Stimulants Amphetamines and bypassing the intestinal tract in order to reduce damage to ulcers

[piku_playground]

I am looking for some advice on how best to take some Vyvanse that I have in order to bypass my stomach. I believe that I currently have stomach ulcers (lower stomach, not sure if that is peptic or gastric) as I have been having bad stomach pain for the past ~6 weeks. I think that I got them from taking Adderall on an empty stomach one day. I have been eating Tums in order to try and lower the acidity, but I realize that that won't help very much. I saw a doctor about a month ago who told me to keep taking Tums and a probiotic and come back to him in two weeks if the pain persisted. The pain seemed to have lowered until I took some Vyvanse again about a week ago.

So, I realize that I need to see a doctor again and to not take any more amphetemines. Believe me, I know this and I am very anxious that I'm going to seriously damage my stomach or incur stomach cancer in the future. But, this whole semester I have been dealing with terrible stress. I have one week of school and I seriously just need to get everything done and maintain good grades. I am a teaching assistant for a class that I have to offer a review for tomorrow and I cannot focus enough to organize a coherent lecture. I don't want to humiliate myself by showing that I don't know the material any better than the students whom I'm a TA for.

I was wondering if I either plugged or railed some 15 or 30mg Vyvanse if this would bypass my intestinal tract. It seems more likely that plugging them would. I basically need to avoid having the amph salts enter into my stomach and making my condition (what I think is stomach ulcers) worse. Would plugging or railing accomplish this? If not, is there a way I can swallow the pills and reduce any further damage? I told the doctor I saw that I think the possible ulcers were due to taking amphetamines, but he didn't say anything about it being a cause or not of my stomach pain. I'm not sure if he was embarrassed to discuss it or what. He seemed to think that the stomach pain could have resulted from not eating enough and poor sleep which could have resulted in a bacterial infection.

I've basically been relying on adderall or vyvanse this semester and I've been taking a couple every few weeks. I need to take vyvase 2-3 more times--until finals end. The semester is over in a week, and I just need to get through this shit. I am planning on seeing a doctor as well as my former psychiatrist once the winter break arrives. I also plan to not drink anything, as I have been binge drinking for the past few weeks.

I realize I sound like a fucking mess. Hopefully I'll be better soon (without stomach cancer).

Any suggestions on how to safely consume Vyvanse without fucking up my stomach any more would be appreciated.

 

[Tryptamino]

only way to feel effects from vyvanse is to take it orally. it is a prodrug.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Bypassing the stomach will give you an inactive prodrug.

You have to use Vyvanse orally for it to work.

 

[piku_playground]

Well, that's lovely. Is there a way I can minimize any damage to my stomach when taking it orally? Does anyone know why/how it could possibly be damaging my stomach? Google is not showing many results for individuals who take amphetamines and receive stomach ulcers.

 

[Tryptamino]

if you have stomach problems, amps in general will not help, so just dont take them, it's a healthy choice.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I've never heard of stomach issues coming from amphetamines.

If it is a serious problem, you should probably speak to your doctor about switching your medication...

 

[Tryptamino]

I've never heard of stomach issues coming from amphetamines.

If it is a serious problem, you should probably speak to your doctor about switching your medication...

i may be mistaking stomach problems for intestinal problems, which I only started getting from amps after years of using. but orally, amphetamines can damage your stomach from what I've heard. I personally know that eating more than 40mg of adderall or of street methamphetamine will both create equal stomach discomfort, which is why I don't dose high when using amps orally.

vyvanse, however, was fine even in extremely high doses (250+mgs) for my stomach, but that leaves me a bit unsure...

@OP, I agree with NT, you should switch meds, amphetamines aren't for everyone therapeutically, and if the only way you could take amphetamines is by alternative ROAs. then you might ass well just not use them at all, therapeutically, because taking them in a different way than directed can lead to lessened therapeutic effects, and more euphoric, recreational effects. and Im pretty sure dexmethylphenidate does not have as much stomach damage as amphetamines, and even though IME it's not that great of an ADD med, everyone I know who never abused it says that they prefer it to adderall and dexedrine, so that could be a possible alternative, but with methylphenidate, abusing it will pretty much just suck in every way possible: you'll get sorta high maybe the first times you try snorting or plugging it, but it's fiendy and tolerance builds fast and high, and the comedown is the most depressing crash there is. and then after all that, you'll be left without any working ADD meds. Also, if you do talkto your doc about methylphenidate, make sure you get dexmethylphenidate, racemic methylphenidate is dirty, awful and just plain bad, all round.

 

[piku_playground]

Tomorrow morning I'm going to take it regardless. It's silly but I have such mounting obligations that I see it as the only route of fulfilling them. The best I imagine that I can do is to eat a good breakfast, drink lots of water, eat a few tums, and then swallow the pill. Would diluting the pill in water help at all? I imagine that already happens once it hits the stomach.

 

[InvisibleEye]

Tomorrow morning I'm going to take it regardless. It's silly but I have such mounting obligations that I see it as the only route of fulfilling them.

Studying while working as a T.A. and/or R.A. is a recipe for disaster. I totally understand how you feel. I have never, ever experienced anything more stressful than grad school + research + teaching + trying to meet my most basic needs. It's as hellish as it gets. Honestly, without amphetamines, I don't think I would've been able to deal with it. Good luck piku!

 

[MollyFein74]

Vyvanse does NOT have to be taken orally to work... it can be taken anyway you prefer, HOWEVER, it will not have any effect on the onset of duration whether taken orally or IV. Vyvanse is amphetamine with lysiene attached, the lysiene is cleaved off in the bloodstream leaving you with one part amphetmine to one part lysiene. The whole reason for its creation was to ultimately create a long acting amphetamine with a low-to no abuse potential as regardless of how it is taken its onset will be slow and last a long time.

You could try sublingual and disolve it under your toungue.

 

[Renz Envy]

When the psychoactive counterpart is not responsible for a side effect, try looking at the other ingrediants. Many amphetamine pharmaceuticals contain fillers in which are labeled "Inactive" However many times these "inactive" ingredients influence the drug indirectly. I will look into vyvanse's ingredients as many times I feel a slight pang of stomach pain as the pill leaks into my stomach.

Vyvanse does NOT have to be taken orally to work... it can be taken anyway you prefer, HOWEVER, it will not have any effect on the onset of duration whether taken orally or IV. Vyvanse is amphetamine with lysiene attached, the lysiene is cleaved off in the bloodstream leaving you with one part amphetmine to one part lysiene. The whole reason for its creation was to ultimately create a long acting amphetamine with a low-to no abuse potential as regardless of how it is taken its onset will be slow and last a long time.

You could try sublingual and disolve it under your toungue.

This is the truth. I would go with oral or rectal for the best effects with vyvanse. It is manufactured to keep too much dextroamphetamine from hitting your reward center at once.

 

[Tryptamino]

This is the truth. I would go with oral or rectal for the best effects with vyvanse. It is manufactured to keep too much dextroamphetamine from hitting your reward center at once.

orly? I tried plugging vyvanse the first time I tried it, and using a HIGH dose (like 200mg?) since i was already very tolerant to ampssince I didn't think to look it up, and literally nothing happened. the next day i took 50mg and felt a weak, yet definitely recognizable stimulation (althhough it was very sedating). I'm almost 100% sure that you can't take lisdex orally without preparing it into dextroamphetamine, but if you guys say so, I believe you, just confusing given my experience with vyvanse.

 

[HighonLife]

only way to feel effects from vyvanse is to take it orally. it is a prodrug.

Bypassing the stomach will give you an inactive prodrug.

You have to use Vyvanse orally for it to work.

im no expert on vyvanse, codiene or pro drugs

but people on BL talk about pluggin codiene every now n then


best of luck to you OP, after this week i suggest you go to the Dr. get some attention to that ulcer, possibly switch your ADD meds if your gettign them prescribed

also i recommend this to anyone use rolaids instead of tums