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the sex trade...your opinions

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i still think its emotionally damaging behaviour to sell yourself even if the danger was reduced

I absolutely agree. It's a way to make money, but it can really mess with your head. This is why so many girls who do it have major problems with drugs.
 
I absolutely agree. It's a way to make money, but it can really mess with your head. This is why so many girls who do it have major problems with drugs.

well you need something to drown out the voice in your head saying "i'm better than this"
 
As a man, I'd have to disagree with that.

You have never been in one ever? Maybe it is just Australia but every guy I know has at least been in one. Hell there have been plenty of times none have appealed to me & I have hung out at the bar waiting for my mates playing pool; & drinking beer.

One thing that was always a laugh is a certain mate who was rather young looking. For years we would claim he was a virgin & as good mates were shouting him his "first" so can you take care of him ;). The ladies would go nuts when they found they had a cherry & would fight to get it.
 
I know people who've had friends with benefits for months and I can assure you they're not in a romantic relationship at all.

Someone will end up in pain unless there are multiple partners involved on either side in my opinion.

I personally cannot maintain a friendship with benefits. Love hits me faster and harder than any other addiction.
 
for me FWB always fizzles out as its impossible to sustain attraction unless there is depth below

maybe i'm attracted to the novel
 
no that doesn't come off as judgmental at all, you know you respect these people, but if *SOME* day they want to turn their lives around and live to their full potential, man what a crock of shit lol.

It's like someone seeing me nodding out all of the places, drooling on myself in euphoric bliss, comes up to me and is like, 'don't you want more for yourself, to realize your full potential?' In that situation i would likely nod back out and forget about you, just like the prostitute.

Euphoric bliss induced by drugs. Have you ever experienced the same thing just by breathing? No probably not, so your opinion is while being worthwhile, skewed - seriously that's not even a good analogy - you're experiencing "bliss" there. A prostitute is thinking about money, drugs, or food, or her kids food, or MAYBE the next orgasm if she's a nymphoMANIAC. Each person is under duress.

How is it a crock of shit? I want people to do well for themselves, in a way that makes them feel truly blissful - prostitution is a stepping stone, and i'd like to make it as short as possible for as many whores that I can meet.
 
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I've had an FWB in the past. It was not a big deal. We each knew our place. I think he has a girlfriend now, and I'm wired to have an exclusive partner. I don't think I could have ever seriously contemplated having him as my boyfriend. He's an awesome, attractive guy with major smarts. His future intended will be a lucky lady.

Last time: about 36 hours ago, with recycled ex. Oh, ex, why are you so recyclable?! I have some crap to work out in my mind and then we can entertain the notion, not that either of us will. I'm too flippant and he's too stressed. Some people fall in love. We fall into patterns. :(
 
want people to do well for themselves, in a way that makes them feel truly blissful - prostitution is a stepping stone, and i'd like to make it as short as possible for as many whores that I can meet.

Grow up.

I've never traded sex for money. I find this to be an insulting attitude and, yes, a crock of shit. I believe you're falling into a savior complex. You rescue these women from this hellish life you believe they live, and then you call them whores.

Of course someone who commodifies sex out of desperation will act in a desperate manner. Of course there will always be someone who will exploit that. Don't think you're doing anybody any favors through calling them a 'whore' and don't give yourself false hope. She's probably just waiting for her next con job, because she's been facing that for longer, harder, and deeper.
 
You're in the wrong thread, for a start...

And as to your opinion on my "saviour complex" - save it, I've already analyzed that one, aand got past it.

I call them a whore because that is what a prostitute is - a whore. Why must you make the term out to be insulting?

A whore does not have to be a woman - there are male whores too.

don't give yourself false hope"??! Now I know you're either making assumptions, or just babbling, coz I have no real clue what you're commenting on here.

I don't rescue ANYONE, I merely help people as much as I can to decrease their burden in life, if they have one, they're the ones who rescue themselves.

We all meet people for a reason in our day to day life, and as our cosmic awareness increases, we start to see patterns forming, and start to realize why we met certain people - to help/teach each other something.

I don't go up to a street walker, hand her a cup of mulled wine, and ask her how business is going, and whether she's considered doing something else - that's costing her money, andd is going to get her nowhere, but annoyed with me.

Maybe I "should", but A) I don't see many whores around these parts, and I'm not going out of my way to do that, as B) I do my bit for society every day as it is and my energy levels are not amazingly high at the moment, and C) I haven't figured out how I would word it that would make them listen while on the jobb - I'd porbably have to pay them, which would be fine by me, except I cannot be spending money on whores right now, tight budget and all...

...BUT if someone I know ( like in the past) admits to me that they are considering it, or are actually doing it, then I shall do as I stated above - lend a shoulder to cry on, an ear to bend, and offer them suggestions or prompts, techniques they can use to get what they want out of life(basic NLP or mantras or simple positive affirmations, youtube links, pictures on their facebook, ask them whaat they wanted to be when they were a child (schiller - "keep true to the dreams of they youth") or mandalas to use etc) at appropriately spaced times.

I have accepted my role in society as healer of people's minds, bodies and souls, and I will become more efficient at it the closer I get to perfection myself, so I couldn't care less if you or anyone else call me a bible-basher, saviour/messsiah complex victim, or jesus freak - I am doing a service to my fellow brothers and sisters, friends, family and lovers, it's a heavy burden sometimes, but mostly I just know that I'm doing what I was put in the universe at this time to do, and smile and feel no weight on my shoulders, but I'm a relatively sensitive person, and therefore people's negative energies drain me.

Maybe I don't tone it right, and could say it with more tact to not come off as rude in my bluntness, but given the definitions of "insulting", "rude", and "manners" in the dictionary, I don't think that's going to be easy to get the truth across at all, as these words are words of bondage, putting manners up as roadblocks to pointing things out to your fellow human being, that might be hard to accept or even hurtful, because most of the time, they ring true, deep down they know it.

Jealous?
I've had an FWB in the past. It was not a big deal. We each knew our place. I think he has a girlfriend now, and I'm wired to have an exclusive partner. I don't think I could have ever seriously contemplated having him as my boyfriend. He's an awesome, attractive guy with major smarts. His future intended will be a lucky lady.

Last time: about 36 hours ago, with recycled ex. Oh, ex, why are you so recyclable?! I have some crap to work out in my mind and then we can entertain the notion, not that either of us will. I'm too flippant and he's too stressed. Some people fall in love. We fall into patterns. :(
 
It's International End Violence Against Sex Workers Day!

Not really going to touch what B1tO'RoughJack is espousing. I know sex workers who are neither desperate nor "emotional masochists". Many people with straight jobs never really live in the moment and are mainly concerned about food, money, etc. Anyhow, rehashing the damaged stereotype does little to really empower the people involved.
 
Why is it empowering to be in control of selling your body?

THat's just brainwashed thinking. What's empowering is to have seen an opportunity, know that you can do it, and then find another way of supporting yourself, that doesn't cost your mind and body anywhere near as much.
 
This thread is getting out of hand. I'm closing it.

Add: I'm sure I'm going to get some PMs regarding why I closed it. It was becoming an immature debate with a lot of personal attacks and insults. The mods were having to edit and remove many posts that crossed the line. Maybe there will be another thread, similar to this, in the future where there can be a more mature discussion. But not right now, at least not in this thread.
 
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