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[Mega] Anxiety and Paranoia Help / Discussion Thread
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RobotRipping
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you're smoking way too much, especially if you haven't smoked much in your life. I don't really get any euphoria, just a relaxing buzz, once you have that you should just stop. If you are smoking that much then DP/DR is just one of the effects of being really high with little to no tolerance.
Honeybean - You might want to give everything a break for awhile or at the very least the psychedelics and the blow. At least for awhile. Then try a hit or two of weed and see how you like it. I have found that my weed highs are the best when I have not been using anything else. If you do start to smoke again, try to keep it at least somewhat infrequent and keep the doses low and slow. An occasional drink or two is fine if you must use something else with it IMO.
Keep in mind, you are only 19 years old. Your brain is still developing a bit. Most mental health issues start to pop up from around 19-21ish. Using lots of stimulants and psychedelics can really exacerbate mental health issues. Also, was the Hydrocodone prescribed or were you just taking it to get high?
I scored some wax hash recently on a whim a few days ago and I very rarely smoke nowadays. I have enjoyed it quite a bit, however I have gotten myself uncomfortably high twice. The stuff has lasted forever though, because I only have to smoke the tiniest bit to get high. Another thing I like about hash is that it is easy to cook with and you can make simple things like hash yogurts. I find my favorite type of high nowadays is a mild to medium dose of oral cannabis. I envy those who have regular access to edibles and extracts...
I stopped smoking for like two years and before that had been ramping down my marijuana usage slowly before then. I have been off and on for over a decade and I'd say that for at least half of that time I have had to really watch my doses with cannabis. I would only smoke high quality so it was usually a hit or two at most.
One thing I do notice is that I can smoke a lot more when I go out some place else for a weekend or something. I think it has to do with being in a totally new environment and away from responsibilities. Plus, I always worry about running into people from work or something while stoned. I live in mid-sized city but I swear everyone knows everyone in this damn place.
So yes, set and setting can play huge roles in how one enjoys cannabis.
Keep in mind, you are only 19 years old. Your brain is still developing a bit. Most mental health issues start to pop up from around 19-21ish. Using lots of stimulants and psychedelics can really exacerbate mental health issues. Also, was the Hydrocodone prescribed or were you just taking it to get high?
I scored some wax hash recently on a whim a few days ago and I very rarely smoke nowadays. I have enjoyed it quite a bit, however I have gotten myself uncomfortably high twice. The stuff has lasted forever though, because I only have to smoke the tiniest bit to get high. Another thing I like about hash is that it is easy to cook with and you can make simple things like hash yogurts. I find my favorite type of high nowadays is a mild to medium dose of oral cannabis. I envy those who have regular access to edibles and extracts...
I stopped smoking for like two years and before that had been ramping down my marijuana usage slowly before then. I have been off and on for over a decade and I'd say that for at least half of that time I have had to really watch my doses with cannabis. I would only smoke high quality so it was usually a hit or two at most.
One thing I do notice is that I can smoke a lot more when I go out some place else for a weekend or something. I think it has to do with being in a totally new environment and away from responsibilities. Plus, I always worry about running into people from work or something while stoned. I live in mid-sized city but I swear everyone knows everyone in this damn place.
So yes, set and setting can play huge roles in how one enjoys cannabis.
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You are smoking way way too much... try taking a hit or two at the most. Especially if smoking anything more then low grade weed. Smoking from a pipe will allow you much better control over your intake.
Weed doesn't agree with everyone either. Also, you might want to try eating a small amount of a cannabis edible and see if that is better. Some people, myself included, find it much easier to handle that way. But I used to be able to smoke a ton of weed at one point but that was when I really enjoyed the psychedelic effects of cannabis.
Weed doesn't agree with everyone either. Also, you might want to try eating a small amount of a cannabis edible and see if that is better. Some people, myself included, find it much easier to handle that way. But I used to be able to smoke a ton of weed at one point but that was when I really enjoyed the psychedelic effects of cannabis.
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Try smoking a lot less, or vaporize it but just take a hit or two.
You could try eating it but start out with a low amount, and keep in mind that it can take awhile for the effects to happen.
I don't use anything at all now but I would just go with the DP/DR since there's nothing else you can do, and fighting it will make it worse.
Also look up depersonalization, derealization, and disassociation in the forum called The Dark side they have discussion threads or probably a mega thread about all three there.
You could try eating it but start out with a low amount, and keep in mind that it can take awhile for the effects to happen.
I don't use anything at all now but I would just go with the DP/DR since there's nothing else you can do, and fighting it will make it worse.
Also look up depersonalization, derealization, and disassociation in the forum called The Dark side they have discussion threads or probably a mega thread about all three there.
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Chainer
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merged into mega anxiety thread, DR is discussed there often. I don't believe we have any better specific mega threads for the subject alone, though you should also try searching for DP/DR (single word search) in thread titles under Cannabis Discussion
Normandy
Greenlighter
I know Honeybean has been answered pretty well, I just wanted to add a couple of things and highlight a bit of my own story.
I don't know enough about about the medical side, and I'm just assuming you are definitely going to continue smoking but really you know your situation better than anyone here...anyway here's my two cents! To me it seems like the anxiety is mostly due to set/setting...all of these intense experiences occured in a pretty short amount of time, with few of them being very positive. These people you were interacting with were also a new crowd, so it makes sense that being high around them didn't necessarily have a calming effect. I had a similar time in my life where so many things were new and changing and unstable, I was smoking around people I wasn't very connected with and to add to the mix I didn't have all that much experience...during this time weed was a very intense, uncomfortable and sometimes terrifying experience for me (I also had panic attacks seemingly from nowhere). So I went cold turkey for a while (I'm talking months), while acknowledging that the problem was with me, not the herb, and I had to get my shit together and take care of myself...Once my set/setting had changed pretty radically and was in a comfortable environment I started on small doses and went from there. The experience really taught me to respect drugs a lot more and I enjoyed lighting up sooo much more after that.
So I don't know if this will help you (or anyone else) but I just thought I'd share...
I don't know enough about about the medical side, and I'm just assuming you are definitely going to continue smoking but really you know your situation better than anyone here...anyway here's my two cents! To me it seems like the anxiety is mostly due to set/setting...all of these intense experiences occured in a pretty short amount of time, with few of them being very positive. These people you were interacting with were also a new crowd, so it makes sense that being high around them didn't necessarily have a calming effect. I had a similar time in my life where so many things were new and changing and unstable, I was smoking around people I wasn't very connected with and to add to the mix I didn't have all that much experience...during this time weed was a very intense, uncomfortable and sometimes terrifying experience for me (I also had panic attacks seemingly from nowhere). So I went cold turkey for a while (I'm talking months), while acknowledging that the problem was with me, not the herb, and I had to get my shit together and take care of myself...Once my set/setting had changed pretty radically and was in a comfortable environment I started on small doses and went from there. The experience really taught me to respect drugs a lot more and I enjoyed lighting up sooo much more after that.
So I don't know if this will help you (or anyone else) but I just thought I'd share...
Very good post, weed is most enjoyable when you have your shit together. In my experience, I was unable to use it as an "escape from my problems" after the first few years (not to mention using a substance as an escape is just not a healthy thing). My best highs were always when I was free from stress in life. Of course, in order to get my life back on track I had to stop smoking so much. All in all its a good thing.
But yes, set and setting are very very important... of course what and where someone is comfortable with varies for the individual. I can be a bit of a worrier, which makes me more prone to situation based anxiety when high.
I agree with allot of what your saying here. I smoked for 3 years then started getting panic attacks, realized i was treating life like i didn't' matter. Began getting my shit together, cleaned up my diet, got back working out, lost 60 lbs and am still on the path making myself into the man that the "child" me would be proud of. And i believe that this silly plant, kinda held my hand along the way. Some of it sucked though, and was/is extremely painful, i spent 2 years in Iraq and had/have allot of dark thoughts/images inside me. Each time i overcome i win another victory over the enemy inside me and with each victory i have a greater sense of the man i am becoming. I made a value compass put it on my wall, and used that to navigate through my freak outs.
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What's wrong with me not liking it, got high 4 times legit
Smoked a few times before, nothing happened. Then finally my first time was Blue Dream out of homemade g bong. 2 hits of yellow smoke and I thought I was choking to death. The high really FREAKED me out. My friends took it easy bc they always smoke. It's those moments when you think you're fine until you realize you've been in the same spot for 5 minutes. All the other times I smoked was out of a glass pipe taking about 6 hits. My friend and I left back door unlocked to get in later after sneeking the weed out at night to smoke it somewhere safe. When we got back I was focusing on unlocking the unlocked back door but ended up locking it. I was there like a mad scientist trying to figure out what the fuck. Finally we called his mom saying that the back door is locked. I finally opened it after 8 minutes and we hung up. Have I been getting too high each time where it's uncomfortable? I love the body feeling especially when I smoked some purp with my friend, after getting off the bench I felt like I was melting. Problem is I get severly retarted, it becomes an adventure trying to navigate. My friend and I wers running like paranoid fucks across strwets thinking we were at risk of forgetting to cross while crossing. I really hate the mental aspect of it feeling so stupid and all. Can't even understand a movie. It feels like a trapped state of mind, man when is it gonna end..sleep it off. Everytime I smoked I always found myself extremely high, always endingwith a pass out, sleeping like a baby. I really wanted to get used to it but I don't know if it was bc I was too high..I ended up selling my wighth of purp w free glass pipe for 20 to get rid of it. Too much impairment, feels like my mind is trapped
Smoked a few times before, nothing happened. Then finally my first time was Blue Dream out of homemade g bong. 2 hits of yellow smoke and I thought I was choking to death. The high really FREAKED me out. My friends took it easy bc they always smoke. It's those moments when you think you're fine until you realize you've been in the same spot for 5 minutes. All the other times I smoked was out of a glass pipe taking about 6 hits. My friend and I left back door unlocked to get in later after sneeking the weed out at night to smoke it somewhere safe. When we got back I was focusing on unlocking the unlocked back door but ended up locking it. I was there like a mad scientist trying to figure out what the fuck. Finally we called his mom saying that the back door is locked. I finally opened it after 8 minutes and we hung up. Have I been getting too high each time where it's uncomfortable? I love the body feeling especially when I smoked some purp with my friend, after getting off the bench I felt like I was melting. Problem is I get severly retarted, it becomes an adventure trying to navigate. My friend and I wers running like paranoid fucks across strwets thinking we were at risk of forgetting to cross while crossing. I really hate the mental aspect of it feeling so stupid and all. Can't even understand a movie. It feels like a trapped state of mind, man when is it gonna end..sleep it off. Everytime I smoked I always found myself extremely high, always endingwith a pass out, sleeping like a baby. I really wanted to get used to it but I don't know if it was bc I was too high..I ended up selling my wighth of purp w free glass pipe for 20 to get rid of it. Too much impairment, feels like my mind is trapped
Krat0m
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There's nothing wrong with you. I smoked all through high school and then as I got older I started disliking it, that didn't stop me from having a toke now and then. It started to make me feel paranoid and insecure. Marijuana is not for everyone not everyone likes every drug. Just as some people dislike uppers or downers.
Artificial Emotion
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The VAST majority of commercial strains contain virtually no CBD. High CBD strains are extremely rare.
It sounds like every time you smoke you simply over do it.
Even as an experienced smoker, if I smoke a bowl or two too much I can still freak out easily. Just take what you need and that's it, it's not a competition or a race to see how much you can inhale before you pass out from being too high. Instead smoke a bowl or two and just relax. Some bud gets you higher on less amounts, which is better cause all you need is a bowl and you feel good. The more material you have to smoke the more lazy the high feels, at least in my experience. When you smoke you should find a comfortable spot you don't have to move from. It's easy to smoke then get a little freaked out when you have to travel places. It's best to plan these sort of details out in advance.
Even as an experienced smoker, if I smoke a bowl or two too much I can still freak out easily. Just take what you need and that's it, it's not a competition or a race to see how much you can inhale before you pass out from being too high. Instead smoke a bowl or two and just relax. Some bud gets you higher on less amounts, which is better cause all you need is a bowl and you feel good. The more material you have to smoke the more lazy the high feels, at least in my experience. When you smoke you should find a comfortable spot you don't have to move from. It's easy to smoke then get a little freaked out when you have to travel places. It's best to plan these sort of details out in advance.
Chainer
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I've read through this thread a bit but haven't yet found the answers I'm looking for. What is there to do about weed anxiety? Any mental exercises or supplements to make the mind relax? Even indica strains make me shakey, heart pound-y, paranoid... this didn't used to happen to me and I miss being high so much- especially since my friends are always blazing around me. I haven't smoked in six months and every day when the opportunity arises, I feel so hesitant to try it because of the way it started making me feel. I always get this irrational, obsessive thought that I might have a seizure or some extreme medical condition... which is probably near impossible. But that thought just overwhelms me every time I get high.
I've done TONS of psychedelics, dissociatiatives and MDMA in my life... lately, I've been having so much trouble keeping strong an enoying many of this experiences...
Any ideas what could be wrong? I'm looking everywhere for the answers.
Edit: After reading through the last two pages of this thread, instead of the first few, I definitely see some answers. A lot of them are helpful... I just have so much trouble getting past "my own thoughts". I used to have the strongest mind when it came to psychoactives and now I break under everything. I guess I'm just not really sure how to get myself back into my original, strong mindstate
I've done TONS of psychedelics, dissociatiatives and MDMA in my life... lately, I've been having so much trouble keeping strong an enoying many of this experiences...
Any ideas what could be wrong? I'm looking everywhere for the answers.
Edit: After reading through the last two pages of this thread, instead of the first few, I definitely see some answers. A lot of them are helpful... I just have so much trouble getting past "my own thoughts". I used to have the strongest mind when it came to psychoactives and now I break under everything. I guess I'm just not really sure how to get myself back into my original, strong mindstate
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Why would there be? You're intentionally ingesting a chemical that makes you, personally, anxious, and then hoping there's a fix for that? Dude, you were already fixed. You fucked that up by smoking weed, and you should've damn well known what you were getting yourself into beforehand.
Try meditating or some shit. Xanax is a definite, but it might cause an addiction or dependency... warm milk before you smoke? Fuck if we know, man, best bet is to stop doing shit that makes you anxious-- that way you won't have to worry about curing your self-inflicted anxiety.
I think people are willing to risk bad effects such as paranoia anxiety or even chase them is not stupidity. Happiness tends to promote a feeling of strength when we are willing to try unknown or master unpleasant things.
heres a rather bad weed experience i had:
I had smoked small amount of weed, hash before. when it was passed around at parties. taking a puff or 2 then passing it on. feeling a bit buzzed. but never had a significant amount to smoke. recently i got about 5 grams from friend.
i was quite excited to try it but had to wait till my mother who i live with was out of the house. she departed and i got my bong and set to it in the garage. i smoked quite a lot. 3 bowls about a gram. didnt seem to do much s went back inside. 10 minutes later the effects hit me. first in the stomach like i was going to be sick then a panic. it happened again a few minutes later then i felt better. i became obsessed with trivial things. i spent about an hour looking for the tv remote then was joyed to find it but realised i didnt want to watch tv. i watched a film 'enter the void' which is about drug use and was loving the hallucinagenic scenes and trippy way the film is shot. then i passed out for about 8 hours. much less than i normally sleep.
the next day went pretty normal i drank a couple of beers. feeling a bit bored i thought id finish off the small amount of weed i had left. it was a very small amount 100mg maybe. i smoked it up in the small acrylic bong i had. wandered back inside. i sat down to play a game of fifa on the computer talking to a friend online. about 15 mins after smoking it i had a massive rush. in my stomach and head and huge anxiety. i said to my friend iv smoked some weed and feel terrible. he was not particularly concerned and after a minute i regained my composure we played a couple of games laughin a bit.. the third game we played about 15 mins after starting it hit me again in a huge body rush. this time much worse i mumbled i have to go and left the computer.
i got some cigarettes and went walking round the small town i have. it was better outside walking but i was still panicking and having to really focus on my breathing to keep the anxiety at bay. i walked for about 30 minutes but then felt thirsty so went back to the house to get some water. when i got back my friend online was still there. i told him i felt terrible like i was going to die. he was pretty blase. 'its just the weed. you over thinking it. you can turn this into a positive experience if you relax and dont panic'. this seemed pretty stupid to me there was no way to escape this horror other than waiting it out and hoping the effects would subside. i packed up some water and a coat and set out on my bike. i felt very tired but being still made my problems much worse. so i rode around the town. into fields not really knowing where the hell i was. concerned i might get lost but pushing on anyway as i felt i was doomed. felling very tired now after riding for maybe 40 minutes i found my way home. put the bike back and went inside. my friend had gone now off the computer and i didnt wanna sit back down. i went to bed.
it was nice being in bed comfortable. but my anxiety sky rocketed. i looked at the clock. 1:30 am. about 2 and a half hours since i smoked. my worry was that the weed was laced with something or that i had accidentally ingested something very toxic. i knew weed cant kill you. but thought i was in real peril and was due to smoking something else. i would lie down to rest but then feel like demons were pushing me down into the ground. id get up. go to the toilet, drink water and feel better. this cycle carried on for about a couple of hours. it was now about 6 hours since id smoked and i was still totally messed up. i thought this cant be weed. im gonna have to go to the hospital. which i really didnt want to do as they probably wouldnt take me seriously and it would cause a whole load of drama with my family. i got up went to the toilet then bit the bullet. i knocked on my sisters door. it was 4:20 am. she was hard to wake up but after repeatedly calling her name she woke up. i told her i was in a bad way. id smoked weed 6 hours ago and still felt awful. i felt better just talking to her. she gave me some diazepan. which i was nervous of taking in case it made me worse. she told me about some horror stories she had seen with people on weed and i began to feel it was all just weed and that i would be ok.
i realised it was probably the large amount i had smoked the previous night that was causing it and the small amount i smoked just triggered those effects much more. after talking to her for half hour i got up. i was woozy from the diazepan. stumbling about a bit. i got a drink and ate some pizza then passed out. woke up about 8 hours later. extremely happy to of survived the ordeal and be back to normal. still a bit woozy from the diazepan but happy.
I had no idea the effects would be so strong. iv taken mushrooms and salvia both were very intense but manageable. the weed sent me very close to going to the hospital and i really feared i would die. i dont know what weed it was. my friend said it was 'blue cheese' but i was clueless as to its strain or potency.
i did not have any visual hallucinations but i did have audio. i heard people knocking on the door. i went down to open the door and there was no one there. that happened twice.
heres a rather bad weed experience i had:
I had smoked small amount of weed, hash before. when it was passed around at parties. taking a puff or 2 then passing it on. feeling a bit buzzed. but never had a significant amount to smoke. recently i got about 5 grams from friend.
i was quite excited to try it but had to wait till my mother who i live with was out of the house. she departed and i got my bong and set to it in the garage. i smoked quite a lot. 3 bowls about a gram. didnt seem to do much s went back inside. 10 minutes later the effects hit me. first in the stomach like i was going to be sick then a panic. it happened again a few minutes later then i felt better. i became obsessed with trivial things. i spent about an hour looking for the tv remote then was joyed to find it but realised i didnt want to watch tv. i watched a film 'enter the void' which is about drug use and was loving the hallucinagenic scenes and trippy way the film is shot. then i passed out for about 8 hours. much less than i normally sleep.
the next day went pretty normal i drank a couple of beers. feeling a bit bored i thought id finish off the small amount of weed i had left. it was a very small amount 100mg maybe. i smoked it up in the small acrylic bong i had. wandered back inside. i sat down to play a game of fifa on the computer talking to a friend online. about 15 mins after smoking it i had a massive rush. in my stomach and head and huge anxiety. i said to my friend iv smoked some weed and feel terrible. he was not particularly concerned and after a minute i regained my composure we played a couple of games laughin a bit.. the third game we played about 15 mins after starting it hit me again in a huge body rush. this time much worse i mumbled i have to go and left the computer.
i got some cigarettes and went walking round the small town i have. it was better outside walking but i was still panicking and having to really focus on my breathing to keep the anxiety at bay. i walked for about 30 minutes but then felt thirsty so went back to the house to get some water. when i got back my friend online was still there. i told him i felt terrible like i was going to die. he was pretty blase. 'its just the weed. you over thinking it. you can turn this into a positive experience if you relax and dont panic'. this seemed pretty stupid to me there was no way to escape this horror other than waiting it out and hoping the effects would subside. i packed up some water and a coat and set out on my bike. i felt very tired but being still made my problems much worse. so i rode around the town. into fields not really knowing where the hell i was. concerned i might get lost but pushing on anyway as i felt i was doomed. felling very tired now after riding for maybe 40 minutes i found my way home. put the bike back and went inside. my friend had gone now off the computer and i didnt wanna sit back down. i went to bed.
it was nice being in bed comfortable. but my anxiety sky rocketed. i looked at the clock. 1:30 am. about 2 and a half hours since i smoked. my worry was that the weed was laced with something or that i had accidentally ingested something very toxic. i knew weed cant kill you. but thought i was in real peril and was due to smoking something else. i would lie down to rest but then feel like demons were pushing me down into the ground. id get up. go to the toilet, drink water and feel better. this cycle carried on for about a couple of hours. it was now about 6 hours since id smoked and i was still totally messed up. i thought this cant be weed. im gonna have to go to the hospital. which i really didnt want to do as they probably wouldnt take me seriously and it would cause a whole load of drama with my family. i got up went to the toilet then bit the bullet. i knocked on my sisters door. it was 4:20 am. she was hard to wake up but after repeatedly calling her name she woke up. i told her i was in a bad way. id smoked weed 6 hours ago and still felt awful. i felt better just talking to her. she gave me some diazepan. which i was nervous of taking in case it made me worse. she told me about some horror stories she had seen with people on weed and i began to feel it was all just weed and that i would be ok.
i realised it was probably the large amount i had smoked the previous night that was causing it and the small amount i smoked just triggered those effects much more. after talking to her for half hour i got up. i was woozy from the diazepan. stumbling about a bit. i got a drink and ate some pizza then passed out. woke up about 8 hours later. extremely happy to of survived the ordeal and be back to normal. still a bit woozy from the diazepan but happy.
I had no idea the effects would be so strong. iv taken mushrooms and salvia both were very intense but manageable. the weed sent me very close to going to the hospital and i really feared i would die. i dont know what weed it was. my friend said it was 'blue cheese' but i was clueless as to its strain or potency.
i did not have any visual hallucinations but i did have audio. i heard people knocking on the door. i went down to open the door and there was no one there. that happened twice.