nycblueskie
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The rest of the day I sniff
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Heroin IV H Trackmarks
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The rest of the day I sniff
tackyspiral
Bluelighter
wow... once i shot up for the first time.... i never sniffed opiates again because i didnt want to "waste" them lol
nycblueskie
Bluelighter
So wtf are you doing here shouldn't you be out buying staircases , studying your 12 steps
tackyspiral
Bluelighter
um excuse me?
fuck you motherfucker who the fuck are you to judge
ok sorry but i dont do the twelve steps thing and i mostly hang out in The dark side, drugs in the media, and all the community forums
not so much drug use forums
but hey i have a lil more exp than you
so yah use your fucking antibiotic ointment and vitamin e cocoa butter cream lol
cuz tracks do suck i had to wear long sleeves 80% of the summer and now i still have scars but they just arent as obvious
harm reduction just trying to help
fuck you motherfucker who the fuck are you to judge
ok sorry but i dont do the twelve steps thing and i mostly hang out in The dark side, drugs in the media, and all the community forums
not so much drug use forums
but hey i have a lil more exp than you
so yah use your fucking antibiotic ointment and vitamin e cocoa butter cream lol
cuz tracks do suck i had to wear long sleeves 80% of the summer and now i still have scars but they just arent as obvious
harm reduction just trying to help
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
^Yeah chill....I'm an "ex junkie" too....I don't go to meetings now, but I have in the past!! I t can help.....
Ya don't wanna get too cocky with heroin dude! it'll take anybody down, just keep shootin it, you'll find out, believe me!
Which, hey, if you're cool with your whole life boiling down to chasing little bags of white powder, great! Maybe thats what you want...I love the high dope gives me but I wanna a little more out of life at this pint in the game!
Ya don't wanna get too cocky with heroin dude! it'll take anybody down, just keep shootin it, you'll find out, believe me!
Which, hey, if you're cool with your whole life boiling down to chasing little bags of white powder, great! Maybe thats what you want...I love the high dope gives me but I wanna a little more out of life at this pint in the game!
tackyspiral
Bluelighter
i feel bad about getting angry
and yah after a while enough is enough and i do want to help
also wish i found this stuff sooner...
cream by tackyspiral, on Flickr
and remember right after you iv any antibiotic ointment is good
and yah after a while enough is enough and i do want to help
also wish i found this stuff sooner...
cream by tackyspiral, on Flickr
and remember right after you iv any antibiotic ointment is good
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
You've got a crazy attitude, man- puttin people down for overdosing on two bags (which i've seen happen) or for not using anymore... You come off sounding like a real asshole who wants to brag about his habit. Good luck with your track marks.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
lol I know right?
I have heard of a friend of mine who seized from shooting two bags though; so it does happen.
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
It definitely happens. I remember the first time i saw myfriend drop to the floor after shooting two bags, i didn't believe that was all he'd done, thought there must have been pills mixed in or something... only later once the ambulance had got him i did one and realized they were like three times stronger than what we were used to. And btw i can't picture anyone regularly slatmming 6 to 10 bags in one shot. Can we call bullshit on this guy?
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
It could be he's going through a middle man, someone could be cutting his dope by 1/2 or worse.
There are unfortunately way too many people who do such a thing just to feed their monster of a habit a bit more.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
You may be able to call bullshit on this guy, but just because YOU can't picture it, by no means is evidence that it doesn't go on....I'm not trying to dicksize, I'm just pointing this out for the sake of the truth....
I've had habits where I barely felt ten bag shots, was doing upwards of 50 bags a day.....Where I'm from that wouldve have been about 1.5 gs, small bags
More recently, I wasn't getting bundles, I was getting grams and at the end of 4 years of daily use, I was doing half-gram shots at a minimum and barely feeling it. 2 grams a day was my minimun to function....
I also disagree with the notion that shooting up twice isn't enough....If I did enough dope, it would carry me through 20 hours before getting really sick. thad depends on the person too....Some people wake up sick no matter how long it's been...It'a always taken me awhile to get sick....
So, not to dicksize, but before you make assumptions based on anecdotes, and your own casual use, realize that there's more to the "big picture" than what you've personally heard or experienced!
Thank you
I've had habits where I barely felt ten bag shots, was doing upwards of 50 bags a day.....Where I'm from that wouldve have been about 1.5 gs, small bags
More recently, I wasn't getting bundles, I was getting grams and at the end of 4 years of daily use, I was doing half-gram shots at a minimum and barely feeling it. 2 grams a day was my minimun to function....
I also disagree with the notion that shooting up twice isn't enough....If I did enough dope, it would carry me through 20 hours before getting really sick. thad depends on the person too....Some people wake up sick no matter how long it's been...It'a always taken me awhile to get sick....
So, not to dicksize, but before you make assumptions based on anecdotes, and your own casual use, realize that there's more to the "big picture" than what you've personally heard or experienced!
Thank you
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
I think the issue was that they said they just started; people took this to mean they had just started heroin usage, where the OP meant they had just started injecting, but they had been already using heroin for a long time.
In that case, it's probably not bullshit and it's probably accurate.
In that case, it's probably not bullshit and it's probably accurate.
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
Sorry if i'm being aggressive, i tend to drink heavily when i'm short on dope. This guy just came off sounding really arrogant and drunk me thought it was my job to call him on it.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
I mean, who knows....
Personally, I'd say, heroin is one of the easiest drugs to build a tolerance to quickly, that's what makes it so shitty....It's amzing how fast your tolerance can go up and how expensive it can get....
This is why, in most cases, people who are considering switching from their DOC opiate pills to heroin really aren't gonna benefit in the long run...There's no way to win if you use frequently...
I remember when I was younger it seemed imposible to me that I would ever end up using as much as I eventually had to use to get high!
Whether or not they remain effective for pain relief, IDK....I've alwyas used opiates to get high...
Personally, I'd say, heroin is one of the easiest drugs to build a tolerance to quickly, that's what makes it so shitty....It's amzing how fast your tolerance can go up and how expensive it can get....
This is why, in most cases, people who are considering switching from their DOC opiate pills to heroin really aren't gonna benefit in the long run...There's no way to win if you use frequently...
I remember when I was younger it seemed imposible to me that I would ever end up using as much as I eventually had to use to get high!
Whether or not they remain effective for pain relief, IDK....I've alwyas used opiates to get high...
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
i also just have a hard time envisioning any user who IVs once a day and snorts the rest of the day... for me (and it seems like most of us) it was like once I banged something any other ROA wasn't even considered anymore.
Tony Williams
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I have been IVIng for 5-6 years very intensely. What I fail to understand is 7-10 bags a SHOT!!! you must be getting bunk or summit that sounds an insane tolerence for a non-IVer.
What a track mark is is a needle hole. A needle is in and out it makes this trackmark. So a small insshulin 1ml 28-31g would leave a small track mark that is red dot and goes over a few days. Now 25g is bigger and uk they are orange they are midway iv vs im they make a bigger hole/mark. Thenn rightt down to a "HUGE MOFO" 21g would leave a bigger one.
Once the needle s out it is damagedalittle the second mark it marks may be bigger. you CAN spike 3 times ideally tops with a small one 28-31. I have used >10 times but them big ones you can't reuse must as the track will be worse.
What to do is this find a good vein like the crook use! then find another on the other arm and use then bounce between arms and use different veins pick about 6 and if you shoot 2x day then 3 days you cycle back. When you reshoot go further down.
More tips:
Drink alot of water as blood contains water so being hydrated is the key.
aim for veins not just you can see but feel
when the needle goes in a bit pull back and leave a space and it will fill with blood infact it should gush.
light pink, foamy? or is there pressure pushing the suringe or do you feel a shock? might be an artie DONT go should be dark
before IV wipe with alcohol and after use clean pads and apply DONT use alcohol after
Fucking use a band aid if you need to but don't itch it.
Use an anti histomine most h is cut with them but if not get bulk ones I get 1k 50mg diphen from the US
when shooting do a tiny bit if i there is NO pain then continue
Take a break or better still dont use the needle. I dont want you here with abccesses and regretting it but if you MUST.
Give it a trail maybe, some people fuck up and that puts them off. You should NOT have trackmarks with 1week of use mate really. LIMIT your IVing so you get proper teq, I wanna know why 7-10 bags? I do 4-6 170mgers normally but I IV alot and my tolerence is huge. Dont apply a location to a damaged skin/cut or after shooting. If your on a break some lotions with vit e or bio oil can help
What a track mark is is a needle hole. A needle is in and out it makes this trackmark. So a small insshulin 1ml 28-31g would leave a small track mark that is red dot and goes over a few days. Now 25g is bigger and uk they are orange they are midway iv vs im they make a bigger hole/mark. Thenn rightt down to a "HUGE MOFO" 21g would leave a bigger one.
Once the needle s out it is damagedalittle the second mark it marks may be bigger. you CAN spike 3 times ideally tops with a small one 28-31. I have used >10 times but them big ones you can't reuse must as the track will be worse.
What to do is this find a good vein like the crook use! then find another on the other arm and use then bounce between arms and use different veins pick about 6 and if you shoot 2x day then 3 days you cycle back. When you reshoot go further down.
More tips:
Drink alot of water as blood contains water so being hydrated is the key.
aim for veins not just you can see but feel
when the needle goes in a bit pull back and leave a space and it will fill with blood infact it should gush.
light pink, foamy? or is there pressure pushing the suringe or do you feel a shock? might be an artie DONT go should be dark
before IV wipe with alcohol and after use clean pads and apply DONT use alcohol after
Fucking use a band aid if you need to but don't itch it.
Use an anti histomine most h is cut with them but if not get bulk ones I get 1k 50mg diphen from the US
when shooting do a tiny bit if i there is NO pain then continue
Take a break or better still dont use the needle. I dont want you here with abccesses and regretting it but if you MUST.
Give it a trail maybe, some people fuck up and that puts them off. You should NOT have trackmarks with 1week of use mate really. LIMIT your IVing so you get proper teq, I wanna know why 7-10 bags? I do 4-6 170mgers normally but I IV alot and my tolerence is huge. Dont apply a location to a damaged skin/cut or after shooting. If your on a break some lotions with vit e or bio oil can help
Tony Williams
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I still stick by 7-10 bags is a joke you need to IV a PHARM and use that as a benchmark. Mine was
40-60mg DIAMORPHINE
120mg Methadone/Morphine
240mg+ OxyContin
(all IV in one hit)
I had this tolerence because I IV'ed 5-10 worth of bags daily. Fucking nearly 100k USD down the sink I have spent and all I get back is a few GREAT RUSHS I remember and bragging rights to my cancer of opiates. Its retarded.
I caimed it down and tolerence drops I TRY to aim at 2-3 bags getting me off. when it gets so high you cant rush anymore even going up. I stuck to buprenorphine for 11 days and shot 2 bags 170mg ish and rushed proper.
WHEN I WENT ONTO THE NEEDLE snorting 5 bags was = 1 IV. YOu;re lying, getting bunk or your on buprenorphine/opi blocker.
So when your not shooting 7-10 bags like last week did you need 30x up the nose or what?
40-60mg DIAMORPHINE
120mg Methadone/Morphine
240mg+ OxyContin
(all IV in one hit)
I had this tolerence because I IV'ed 5-10 worth of bags daily. Fucking nearly 100k USD down the sink I have spent and all I get back is a few GREAT RUSHS I remember and bragging rights to my cancer of opiates. Its retarded.
I caimed it down and tolerence drops I TRY to aim at 2-3 bags getting me off. when it gets so high you cant rush anymore even going up. I stuck to buprenorphine for 11 days and shot 2 bags 170mg ish and rushed proper.
WHEN I WENT ONTO THE NEEDLE snorting 5 bags was = 1 IV. YOu;re lying, getting bunk or your on buprenorphine/opi blocker.
So when your not shooting 7-10 bags like last week did you need 30x up the nose or what?
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
Track marks are actually fairly preventable, if you do the following:
- Never ever re-use a syringe! Even if you're just having a hard time finding a vein, after a couple pokes if you haven't been able to register, squirt your dope into a fresh syringe. This causes way less damage and also makes hitting easier.
- Try to keep the number of times you poke yourself to a minimum. Don't fish around. If you're having trouble hitting ask me for some tips.
- Rotate your injection sites, do not just keep using the same place on the same vein over and over, as tempting as that is.
The above 3 are the most important things you should do to prevent track marks, and not just for cosmetic reasons but to avoid destroying your veins and no longer being able to inject in them. You should also do the following:
- Use as thin a needle as works for you.
- Don't use small delicate veins.
- Make sure your spoon/cooker/whatever is completely clean before use.
- Filter your dope with a clean filter. Ideally with a micron filter if possible.
- Use an alcohol swab to clean the site before injecting, let dry completely, then inject.
- After injecting, apply gentle pressure with a clean finger or cotton ball to the site. Keep the injection sites clean.
- Use products like antibiotic/healing ointment, scar gel, vitamin E oil, etc on the sites. I think it's best not to apply it immediately, but these products work much better if you begin to apply them within 24 hrs as opposed to trying to fade scars that are weeks or months old.
- Try not to inject as few times a day as possible.
- Stay well-hydrated.
- Never ever re-use a syringe! Even if you're just having a hard time finding a vein, after a couple pokes if you haven't been able to register, squirt your dope into a fresh syringe. This causes way less damage and also makes hitting easier.
- Try to keep the number of times you poke yourself to a minimum. Don't fish around. If you're having trouble hitting ask me for some tips.
- Rotate your injection sites, do not just keep using the same place on the same vein over and over, as tempting as that is.
The above 3 are the most important things you should do to prevent track marks, and not just for cosmetic reasons but to avoid destroying your veins and no longer being able to inject in them. You should also do the following:
- Use as thin a needle as works for you.
- Don't use small delicate veins.
- Make sure your spoon/cooker/whatever is completely clean before use.
- Filter your dope with a clean filter. Ideally with a micron filter if possible.
- Use an alcohol swab to clean the site before injecting, let dry completely, then inject.
- After injecting, apply gentle pressure with a clean finger or cotton ball to the site. Keep the injection sites clean.
- Use products like antibiotic/healing ointment, scar gel, vitamin E oil, etc on the sites. I think it's best not to apply it immediately, but these products work much better if you begin to apply them within 24 hrs as opposed to trying to fade scars that are weeks or months old.
- Try not to inject as few times a day as possible.
- Stay well-hydrated.
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Tony Williams
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Everyone says it but I am agaist applying oils to clean track marks, cover it and 12hr apply bio oil or vit e one. Or 30min+ Sudocrem
Please I am being serious now weigh your bags/doses - talk to others buying and if you use another dealer assume 1 bag. Last summer I remember getting TONNES of brown and hammering it so hard I got to a point where I was gunna buy a 5ml to fit 10 bags in (now I hear that'd fit in 2ml) I did do 6bag2ml and another 4ml within a min. THe high wasnt chased up and I was wasting money. I got back on bupe and let it drop
TO help find veins walk, exercise - then before shot swing your arm. Dont be cold do it in warm, heat too. Still hard? tournaquit (sock I use) and use >boiling water on a flannel and apply to IV site but make sure it wont burn you just warm it. Smack your vein up abit and what I do is take off the tourn then go in rather than shoot wirth it on or take off half way.
One question is can you shoot away from the heart? Lets say your elbow is rested and your hitting the veins on the top of your arm and you insert upwards? I do/did this and see people do it.
you can OD from a single bag nearly if you aint tolerent the %% and mg is always diff. Pure heroin 20-30mg is good for a tolerent user to benchmark your tolerence it needs to be pure pharms. I hope you're not ont he bl shrine died from 40-60mg methadone oral or anything else.
Please I am being serious now weigh your bags/doses - talk to others buying and if you use another dealer assume 1 bag. Last summer I remember getting TONNES of brown and hammering it so hard I got to a point where I was gunna buy a 5ml to fit 10 bags in (now I hear that'd fit in 2ml) I did do 6bag2ml and another 4ml within a min. THe high wasnt chased up and I was wasting money. I got back on bupe and let it drop
TO help find veins walk, exercise - then before shot swing your arm. Dont be cold do it in warm, heat too. Still hard? tournaquit (sock I use) and use >boiling water on a flannel and apply to IV site but make sure it wont burn you just warm it. Smack your vein up abit and what I do is take off the tourn then go in rather than shoot wirth it on or take off half way.
One question is can you shoot away from the heart? Lets say your elbow is rested and your hitting the veins on the top of your arm and you insert upwards? I do/did this and see people do it.
you can OD from a single bag nearly if you aint tolerent the %% and mg is always diff. Pure heroin 20-30mg is good for a tolerent user to benchmark your tolerence it needs to be pure pharms. I hope you're not ont he bl shrine died from 40-60mg methadone oral or anything else.
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
No, that's a bad idea. It can damage your veins (cause them to rupture, cause leakage, mess up the valves, etc). Even if you're hitting an awkward vein you should still be able to manage to inject in the direction of blood flow, towards the heart. Do not inject against the flow of blood. If you need tips on how to do it or some better vein locations let me know.