2 heroin questions.

[my84firebird355]

Okay

Q1. Is heroins (either heroins 1 or 2 only) solubility in water greatest with cold water, warm or hot?

Q2. Is there a way, through dissolving and evaporating or maybe some other way, to remove all foreign cuts from heroin so that one could end up with a pure powder in the end?

 

[mister right]

My only experience (though years long) was too dump the powder "H" on a spoon with cold water (any temp. of water will suffice.) I found no need for heating it up (though I've never done black tar) stir it up good with the back end of the plunger. Drop a piece of cotton in the spoon about the size of a tic-tac and stick the tip of the needle into the cotton making sure not to poke through it. Suck it up slowly and the cotton will filter most, MOST (not all) of the impurities out of it. Hope that helped.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Room temperature water is ideal.. but it will dissolve in any water quite easily especially if it's powder H.

The best way to remove cuts and other harmful shit is to use a micron filter. But, it's not the way of removing cut that you are imagining.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Q1. Is heroins (either heroins 1 or 2 only) solubility in water greatest with cold water, warm or hot?

What do you mean heroin 1 or 2? I think you're mistaken about the numbers and it's best not to use numbers anyway, they're unclear - it's better to at least use terms like powder heroin, base heroin, tar heroin. So please explain what kind of heroin you are talking about? US powder heroin should be plenty soluble in room temp water.

Long story:
I hate the number system. I think it confuses people more often than it makes things clear. The number system was devised by the US DEA in the early 1970s, focused on the heroin market of that era, and is frequently misused.

Nowadays most people don't use the original numbering system properly. What likely happened is that someone read the DEA article which mentioned the heroin number system and assumed that all heroin that could be smoked was heroin #3. In fact most people now call heroin base "#3 heroin". Base heroin does require acid and heat to dissolve. The numbers are so misused (and pointless IMO) that I prefer to not use the numbers at all.

The original DEA number system, as I understand it, is as follows:

Heroin #1: morphine (in commodity form, specifically manufactured to sell to heroin #4 producers)
Heroin #2: heroin base
Heroin #3: #4 heroin with 40% caffeine added to make it conducive for smoking
Heroin #4: heroin hydrochoride (hcl), made specifically for injection

Tar heroin doesn't have a number, powder heroin in North America is generally #4, and base heroin like the kind they have in the UK which needs an acid to dissolve is now mostly referred to as #3 (even though on the original system it was #2).

Q2. Is there a way, through dissolving and evaporating or maybe some other way, to remove all foreign cuts from heroin so that one could end up with a pure powder in the end?

Not really unfortunately. The best way to remove the most cuts possible is to filter it using a micron filter, but even that won't remove everything.

dump the powder "H" on a spoon with cold water (any temp. of water will suffice.) I found no need for heating it up (though I've never done black tar) stir it up good with the back end of the plunger. Drop a piece of cotton in the spoon about the size of a tic-tac and stick the tip of the needle into the cotton making sure not to poke through it. Suck it up slowly and the cotton will filter most, MOST (not all) of the impurities out of it.

It depends on whether the cuts are soluble in room temp water or not, if they are they won't get removed.

 

[my84firebird355]

from what I understand the number system goes like this H#1 is the most processed and purest form you can get, most people call it china white, then there is h#2 which is not as processed as #1 but more processed then #3 and it's known by the name bobby brown or brown powder, h#3 is tar, h#4 is heroin that can only be smoked and is more like opium then it is heroin. I will look for sources to back this up but I've read about it a few times a while back.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

from what I understand the number system goes like this H#1 is the most processed and purest form you can get, most people call it china white, then there is h#2 which is not as processed as #1 but more processed then #3 and it's known by the name bobby brown or brown powder, h#3 is tar, h#4 is heroin that can only be smoked and is more like opium then it is heroin. I will look for sources to back this up but I've read about it a few times a while back.

That's not remotely correct at all. See my explanation of the number system above.

The most processed purest form of heroin which is white powder and some people call "China White" (although that term is also sometimes used to describe fentanyl as well) is heroin hydrochloride, which is #4. But when you're buying heroin on the street there is no guarantee for purity at all, it can be cut with anything. Base heroin is sort of grey-ish or beige-ish and is the base form of heroin which is smokable, is not normally found in North America, but is common in Europe and requires heat and an acid to dissolve, is nowadays referred to as #3 (although it was originally #2). Brown powder could be either a less refined or cut heroin hydrochloride, tar heroin that's mixed with a white powder to make it into a powder, or possibly base heroin depending on what you mean by "brown". Tar heroin does not have a number. #1 and #2 are not normally used these days. See why I don't like the number system and find it useless?

 

[4evrLkn]

^^^^ hates the number system...