Oxycodone and Opana ir

[Jayre73]

Hi everyone out there. This is my first post so please forgive any issues with placement of it. I have also searched through many posts trying to find an answer to this specific question and have had little luck locating anything. That's not saying I didnt miss something so, by all means, if this is the case please point me in the correct direction. Now to my issue.

I normally take IR oxycodone (daily) 90-120 mgs. My preferred ROA is nasal and I usually do it in 15-20 mg doses. Recently, I received 5mg IR Opana. Does anyone know what a safe dose (while still using nasal ROA) would be? I have read that Opana is anywhere from 4x to 10x stronger then oxycodone nasally and there seems to be a lot of differing reports. I plan to start small anyway, maybe 2.5 mg, but I was just looking for some advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

The problem is that it's so different for everyone, that's probably why you hear so many different opinions. Just start with a really small amount like 1mg, so you can get an idea how strong it is for you - you can always take more. I haven't snorted oxymorphone (Opana) myself but I've heard that it can be a lot stronger than oxycodone, like more than 10x stronger even. One person here on Bluelight who has extensive experience snorting both and sounded like they knew what they were talking about said when snorted oxymorphone was 8-12 times stronger than snorted oxycodone. So for 15-20mg oxycodone that could be a range between 1.25-2.5mg oxymorphone. You might be one of those people who doesn't find it that strong, but you might not so it's a way better idea to start with too little than too much.

 

[Jayre73]

Thanks for the reply Swimming. I never thought of it as such (that many different people getting different effects) as opposed to that many people wanting to be an authority on something. As an update, though, I took your advice and
Started at (around) 1.25 mgs. I waited a bit and when it wasn't where I wanted I did the other 1.5 and felt some noticeable effects actually. Thank you, again, for your help and making this safer for me (and everyone).

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Glad it worked out for you

Frequently people don't realize that everyone is different when it comes to drug absorption/metabolism and so they assume that something they experienced will apply to everyone. (Probably people want to be an authority too though )

Have a good night

 

[oxie]

From personal experience i have found opana is like 2 times stronger than oxycododne. This is just my opinion though.
I have some opana 10s and tonite ill swallow some of those and some oxys and report back.
I will rail some opana also

 

[opium]

it IS stronger.
i used to use hydro's (Vicoden)
Then i started to use hydromorphone, which is vike-morphine

Hell of a lot stronger. HELL of a lot.

Like everyone above has said, start off small. You can always do more, but you cant take it away once its up your nose

 

[Jayre73]

Thank you all for the replies. They are all very helpful. I agree with the start small and go from there theory. The main issue, and point of confusin, was that while most sources I've read say that oxymorphone is 2x as strong as oxycodone orally, sniffing had such a wide disparity between reports. It just kind of threw me off a bit as too what would be safe. Another thing, for people looking to try oxymorph IR, is that the line between feeling nothing, feeling great or feeling sick seems to be a very thin one (at least for myself). So becareful, be catious and be safe.

 

[opium]

Thank you all for the replies. They are all very helpful. I agree with the start small and go from there theory. The main issue, and point of confusin, was that while most sources I've read say that oxymorphone is 2x as strong as oxycodone orally, sniffing had such a wide disparity between reports. It just kind of threw me off a bit as too what would be safe. Another thing, for people looking to try oxymorph IR, is that the line between feeling nothing, feeling great or feeling sick seems to be a very thin one (at least for myself). So becareful, be catious and be safe.

good point

 

[oxie]

From personal experience i have found opana is like 2 times stronger than oxycododne. This is just my opinion though.
I have some opana 10s and tonite ill swallow some of those and some oxys and report back.
I will rail some opana also

After railing opana last nite and paying as close attention as i could for the results, personally IMO its twice as strong as oxy.

 

[Hiltoniano]

I think opana is around 5-6x stronger than oxycodone intranasal. I have solid exp with both an my friends do as well, they agree. I use about 30-45mg oxycodone, and one 5mg ir oxymorphone gets me floored. 2.5mg gives me a moderately strong buzz. It's strong shit.

 

[Hobble]

I second what Hiltoniano said. It would be dangerous to assume that any form of nasal oxymorphone is only twice as strong as oxycodone. Maybe the new Opana's and/or the generics absorb so poorly that sometimes you don't get all of it, who knows?

In my experience with the old octagon shaped Opana's they are probably at least 6 times stronger than oxycodone. I am on Suboxone now but at the peak of my addiction I needed 15 - 20mg nasal oxymorphone to get high or at least 120mg of oral oxycodone to get similar effects.

According to the conversion chart I usually use, oral oxymorphone is twice as strong as oral oxycodone. Since oral oxymorphone has a bioavailability of only 10% and nasal oxymorphone has a bioavailability of about 30 - 40%, that means nasal oxymorphone should be about 6 to 8 times stronger than oral oxycodone.

Conversion chart: http://www.globalrph.com/opioidconverter2.htm

 

[nasty2037]

The Ir And Er Have two different fillers and comeup on the test strip completely different
Best thing to reschedule if you can or get the proper opiates man.Hope this helps

 

[luckyshot04]

I want to give you just a few quick tips of advice (as I have used Opana extensively over the last year and 1/2). Although I haven't mixed the two but a handful of times (no need to ), I can give you some sound advice on Opana.

I built up a tolerance of around 80 mg's (ROA-Nasal) on Opana for about sixty days. I can tell you that the comedown on this (with subs) was hellish. You may start out small with Opana, but you will probably enjoy the effects enough to start upping your dose, which will be skyhigh before you know it.

One other point I want to make about mixing them is this....If you do enough Opana, IMO, oxycodone is like taking a damn tylenol. I don't think you'll go haywire doing small amounts of Opana as you suggested, but please, be very careful. Opana is serious, serious, fucking shit. I have been hooked on these things longer than I want to and they are damn hard to quit. The buzz is just too good.

Keep your Opana dose small. I'm not going to tell you not to mix it, I'm afraid that will make you want to anyway. Just keep the Opana dose small, see how it affects you. If it were me, I'd be more inclined to hammer down on the Opana to get the buzz going and save the oxy for a rainy day.

Stay safe!

 

[BeachBum4u]

I second what Hiltoniano said. It would be dangerous to assume that any form of nasal oxymorphone is only twice as strong as oxycodone. Maybe the new Opana's and/or the generics absorb so poorly that sometimes you don't get all of it, who knows?

In my experience with the old octagon shaped Opana's they are probably at least 6 times stronger than oxycodone. I am on Suboxone now but at the peak of my addiction I needed 15 - 20mg nasal oxymorphone to get high or at least 120mg of oral oxycodone to get similar effects.

According to the conversion chart I usually use, oral oxymorphone is twice as strong as oral oxycodone. Since oral oxymorphone has a bioavailability of only 10% and nasal oxymorphone has a bioavailability of about 30 - 40%, that means nasal oxymorphone should be about 6 to 8 times stronger than oral oxycodone.

Conversion chart: http://www.globalrph.com/opioidconverter2.htm

I have been on both of these for some time and I can tell you this post hits it on the head. Orally 2x, but add the nasal part and it jumps. Great Post!

 

[werk2play]

Be "extremely" careful with the Opana IR, that stuff can kill you and I mean literally. I had some 30mg IR pills and I had a very little to no tolerance at the time and I would rail about 25-33% and be higher than taking an 30mg Roxi. You have to watch it.

The problem with Opana is, it will take your tolerance up like a rocket. This is not good for anyone obviously. Sure is fun stuff but because of what it does to your tolerance with most people, it's important to heed this warning and probably steer clear of it altogether. It's also the most expensive narcotic.