Suicidal thoughts while tripping?

I was just trippin on mxe today and had the exact opposite experience. I felt so enthusiastic about life that I actually cried....Im being serious. Of course that faded but I have to say I've never felt suicidal on anything besides alcohol which doesnt really qualify as tripping.
 
Despite in the past having a huge issue with suicidal ideation, I've never have the thoughts specifically when under the effects of a psychedelic.
 
One of my friend's guiding principles when tripping: REMEMBER THAT IT'LL WEAR OFF.
Take note of time of ingestion and ride that fucker out...keep your wits...you'll feel better tomorrow.
And, your friends and family won't end up seeing you on bestgore.com. Etc.

Also, breath and fight your way through it. Maybe, it's a lesson...but you're not getting the point.
"Don't do this drug again. Ever." or
"Why do I feel that way? Why are you telling me I should do this? What about my life sucks so much?"
And the like...





Always helped my friend.
 
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its a test. when you think about it life is such a fine line between sane and insane...
 
No, and if you are having these thoughts you need to stop taking psychedelics ASAP. Not to preach but suicidal thoughts are a medical emergency and could easily become something worse under the influence of drugs. Plus, what fun is it to feel like that?

I get a strange "this is what death must feel like" sensation from psychedelics, so I rarely use them. There are other drugs out there that DON'T make me feel like crap. The same is probably true for OP.
 
to tell u the truth shrooms sometimes have made me quite hostile/suicidal, i would sometimes get very distraught emotionally and just want to slit my wrists. thats a fucked up thing to say. alot of the other times i can be jovial and sometimes even empowered feeling or as one said a "life affirming experience." dont know what the fuck is up with that. dont think i have ever felt overwhelming suicidal on disassociatives though.

What about MXE made u feel that way?
 
Nah, like someone else said I used to have suicidal thoughts a lot, but tripping effectively cut them out of my life. Realising that 'life is meaningless' has only helped me want to live it to the max. I am still comfortable and unafraid of death, but my attitude has changed so that I just ensure I'm ready for when it comes, as opposed to seeking it out in order to escape the pain of existence, a pain I still feel sometimes but have learned to deal with.
 
DMT improved my outlook on life and death the most, it has made me unafraid to some extent yet I still care. (Had some issues shaking nihilism for a while though, it can be easy to take that 'putting things in perspective' stuff one step too far.)

About suicidal thoughts: well in my early days of tripping I abused the hell out of mushrooms. I didn't know how to deal with the type of experience and felt pretty tortured from time to time. Still I continued taking it because the existential crisis I had gotten myself into was lacking any relief, and desperate times call for desperate measures I guess. During the torturing trips I mentioned, every now and again the thought popped into my mind that I wanted some escape button to it all. Like jumping out of the window (which was nonsense because I lived at the 2nd floor at the time). I realized it was not a valid option and never really considered it as something I actually might do. It was mostly a signal that there was something unbearable about being that lost.

Honestly I think it is a healthy part of life to having considered all options. By that I don't mean really being actively suicidal, but realizing that this is something people may do when stuff gets so bad that absolutely everything points to a sustained situation that is unacceptable. Passive suicidal ideation tends to be a part of depression (even transient depression if something utterly shitty happens) and I think it is a natural part of life to feel utterly shitty every now and then, if only to know the full spectrum of emotion so that you can value the bright side even that much more.

Please put what I said in perspective and realize that I think active suicidal ideation should still raise all alarms and be considered a call/cry for help. Also I think people may sometimes be unable to look ahead past their depressed feelings even if realistically things can be expected to be mended. Even if essentially everyone should hold the choice to live or die themselves (IMO), it is an unimaginable shame if someone were to make that choice based on the presumption that things can't be helped... when they actually could be.

I was contacted online by a guy a few years ago, who was in a situation that sounded like permanent hell: mysophobic OCD, autism, a very painful case of scoliosis or something similar, utterly isolated and abandoned. He was absolutely terrified at the idea of his brain being infected by bacteria. He was past help apparently, the only thing "help" would do if they were contacted was drug him up and lock him up - essentially things that made it worse if anything. He asked me for methods on suicide, talking about wanting to OD on MDMA and that sort of thing. It was very hard for me to decide how to handle it ethically. I decided I would not actively aid his euthanasia but I have helped him avoid painful methods and ones bound to be unsuccessful, explaining how some things like MDMA ODing would probably be different than he imagined. He stopped contacting me around the time he planned on ending it, so best I can tell he pulled it off.

PD >> TDS

(Dear people at TDS: if you consider contacting TS (OP) to help him or her, first check his post history to evaluate credibility.

If this isn't the kind of thing suitable for TDS, feel free to undo the move)
 
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