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Is this the truth? (Question about extreme visuals)

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YEAhp

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Well this question may seem funny to some of you but its always boggled my mind.

I have slight experience with Psychedelic drugs but nothing to crazy

2C-I: Tried it twice first time was awsome felt amazing and had awesome visuals (Walls Morphing, Shifting, Trails) Second time same dose had no visuals just rushing thoughts

bk-MDMA: Was hooked on this for like 3months doing large amounts 4 days a week and I absolutly loved the feeling. Couple times got slight visuals from large dosages and probably lack of sleep.

But here is my question. Ive heard from friends and online about people doing stronger pshychedelics and getting crazy visuals. Like on friends brother said he did ketamine i believe and he said he was at walmart and got back out to the parking lot and every single car looked like his. ANother friend told me when on DMT once he "left" his body and could walk around himself looking at himself from all angles. (also online hering things of crazy visuals like seeing monsters unicorns and other crazy shit)

Are those type of visuals possible or are they just fibbs. And if they are possible what kind of drugs produce them. To me it just seems unreal. Im not really sure if I'd ever try anything like this Im just curious. Also if you have had crazy experiences like this id like to here some of your crazy visuals and what you took to get em.

Also from your experience or from data what is said to be the most Visual producing drug.

Thanks!
 
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some people do, some people don't. i've taken a fair number of different psychedelics and i have to do something fairly extreme like candyflipping or eating an eighth ounce of shrooms at once to get really noticeable CEVs, and i have never really gotten OEVs at all outside of very minimal things e.g. lights appearing to be brighter or occasional "spots" even given these heroic measures... only breaking thru on salvia ever gave me even a hint of OEVs. i don't think they're necessarily lying, it's just that everyone has a different brain and different body chemistry. my girlfriend reports WAY more CEV and OEV activity per substance than i do.
 
Yeah, it's possible, but you need to take a lot and even when you do, it's kind of random what kind of visuals you get. Depends on mood, location, and expectations - I find I get more intense visuals when I'm not expecting them, while if I go in with high expectations things will stay kind of mellow.
 
Aye, folks have different reactions, and bullshitters love talking about drugs, but some crazy beautiful things can be seen by most with the right drug at the right dose in the right (or very wrong) situation.
My favorite OEV was on a slice of very potent shrooms when my apartment turned into a living tree of fine tiny 3D pixles of colored light, that responded and danced with my touch and movements. I normally don't get strong CEVs
, when I trip very, very hard with my eyes closed the sensations, thoughts, and delusions are so much more powerful than the patterns and simple landscapes I tend to see.
Good visual drugs: Shrooms, LSD, 2C-E, 25C (for me at least, and not a big mind fucker), DOC (and any of these combined with DXM or MXE...holy shit). Been meaning to go about getting some DMT, that sounds like where it is at, but never a good time for me to go about extracting any, so I have not.
 
Possible? Oh yeah!
Some good ones are LSD, DMT, Psylocybin(mushrooms), 2C-E, Bromo-DragonFLY just to name a few from experience.
The first time took mushrooms my dosage was an eighth and i remember looking at the hills and seeing giant cave-drawing like figures and the kokopelli moving all around through the dry grass.
When i tried Bromo-D FLY i remeber looking at the clouds on the come and every single cloud looked the same.
The mind is a fun game.
 
thanks for the replys all. keep em coming! yes the mind is a fun game but a dangerous one aswell. I didnt know shrooms had those kind of effects. I have multipul friends tht have done shrooms multipul times but none of them have said anything about visuals just like slight ones like trails, shifting, etc. my favorite visuals were the time on 2C-I with the walls morphing and breathing and cracks growing then shrinking. Another time was on bk-MDMA when I took a bunch and watched a "swirl" video on youtube that u stare at the center then look away. when i looked away the moon looked like it got super close and then far repeated. I feel those videos on youtube really intesify my visuals only for like 30seconds thou. still cool you all should give it a shot!
 
I have had major visuals from decently high doses of LSD, Mushrooms, 2C-P, 2C-E and random E pills. I have tried a number of other psychedelics but I have never seen actual creatures in my visuals on anything except for on the random e pills, on everything else I had the typical very colourful geometric patterns, fractals, swirling objects, distortion of size/shape of everything in view with my eyes open with the visuals obviously being more intense with eyes closed.

When I was on the supposed E pills I had beings appearing out of nowhere in the dark all around me, there were no fractals anywhere and I could feel them as I passed through them. I don't doubt that it is possible to see things such as unicorns and cartoon characters, It's just not something that I have experienced. Oh I just remembered that when I did MDMA and K together at a show I did experience hallucinate that all the woman in the crowd kept turning into completely different people right before my eyes.
 
if you like trippy colorful games/interactive sites you'll love this. The strobe one is my favorite while tripping.
http://neave.com/

One thing I would like to mention is that smoking pot seems to have a very dramatic effect on my trip. Always for the better, I have noticed that visuals usually get more intense as well as the body high. Im guessing this has to with the fact that pot is somewhat psychedelic on its own.
 
I've had some pretty crazy stuff happen to me while on Acid and DMT. I did 10 hits of acid (I don't recommend it) and then smoke DMT at about 6 hours in, at one point i seen myself sitting in a chair as in a third perspective and it almost like it was my soul flying around then flew into me. I came to with a Hookah in my hand then just got up and started walking around aimlessly, almost like a zombie. I had no idea what I was doing. Walked into someones camp and just about walked intointo their fire.

The EMT's were cool though, gave me gatorade and some cookies. After I came to I couldn't believe what had happened.
 
Quite possible. Just don't let your significant other morph into a monster. LSD, DMT, and mushrooms can all produce intense visuals and mental confusion. When you're fucked up enough on these psychedelics, it's not really visuals anymore. It's your brain creating an elaborate fantasy within itself. Of course that's with high doses and low tolerance. When you come out of this state it's like it was all a dream and you were just in some weird trance.

Also for me, it seems like 2c-I and related drugs produce "pretty" visuals, but they don't fully envelope your mind like tryptamines and LSD do.
 
4-aco-dmt gave me the best visuals: I have not seen some crazy/out of the world hallucinations, like seeing stuff that doesn't exist: no dragons, no pink unicorns.
But it always shows me some kind of distortion that are not just distorsion: those are too complicated and "well done"! It always amaze me and makes me thing that this substance is really something!
there was this one time when I was in the nature, and there was this lone tree surrounded by bushes and other trees. Well, all the bushes around cycled in all the color of the rainbow, steadily and precisely, while this one tree at the center of them remained of his true color, like if it was stronger than the others! I tought it was something like position related: being the tree at the center of my visual, I tought that maybe the color changing was something happening at my peripherical vision, so I moved and shifted my point of view: nothing. The illusion remained, and it was awesome. Cherishing, I looked up, and multiple actual rainbow spanned from tree to tree. It felt so real, so stable! It was truly amazed.

TL;DR Try 15-25mg of 4-aco-dmt. You want regret it, visual or not :D
 
bk-MDMA... yuck!

4AcoDMT & 2CE are some nice RC's to look into.

Try looking into the 2C-Family they are all slightly different. 2CB being my personal favorite.
 
Yeah man on LSD, just after hitting some good weed, when the lights were off all the clothes on the floor suddenly turned into zombie like creatures walking around and all i could do was stare in amazement as it was my first trip on acid. Also, on the same trip everytime i would look at my friends faces they would continuously morph into different things like mice heads, demon looking things and just all kinds of mind bending madness; truly amazing.

The most intense experience ive ever had was my first and only salvia trip. In about 3 seconds from exhaling the smoke i instantly had the infamous "break through experience" which absolutley terrified me as i had no idea what i was getting into. The first visuals and remembrance of reality was the table i was sitting at just fell into a puddle of liquid and then there was a little hole in the middle of my field of vision and within a second or two the whole world rapidly swirled into it and i was inside my head for a good 15 minutes walking around with what i remember to be a hell-like place of red mountains and darkness with what i can only describe as "god" being the only entity with me, and thats all i can remember while inside my head. The worst part was coming back to reality because i didnt even know i took any drugs or what reality was or that i ever was born or existed etc. It was so bizzare once i finally realized i was "me" and that i took something. For the next 45 minutes i had incredibly strong OEVs, stronger than my LSD and all other psychedelic trips ever, which such a long salvia experience is almost unheard of.

I love psychedelics more than anything and am not scared of any other drugs but 6 years later and 100+ trips i still am too scared to give salvia another go, even though i have much more experience with them, but salvia is a dissociative and completely bizarre and i dont think anything can prepare me for a trip like that again, but maybe one day ill have another go. If you are hellbent on having unbelievable visuals then try DMT like others said or a stronger dose of the 2C-I or a nice dose of 2C-B as those wont bend your mind so much that you wont even care about the visuals like others will; well excluding DMT, that shit will take you to other dimensions and shit.

Edit: forgot to add that DOB and weed gave me some overwhelming visuals that lasted 30 HOURS!!
 
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It is definitely possible to have overwhelming visuals. I've been saying this a lot today, but it is subjective and dose/chemical dependent.
 
YEAhp, have you looked at the most visual psychedelic thread?

Also, proclivity to experience OEVs/CEVs varies from person to person.

got back out to the parking lot and every single car looked like his
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I think the way people verbally express their experiences make them sound more visual than they really are. Like for this I'd think he didn't mean they literally looked like his, but that he was unable to link the concept of car-ownership with recognition of his particular vehicle's attributes. It's matter of altered interpretation of visual data rather than alteration of the visual data itself. (Though on some high dose cocktails of nmda antagonists and other things I've experienced some profound visual morphing on the level of what was described above, though I was quite stuck in my chair due to ataxia/general highness)
 
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YEAhp said:
Well this question may seem funny to some of you but its always boggled my mind.

I have slight experience with Psychedelic drugs but nothing to crazy

2C-I: Tried it twice first time was awsome felt amazing and had awesome visuals (Walls Morphing, Shifting, Trails) Second time same dose had no visuals just rushing thoughts

bk-MDMA: Was hooked on this for like 3months doing large amounts 4 days a week and I absolutly loved the feeling. Couple times got slight visuals from large dosages and probably lack of sleep.

But here is my question. Ive heard from friends and online about people doing stronger pshychedelics and getting crazy visuals. Like on friends brother said he did ketamine i believe and he said he was at walmart and got back out to the parking lot and every single car looked like his. ANother friend told me when on DMT once he "left" his body and could walk around himself looking at himself from all angles. (also online hering things of crazy visuals like seeing monsters unicorns and other crazy shit)

Are those type of visuals possible or are they just fibbs. And if they are possible what kind of drugs produce them. To me it just seems unreal. Im not really sure if I'd ever try anything like this Im just curious. Also if you have had crazy experiences like this id like to here some of your crazy visuals and what you took to get em.

Also from your experience or from data what is said to be the most Visual producing drug.

Thanks!
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Ketamine is child's play. Only lasts so long. Same with DMT. (The businessman's psychedelic....)
But, dissociatives are the way to go if you want real life/death 'visuals'. And, there's better stuff out there than K.
The real deal, A meeting with God. I suggest training your mind first though. Meditation, Shakti, Kundalini...esp.

You can 'push' ...in many different directions. Expect addiction and possible death....
...once you accept that, the world is yours. Cheers! :)
I've seen other people there, and they remember.....

P.s. Educate yourself, Erowid is your friend.
So is Narnegin. it takes a while, as well, don't expect spectacular results the first time.
And, there' a 50 trip limit, remember that...
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