Urgent; MDMA/Molly test results - unexpected! What is this?

[glittergal7]

Got some "molly" from a friend and used my EZ test tubes to test it. I cut open one capsule and used half of the powder in it in these tubes.

The powder is off white with little rocks and crystals in it.

Here is some photos of my test results.

The vials are as follows:

Tube #1 from the left is Marquis reagent (EZ test ecstasy)
Tube #2 from the left is Mandelin reagent (EZ test ketamine)
Tube #3 from the left is Mecke reagent (EZ test opiates)
Tube #4 from the left is bath salts EZ test
Tube #5 is MCPP EZ test

Apparently the marquis reagent test turned yellow which suggests methylone/butylone. The Mandelin reagent turned dark reddish brown which suggests PMA/PMMA according to the instructions. At first it was a yellow color before turning dark red/brown. The Mecke reagent turned dark brown (no clue what this is). The EZ bath salt test turned dark brown reddish color which is consistent with the methylone results in the instructions. The last test, MCPP, turned yellow which according to the instructions, is mCPP/TfMPP.

Is this methylone?

Here are the EZ test results:

Thanks for your help. Quick response appreciated as these were suppose to be taken tonight.

 

[Dmytry]

according to some posts ive seen by folley the only tests worth anything are the marquis, mandellin, simons, and mecke, and that a lot of the newer tests by eztest arent too accurate, but i dont have personal experiance with them.

from marquis alone its some type of bathsalt, and not mdma. from the other tests, the dealer may have mixed in other drugs to make it last longer or make it more psychedelic. either way, its not mdma, and the rules state no substance identification because its near impossible to tell you exactly whats in your "molly". maybe try to get your money back and find a new dealer

edit: it doesnt say it on the card, but mecke changes yellow>brown with bathsalts (from personal experience). check out this thread by theazo

 

[Darksidesam]

Well according to your test kit instructions it could be 6-apb and as you ask methylone as well as of course the dangerous PMA on the mandelin.

If i don't get a nice reaction i like on the mandelin or marquis i wouldn't take it.

 

[glittergal7]

Well according to your test kit instructions it could be 6-apb and as you ask methylone as well as of course the dangerous PMA on the mandelin.

If i don't get a nice reaction i like on the mandelin or marquis i wouldn't take it.

That's interesting. I was thinking possibly PMA too. Ugh. This is so frustrating. Is there anywhere where I can find how 6-apb reacts? I can't seem to find much on testing it.

 

[eLW]

I dont get it. Why put PMA in drugs at all! Give me some non-active, ok. But not PMA!!! Its like selling pill off death. Why do they even synthesize that shit. Horrible!

 

[glittergal7]

I dont get it. Why put PMA in drugs at all! Give me some non-active, ok. But not PMA!!! Its like selling pill off death. Why do they even synthesize that shit. Horrible!

On second thought, I don't think it is PMA. I found this site: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25771

and it shows:

Paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA)
Marquis - effervescence no reaction - (porcelain) - (36)
Mecke - lime/green - (porcelain) - (36)
Mandelin - effervescence green->red/brown - (porcelain) - (36)

My marquis was yellow. Mandelin and Mecke were red/brown. So the only one consistent with PMA is the mandelin reagent.

MDPV, MDPPP, Methylone, Butylone:
Marquis - yellow
Mecke - red-brown
Mandellin - clear
Robadope - Negative
Simons - MDPPP/MDPV Negative, Methylone/Butylone Positive

My Marquis and Mecke were consistent with methylone. The "EZ test bath salts" one was also consistent with methylone. At this point, I am going to assume it's most likely methylone with something else thrown in there which threw off the Mandelin test?

 

[Dmytry]

That's interesting. I was thinking possibly PMA too. Ugh. This is so frustrating. Is there anywhere where I can find how 6-apb reacts? I can't seem to find much on testing it.

6-apb turns a purply/brown-ish with marquis, and black with mecke

 

[glittergal7]

6-apb turns a purply/brown-ish with marquis, and black with mecke

Oh well I didnt have those results so that cant be the case but aren't those the results you get with MDxx? So how can one possibly know the difference..

 

[Folley]

This looks like a cathinone (methylone, mephedrone, MDPV or MPA) mixed with an MDxx substance to me.

The mecke and mandelin reagents are more sensitive to MDMA than the marquis is, that's why those have a reaction but it doesn't. At any rate, your sample is highly adulterated and I wouldn't take it if someone paid me $100

Oh well I didnt have those results so that cant be the case but aren't those the results you get with MDxx? So how can one possibly know the difference..

It's very hard. 6-APB is extremely close structure wise to MDA, so they give very similar reactions. 6-APB has more of a purple reaction than MDMA does though, that's usually more blackish.

A simons reagent would be able to tell you, 6-APB should react negatively to it and MDMA would react positive



Reagent questions belong in the Pill Repots Q&A section though, a mod might move it there if they ever see this.




Oh, now I see. You've posted two different threads. That's a big no-no here on Bluelight, please refrain from doing that in the future.

 

[glittergal7]

This looks like a cathinone (methylone, mephedrone, MDPV or MPA) mixed with an MDxx substance to me.

The mecke and mandelin reagents are more sensitive to MDMA than the marquis is, that's why those have a reaction but it doesn't. At any rate, your sample is highly adulterated and I wouldn't take it if someone paid me $100




It's very hard. 6-APB is extremely close structure wise to MDA, so they give very similar reactions. 6-APB has more of a purple reaction than MDMA does though, that's usually more blackish.

A simons reagent would be able to tell you, 6-APB should react negatively to it and MDMA would react positive



Reagent questions belong in the Pill Repots Q&A section though, a mod might move it there if they ever see this.




Oh, now I see. You've posted two different threads. That's a big no-no here on Bluelight, please refrain from doing that in the future.

I apologize - I wasnt aware and I was desperate to get someone's opinion. So we figured it was probably methylone. My friend dropped half and felt fine, very similar to MDMA except more "relaxed" as she put it. She smoked some weed with it and seemed to be fine so a little later, I dropped half as well. Here's how t went:

- dropped at 10:20pm
- 10:45 starting to feel something
- 11:00 definitely feel the coming up, very very similar to MDMA we took in the past but a little less nausea/stomach upset
- 11:15 sat down for a bit and feeling good - have the whole diminished negative feelings and strong feeling of happiness, self confidence, compassion. at this point lights look pretty to look at. my pupils are very dilated. my heart rate has definitely increased. but i feel good and love everyone. and i am very talkative.
- 11:30 continue feeling good but have no desire to get up and do anything physical. in the past i have dropped and gone to raves and danced the whole night but now i almost feel stuck to the lounge sofa i am sitting on. i start noticing my teeth clenching and my mouth/lips are very dry. all of this continues until 1:00am
-1:00am i start feeling like i am coming up again for a few minutes followed by a come down for a few minutes and the cycle repeats. very unusual. not sure whats going on. start feeling some slight negative feelings - boredom, no longer feel like talking.
-1:30am coming down. i slowly begin to feel more and more sober. which makes me very unhappy because its so early in the night.
-1:45am definitely coming down and started to feel depressed about it
-2am i have to urinate (usually never feel the need to go while on MDMA till after ive come down). i feel cranky and irritable. my neck starts hurting.
-2:30am everything looks normal and my pupils are no longer dilated. i am completely sober again and quieter than usual.

so in conclusion, i dont know what i took. it might be methylone judging by the test results we got. my other friend dropped a whole pill just before me and had the same exact events happen to him. so i know that my short high cannot be attributed to only taking half. (i'm a tiny girl with no tolerance for anything anyway.) whatever it was, it caused very similar effects to MDMA (jaw clenching, pupil dilation, euphoria, analgesia, intensification of bodily senses, enhancement of musical and visual appreciation) but there was definitely no hyperactivity and it lasted much shorter. the last time i dropped MDMA at 930pm and i was good until 2 am ish when i started coming down and didnt feel completely sober until 330am. this time i dropped whatever was in this molly at 1020pm and was completely sober by 230am so only 4 hours for it to kick in, come up, plateau, and come down. sounds bunk to me.

oh and another strange thing is by the time i got home at 3am, i was ready to knock out and completely fell asleep very rapidly which has always been difficult for me after MDMA.

 

[Folley]

..... are you serious?


What's the point of getting a test kit if you're going to take bunk shit anyways. Seriously... like, what?

 

[laugh]

it doesnt appear bunk, though, rather cut and/or not mdma. i bought my kit to know what i got, not to throw stuff away that is not what i originally thought it was. maybe im nitpicking. lol.

 

[Folley]

^ if you look at the first (and most important) reagent, the marquis, it is very clear this is an adulterated substance.

If you take adulterated drugs, even if you test them to know what they are before, you'll never have a chance of finding the real shit.


You're giving you dealer money for his drugs, he doesn't care if you take it or not... he just wants the money. If you take his bunk shit, why would he ever go through the hassle of getting good drugs?

That's basically why the American market is completely fucked up, people settle for the shittier drugs so the good ones practically get phased out of existence

 

[laugh]

who said anything about going back to repeat purchase?

 

[glittergal7]

^ if you look at the first (and most important) reagent, the marquis, it is very clear this is an adulterated substance.

If you take adulterated drugs, even if you test them to know what they are before, you'll never have a chance of finding the real shit.


You're giving you dealer money for his drugs, he doesn't care if you take it or not... he just wants the money. If you take his bunk shit, why would he ever go through the hassle of getting good drugs?

That's basically why the American market is completely fucked up, people settle for the shittier drugs so the good ones practically get phased out of existence

First of all.. The person I purchase from is not the person making the MDMA. He gets the pills from someone else who gets them from someone else and so forth. There are a million middle men in this operation and the pills go through many hands before getting to mine. None of these people know what was put in the pills initially. They just get it from someone for others or get it in bulk to resell for a profit. It is not the fault of the person I got these from.. he did not make them and he as well tried them before getting some for me. When I told him I was going to test them, he himself was interested to know what was in it. If I could go directly to the person who was making them then maybe I could do something about it by telling them, hey i am going to test this so i will buy one for now and if it is good, i will buy more. Ideally, that would be what I would do. If the dealer knew his shit was good and he didn't adulterate it or add other stuff to it, then he should be fine and comfortable with my plan. But unfortunately, all of my contacts seem to be as clueless as me as to what they're taking and selling..

 

[glittergal7]

..... are you serious?


What's the point of getting a test kit if you're going to take bunk shit anyways. Seriously... like, what?

I wasn't going to take it initially after the test results... My friend felt confident it was methylone and had no problem ingesting it, so she took ~60mg. It wasn't until hours after she had ingested it and reported positive effects and an hour after another friend ingested ~120mg and was fine that I decided I would give 60mg a shot. Unfortunately for me and my friend who ingested the 120mg, the effects were very short lived. My friend who took it first smoked weed with it and seemed to have better luck - possibly attributed to the smoking, i really don't know.

Unfortunately for me, I attempted to obtain MDMA from someone else later in the evening and I have a second post about those test results which seemed to point towards something methy. I refused to take those but another friend of mine, who knew the test results, insisted she wanted to try it and later reported that she had similar to MDMA effects but felt much more "speedy".. so my prediction made on the test results that it was something meth related were probably accurate. Regardless, I don't feel comfortable taking meth and that is why I got rid of those pills.

Anyways, my conclusion is that I did not purchase a test kit to just take all the bunk shit I get anyway. I got the test kit so I can be informed of what I am taking if I do decide to take it and so that I can make a somewhat informed decision when I decide to drop. I don't appreciate your judgement considering I was just asking for others' opinions on what the test results might have meant.