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My first ''roll''. couple questions

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norwaytoker

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Hey, on tuesday I tried mdma for the first time. I only took a small dose, 0,05-0,06, and got small results. It was pure mdma, however I feel I didnt really get to experience the true mdma high from this small a dose. This friday however I was thinking about rolling for real.

Considering I took 0,05 mdma (first time) this tuesday, would it be safe to roll again this friday? Gonna have 0,5 mdma so will be able to dose properly.

I know you're supposed to wait a couple months between each roll, but Im kinda eager to truely experience mdma since I only had a teaser high last time. Will the high be shitty because I havent waited long enough? Or is the 0,05g roll I had couple days ago irrelevant?
 
IMO, real science might bash my theory, if you are talking about 50mg of MDMA (I'm not sure what 0,05-0,06 is? Could be 5-6mg could be 500mg please specify) it should really be kind of irrelevant.

You could play on the safe side and wait a couple more weeks? I mean 50mg is half of what some people would consider a normal dose-range for MDMA.

But hey, thats just my .02.

I'm about to post my own MDMA question, lol.

Edit: If you are talking about 500mg, and you didn't experience any effects... then you probably don't have MDMA. But I digress. Be safe. It is a crazy world.
 
yeah it was 50mg, half of the normal dose. would it be safe to take a regular dose this friday? or would the high kinda suck?
 
It might not be as potent, but it will still yield strong results. As long as you don't go on an epic MDMA binge, you will probably be fine tolerance wise. Just don't use it anymore after Friday for a month-to-a-couple-of-months.
 
In my honest opinion, I would wait. There's not going to be anything like your first roll, and you're going to want it to reach it's full potential, truuuuust me. My first roll was the best night of my life, EVER, and I did it with a friend whom I barely knew at a House/Trance concert. I still get flashbacks from that first night, and sometimes when I think about it my heart literally aches because I wish so badly that I could go back to that night. I would have purchased some of the Molly that I was given (it was given to me for free because I had gotten .5g and .2g that I had taken over a few hours did absolutely nothing to me). I've never had a cleaner roll, and the other "Molly" that I've tried has been cut with amphets. I still have access to the guy's number that gave it to me, but he's about a two hour drive from me and it's just not convenient as of right now. Maybe one day soon!

So, anyway, back to my original point: wait it out. And btw, 50mg of legitimate Molly should have had you rolling pretty well. Even some experienced users can get away with 65mg or so.
 
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samnslumberland said:
So, anyway, back to my original point: wait it out. And btw, .5g of legitimate Molly should have had you rolling pretty well. Even some experienced users can get away with .65g or so.
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Hmm not trying to be harsh or anything, but .50mg-65mg would be anecdotal doses. I mean obviously OP would feel some activity, but if he has any prior use of amphetamines I really doubt a dose in that range would be that influential. It all depends on the quality of the product too. I think it also could boil down to ROA as well. I can IV 25mg and get pretty substantial effects whereas orally 25mg would do nothing but inhibit extremely-mild mental-stimulation.
 
Diloadid said:
Hmm not trying to be harsh or anything, but .50mg-65mg would be anecdotal doses. I mean obviously OP would feel some activity, but if he has any prior use of amphetamines I really doubt a dose in that range would be that influential. It all depends on the quality of the product too. I think it also could boil down to ROA as well. I can IV 25mg and get pretty substantial effects whereas orally 25mg would do nothing but inhibit extremely-mild mental-stimulation.
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Ohhkay so I reviewed the thread in which I thought that I had read about experienced rollers saying that they rolled "hard" on 60mg and you're right. It was honest confusion, so thank you for the correction. They said that they encountered a light come up with mild euphoria and empathy. I did grab a chart to share that somebody else had posted beforehand on this forum that outlines correct doses in terms of weight and how hard one would like to roll.

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I was rolling face on 100mg for my first time, although I suppose if I could redo it I would have redosed with 25-50mg within the hour to go all out.
 
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A lot of the time, what people hear for dosing gets even more confused because there are a lot of people (more so out in the general party population than on bluelight) who will simply refer to 1 capsule as .1 or just "a point". So when they say they did 6 points or .6, what they really did was 6 caps and there is no way to know exactly what was in them or what their dose was.
 
samnslumberland said:
And btw, .5g of legitimate Molly should have had you rolling pretty well. Even some experienced users can get away with .65g or so.
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there seems to be a lot of confusion over units here. 0.5g and 0.65g are ridiculously heavy doses of mdma.

suggesting that somebody could "get away" with ingesting .65g of mdma is putting it very mildly and has very little to do with harm-reduction, that i can see. :\

alasdair
 
MDMA is a potent drug, I don't know why people insist on measuring their doses in grams.


50mg is certainly a noticeable dose, not a big one but it is sure to cause some 5-HT release. For me though, such low intensity effects wouldn't be worth the inherent neurotoxicity that comes with MDMA... a dose like that just raises tolerance without any good effects
 
Folley said:
50mg is certainly a noticeable dose, not a big one but it is sure to cause some 5-HT release. For me though, such low intensity effects wouldn't be worth the inherent neurotoxicity that comes with MDMA... a dose like that just raises tolerance without any good effects
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I can agree with the first part. But would you really think it would raise a persons tolerance that much? Especially given it was OP's first time using, so less-or-more it was an allergy test (albeit a rather large one).

I was actually trying to verify early on in this thread what exact measurement OP was talking about. Which is why I asked 5mg, 50mg, or 500mg?

Because it would go without question that 5mg would go unnoticed.
I can agree that 50mg would cause some-activity, questionable on the release tho? Also commented that it would be an anecdotal dose... ...
And I certainly tried to make it a point that if you dosed 500mg with little activity, your MDMA is like adulterated.

The bold part is an excerpt from my reply to OP, post #2
Edit: If you are talking about 500mg, and you didn't experience any effects... then you probably don't have MDMA. But I digress. Be safe. It is a crazy world.
 
0,125g or 125mg is a normal dose of mdma, I took 0,05 or 50mg.

I think we might be getting a bit of topic here people. My question is, would using 50mg for the first time cause such a spike in my mdma tolerance that using a proper dose (125mg) couple days later would be a waste?

How did the 50mg effect me? Well, I felt like I had just smoked a spliff of some sativa dank, so I had bigger expectations for the high. If I had to give an example, I would compare it to drinking 2 beers, when 6 beers is needed to get drunk. By drinking 2 beers you most def get a understanding of how it is to be drunk, but drinking all 6 beers and actually getting drunk is very very different. Thats kinda how I felt when I took mdma
 
I'm not saying it's going to shoot up your tolerance, but when you can only roll once a month max anyways why would you waste that roll with 50mg?

Obviously, someone who did 50mg before would have more tolerance than someone who took nothing, but if they waited long enough then no it probably would make no difference.



It sounds like the OP took a .050 gram dose, and now has .5 grams of powder so he can properly dose this time. I'm assuming he's not planning on taking that much, as that's simply way too high of a dose...



OP, if I was you I would take 125mg and redose with a 80mg booster if you want it. Nothing more, and I personally wouldn't take any less (but I might skip the re-dose)



norwaytoker said:
I think we might be getting a bit of topic here people. My question is, would using 50mg for the first time cause such a spike in my mdma tolerance that using a proper dose (125m) couple days later would be a waste?\
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Only a couple of days? Oh fuck that dude.

No, I must say you should NOT do that. You need to be waiting at least a month between every big roll, since you didn't get very good effects you might be able to get away with taking a 2 week break, but that's the MINIMUM. After only a couple of days you're still likely to have tolerance, and if you really want to have a good roll you will wait.




I used to take MDMA all the time until I completely raped my brain by taking it too often... it's a very safe drug when used responsibly, but if you abuse it, it will fuck you in the ass.

Be safe.
 
Appriciate all the help you guys. And Folley, I know youre supposed to wait atleast a month between every big roll. but thing is, this wasnt a big roll, it was a very very small roll.
 
I guess it was stupid of me to take that 50mg, but the reason why I did is this. My friend gave it to me for free, and I dropped it thinking it wouldnt even get me high. It did get me high though, but not nearly as high as I had expected from taking MDMA. So now Im in this position where I kinda know what it feels like, but still dont. And I reeeally wanna exeperience a true mdma high and this friday I got the chance

Guess I shouldn't have taken that 50mg :(
 
Yeah that's why I said you could probably get away with 2 weeks this one time... a 50mg dose will still release serotonin, dopamine and all that good stuff, so you will still be at lowered levels of those neurochemicals, even if it's not as low levels as you would normally get to.

You want your first real roll to be as amazing as possible, not just alright because you took a 50mg dose a while before :)
 
alasdairm said:
there seems to be a lot of confusion over units here. 0.5g and 0.65g are ridiculously heavy doses of mdma.

suggesting that somebody could "get away" with ingesting .65g of mdma is putting it very mildly and has very little to do with harm-reduction, that i can see. :\

alasdair
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Oh my God I meant to say 65mg guys, sorry! I do know the difference, I just wasn't thinking while I was typing. I'm aware that .5g is 500mg and so on, it was just a typo. I'll fix it. At the bottom of that post I said that I had purchased .5g and took .2g which is correct.
 
Yeah I see what youre saying dude.. damn. I was hoping since I was a mdma virgin that the 50mg wouldn't affect my tolerance.

Anyone got any personal experience when it comes to this kinda situation?

I guess I should add I never did redose when I tried my virgin mdma hit of 50mg
 
norwaytoker said:
Yeah I see what youre saying dude.. damn. I was hoping since I was a mdma virgin that the 50mg wouldn't affect my tolerance.

Anyone got any personal experience when it comes to this kinda situation?

I guess I should add I never did redose when I tried my virgin mdma hit of 50mg
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It is at your discretion whether or not you choose to roll five days later. I agree with Folley in the sense that waiting another week would probably be a good idea. But I also feel that with no prior experience of MDMA, and at such a low dosage, you could probably get away with dosing five days later. Just keep it on the safe side, and def. don't make it a habit of dosing that frequently.
 
Well it wouldnt be five days, only 2. But yeah I know I shouldnt make a habit of doing mdma this frequently, but the reason I wanna do this again this soon is that I didnt experience the ''real'' mdma high, and this is what I wanna do tonight. Im guessing 125-150mg would be good?

Dont know if this matters, but I had little to no hangover the day after my 50mg mdma roll and the high wasnt that much stronger than that of some high grade Weed x couple coups of coffee
 
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