start off with the drug you want to enhance with the other one, and wait for it to plateau. Seems to me like this would be the 5-MeO-DALT.
Then carefully titrate the EPH. You may not want to snort it because that for sure will bring out overstimulating qualities. Unfortunately other RoAs are less immediate, so be patient working your way up. It's my bet that you will not have to use much at all to realize that this combination is not ideal.
Of course this is conjecture, speculation and prejudice otherwise I would not have mentioned trying it.
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25I_am_so_wonderfu
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I've used 5-MeO-DALT while on Methylphenidate with no adverse reactions. It increased the euphoria to a whole nother level, much more than the sum of its parts.
Yes 25I, but you're a troll so who cares? Thus if you're serious, unfortunately you sound like a boy who cried 'wolf!'.
I bet he would be quite amused if you would follow his lead and report back that it was uncomfortable.
Yes gym, you are right that actual experience reports are valuable even if it should not be taken as more than the anecdotal evidence it is (so maintain apprehension).
I bet he would be quite amused if you would follow his lead and report back that it was uncomfortable.
Yes gym, you are right that actual experience reports are valuable even if it should not be taken as more than the anecdotal evidence it is (so maintain apprehension).
25I_am_so_wonderfu
Bluelighter
whatever. I like how anyone who doesn't conform to the majority opinion is a "troll". By that logic, we might as well say these are evil, evil drugs, stay away and always say no just because thats what the majority of society believes
I already said that you now seem like 'the boy who cried wolf': your posts in the past discredit you at your own fault. Everyone including you yourself is welcome to check out your post history, although I already unapproved most of it. I call troll because my belief is that nobody is being that purposefully idiotic genuinely. And if you are, it still destroys your credibility.
Sorry if that is offensive to you but I call it like I see it and the flow of this forum is my concern and duty.
Don't bother responding to me - we should not derail this thread any more. So we're done here.
You can respond to any other thing, but if you come out of nowhere to counterpoint there is a risk of formal unapproval.
Sorry if that is offensive to you but I call it like I see it and the flow of this forum is my concern and duty.
Don't bother responding to me - we should not derail this thread any more. So we're done here.
You can respond to any other thing, but if you come out of nowhere to counterpoint there is a risk of formal unapproval.
justinsayno
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.....i keep wondering if 5-meo-dalt and n-e-k would make a good combo...
to give the n-e-k a more visual edge, maybe combined with a bit of sensory deprivation.
however, n-e-k also makes my heart race so probably a bed idea for all the same reasons
gymstud : i think i noticed in the big and dandy 5-meo-dalt thread that you went from not liking this chem to doing it regular [ forgive me if im confusing you with someone else ] what was your ROA and dose ?
to give the n-e-k a more visual edge, maybe combined with a bit of sensory deprivation.
however, n-e-k also makes my heart race so probably a bed idea for all the same reasons
gymstud : i think i noticed in the big and dandy 5-meo-dalt thread that you went from not liking this chem to doing it regular [ forgive me if im confusing you with someone else ] what was your ROA and dose ?