IV shots - How many is too much?

[nycblueskie]

So I'm finally able to IV all by myself, thanks to some posters on here.

Well my Q is how many shots are too many ?
By too many meaning I don't want them to start showing and become obvious....
I've done 3 shots today (5bags ecg) so far and plan on doing 2 more...all on the same arm
The other arm I missed a few days ago and the spot still kinda hurts so I'm scared to shoot my left arm

Thanks guys

 

[Tommyboy]

Try to find like 5 spots to rotate. I've got the main pipeline down one bicep, the other arm has the two smaller ones that split off from eachother, then there is any place along those veins between the elbow and the hand, and then there is the vein just past your wrist. Some people have that nice one on the outside of their arms, but that only shows when I've been working out a lot.

I wouldn't be doing that many shots in a day man. They just make you tired after the first high. The rest is just jacking up your tolerance and making you more dependent. Even the hardcore dope fiends I know get really high off their 5-6 bag shot, and then are usually good for the day, or will do 1-2 more to stay well. People that I know that deal and have more access to it shoot a bundle a day, but that's more because they have the freedom to waste that much.

 

[nycblueskie]

Well if u been following my posts, I'm a amateur with IV. Even tho the three shots were 5 bags I wasted a lot. The cotton ball was too big and I barely got any H filled in the needle- I probably wasted at least half on the first two shots I hardly felt anything at all. My friend told me what I did wrong, he's the one that explained why I barely felt anything. So the third shot I used only three bags incase I messed it up again, but I did it perfect!!! That's y I wanna do another shot but I don't want to do it if any marks are gonna show.

First shot 1 pm second 230 pm third shot 2 and half hours ago

 

[OmarLittle]

I concur with Tommyboy, that first shot of the day is always the best and anything on top of that is mediocre at best. When I was using all the time for months I would shoot up 3 times a day no matter what, but maybe an extra if I could.

Rotating spots is critical though and is tooo easy not to do. Think of all the surface area along a vein.

Just be sure you don't reuse needles, and use some neosporin to have the dots heal faster.

 

[Tommyboy]

Well if u been following my posts, I'm a amateur with IV. Even tho the three shots were 5 bags I wasted a lot. The cotton ball was too big and I barely got any H filled in the needle- I probably wasted at least half on the first two shots I hardly felt anything at all. My friend told me what I did wrong, he's the one that explained why I barely felt anything. So the third shot I used only three bags incase I messed it up again, but I did it perfect!!! That's y I wanna do another shot but I don't want to do it if any marks are gonna show.

First shot 1 pm second 230 pm third shot 2 and half hours ago

If you are worried about wasting heroin then I suggest using micron filters. They only retain 2.8% of heroin compared to 21% retained by cotton filters. That's not to mention that they also remove about 6% more of the cuts compared to cotton (source).

I don't know anyone that shoots up as soon as 1.5 hours after their first shot. I know that you claim to get very good quality heroin but something is off if you are re-dosing that quickly, and it's not just a matter of using too big of a cotton filter.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

So I'm finally able to IV all by myself, thanks to some posters on here.

Was it mr. scagnattie's description that did it for ya? Or mine? Both? :D

You can easily do too many depending on what your veins are like. If they are easy to find like mine, you could easily inject twice-three times per day and not have too many problems - although bruising and staining of the skin can happen.

I personally would advise you not go above 2 shots per day. The last time I shot heroin, I had a 12 hour duration and it totally wrecked me. I would never want to use it again though.

You also have new-ish veins and you need to keep them in good condition.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I would routinely inject 5-6 times a day... my veins weren't very happy about it but.. hey, such is the nature of addiction.. It sounds like to me that you need to focus on making the shots you do take more efficient. You mentioned that the last one you did was a success. Focus on pinpointing what you did that made that one work so much better than the others and try to recreate it. I know it's hard but.. you just started.. try and go slow. If you really don't need to take another shot.. don't. As you become better at it and become more efficient, you wont need to re-dose so fast.

Was it mr. scagnattie's description that did it for ya? Or mine? Both? :D

I think it was our combined awesomeness.

 

[nycblueskie]

I would routinely inject 5-6 times a day... my veins weren't very happy about it but.. hey, such is the nature of addiction.. It sounds like to me that you need to focus on making the shots you do take more efficient. You mentioned that the last one you did was a success. Focus on pinpointing what you did that made that one work so much better than the others and try to recreate it. I know it's hard but.. you just started.. try and go slow. If you really don't need to take another shot.. don't. As you become better at it and become more efficient, you wont need to re-dose so fast.







I think it was our combined awesomeness.

LOL your right thanks for your help on that thread guys I really appreciate it
My veins aren't very happy with me either so I didn't IV today, an yesterday I did maybe 2 shots all day.

I know I should focus on getting the shots done right, I'm improving with every shot but still not 100% yet. And with my habit if I'm not satisfied with a shot its like I'm ready to load up again ASAP with the next shot...

But yea you guys have been helpful and I did two more shot (one performed by a friend) on Friday night after I posted. It was very close to a shot I had done earlier in the day, the same vein, but not the exact same location it was a tiny bit further up my arm.

Luckily for me you can't tell that I've been shooting. IV gives a great rush but I feel like railing lasts longer plus I love the taste.
How do you guys feel about this? (Sorry I know I'm going off-topic)



NYC stand up!!! (Or nod off)!!!

 

[rhun]

Yeah, I agree with what has been said. When I first started IVing I would dilute the dope so I could do more shots in case I messed up and wasted one of them.
It sounded like a good idea initially, but it's not. You are more at risk for tracks and messing up your veins and you don't get as high.

I usually use a dime size piece of cotton first. After filtering through it, I'll squeeze that one out into whatever I'm using to hold the solution and use a tiny piece of cotton to filter any leftovers.
But if you can order filters online that is way safer and will waste the least amount of dope. I would also order a bunch of syringes at the same time so you never have to re use a needle, not even once.

PM me if you ever have questions, I was new to IVing fairly recently despite years of opiate use and really owe my health to the BLers on here, mods especially.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

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Luckily for me you can't tell that I've been shooting. IV gives a great rush but I feel like railing lasts longer plus I love the taste.
How do you guys feel about this? (Sorry I know I'm going off-topic)

I've never been a fan of the taste.. even when I was snorting it.. which was a very long time ago and only for about 3 months before I made the switch. Once I got the feeling I did from IV'ing dope.. there was no going back for me. The added length of the high from sniffing is irrelevant to me personally.. It doesn't outweigh the rush from IV and I'd take that any day of the week next to a slightly longer duration. If I'm not high anymore.. I'll just shoot more dope.

Note: These are my personal beliefs regarding my own drug use and mine alone. I would never condone this or recommend it to anybody else. But, he asked what we personally thought.

 

[rhun]

^ The one time I venture off BL I see this.
I happen to think this is a great HR thread.

Back on topic, the taste of H is nasty. I'm from CA though and tar is nasty.

 

[tentram]

Try to find like 5 spots to rotate. I've got the main pipeline down one bicep, the other arm has the two smaller ones that split off from eachother, then there is any place along those veins between the elbow and the hand, and then there is the vein just past your wrist. Some people have that nice one on the outside of their arms, but that only shows when I've been working out a lot.

bingo, they're all the spots i rotate between. if it's really necessary i use the main vein down the middle of the fist, where they've plugged me up in hospital before or as a last and risky last resort between the thumb and pointer. i try to stick to the bicep, crook and forearm areas for fear of hitting an artery among the limbs.

i'd try keeping a limit on the shots to 2, 3 at the most throughout the day/night. you'll most likely start developing a fetish for the needle itself if you're jabbing yourself 5 times a day for an extended period of time.

 

[deximate]

the stupidest shot I ever attempted was 8 bags aimed like the cruise missile of dope into my femoral... gotta say, the rush was pretty fucking amazing. anyway. the thing with IVing - especially if you have inherently crummy vasculature - is that sooner or later, you skip the alcohol swab or don't wash your hands in your haste to get that shit in your body or you shoot up in a sketchy public bathroom or you re-use the same nasty needle 20 times... and then you get to experience the excruciating pain of cellulitis/venous abscesses. The pain is literally beyond description (and the tiny ass doses of opiates the doctors are giving you aren't doing a damn thing due to your tolerance) and - at least for me - landed me in an operating room, having giant holes carved in my arms. More than once. (I know - - My name is X, and I'm the world's most retarded junkie. But you - or at least I, and other people I've known over the years - just stop caring about anything that's not heroin after a while.)

So, my advice: suck it up and stick that shit up your ass. It might be humiliating, but the eventual alternative is, at best, enough to make you want to off yourself and, at worst, an opportunity for your surgeon to try out his shiny new amputating saw. Can't even plug the stuff if you don't have arms.

 

[tentram]

haha, they're having a go at us BLers over at opiophile about this thread. it's in the heroin sub-forum for anyone interested.

I'm loathe to be posting a link to this moronic shit, but it has to be seen.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/6...ny-is-too-much

These idiots on bluelight are actually congratulating themselves and bragging about how cool they are for convincing an uncertain newbie into becoming a new IV heroin user. Like it's something to be proud of turning someone on to. I just found out someone that I taught how to shoot up and turned onto slamming drugs died 2 years ago (and I didn't even know until recently). Pretty fucked up. What do you guys think?

think they've got their words a little twisted.

 

[BrokedownPalace]

The people on Bluelight are absolute tards when it comes to almost everything. Back before I used opis I hung out on the Dextroverse and a lot of people from Bluelight would always register and end up getting banned because the concept of harm reduction just eluded them.

I'm really not sure why that forum attracts so many of those kind of people but whattaya gonna do..

Yeah.. I'm a member of opiophile. They don't really like bluelight at all. Opiophile is pretty decent, but most of the members are elitest, egotistical, jerk-offs.

I'll have to reply to their thread tomorrow if I'm in a better mood.

 

[tentram]

i've seen BL mocked there a few times over the years. i'm pissed they've blocked off "the scene" again to the public; used to love reading through there occasionally. not sure if i wanna drop money to become a member there just for that.

 

[BrokedownPalace]

I've been a member for a couple of years.. never had to pay any money, they just only open registration once every blue moon.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

haha, they're having a go at us BLers over at opiophile about this thread. it's in the heroin sub-forum for anyone interested.



think they've got their words a little twisted.

Yeah, that wasn't what was happening here at all. I've read through that forum a few times and I've never seen the same level of HR posts that BL has.

 

[Tommyboy]

haha, they're having a go at us BLers over at opiophile about this thread. it's in the heroin sub-forum for anyone interested.



think they've got their words a little twisted.

Yea and I got made fun of for saying that 21% of heroin can be left behind in filters. I didn't say it, I was quoting a scientific article that tested the amounts. He says his cottons are bone dry from squeezing them while still attached to the pin, like that's safe or anything.

Most people in that thread agreed we didn't do anything wrong. C.H. putting a smiley face after asking if it was his description that helped the OP learn to IV probably didn't help our image any though.

 

[tentram]

yeah i realised one of them was your remark they were dissing after re-reading this thread. they're the one's guilty of giving out some of the most retarded advice i've read within all different topics over there.

a fair few of their members have an elitist attitude, no different to some here, but they take it to another level. the're trying to change their whole image to Harm Reduction now i see. that never used to be the case, haha.

C.H. putting a smiley face after asking if it was his description that helped the OP learn to IV probably didn't help our image any though.

ha! :D