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Benzos Benzos and sleep eating?

llama112

llama112

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My boyfriend and I were partying the other night and we did some 4-FA. Then we took benzos (Valium) to get to sleep. I feel asleep almost instantly (about 1 PM). My boyfriend says he did not fall asleep from the first Valium so he took a second one and fell asleep.

My bf also got a few of these Halloween chocolate things the other day. When I woke up at 7:30 PM, I went to the kitchen to have a drink and there were about 10 of the chocolate wrappers in the garbage. I figured he had gotten hungry and eaten them. I couldn't get back to sleep right away so I went on my computer and at about 9 PM he woke up and asked me if I had eaten the chocolates. I know I hadn't so I told him that I hadn't had any of the chocolates (except one of them, when he brought them home the other day). He said he hadn't had them either.

We live in our own apartment, so it obviously had to be one of us. Is sleeping eating on benzos something that happens?

The other thing is that he could just not be admitting it was him. Other food has "disappeared" in our apartment so I'm wondering if he a) isn't admitting that he's eating all this stuff (which I don't mind if he eats it ... as long as he doesn't blame it on me and tell me I'm eating all the food, which I'm not) or b) he sleep eats often, like when he's not on benzos (he uses other things to sleep sometimes like GHB, diphenhydromine, melotonin).

I have never had problems with sleep walking or sleep eating before. I have insomnia but, once I'm asleep, I stay asleep, and that's all. The only time I did something in my sleep was when I was on GHB and I just went to the washroom and my bf mentioned that I woke him up when I left the bedroom but I don't remember that. My bf has had a problem with sleep eating before although he "doesn't remember it". (I have a really good memory, he doesn't have a great memory all the time.)

So sleep eating on benzos ... is this common?

Not sure if this is in the right forum, because there may be more issues than just sleep eating on benzos, but I think it should start out here?
 
I'm not sure about anyone else but myself, and my brother that also uses benzos, but we both experience this sleep eating phenomenon. In my case it could possibly be attributed to the fact that benzos are great anti-emetics and generally stimulate appetite, waking or not, in a similar way as cannabis.
It's also an inhibition thing, while on benzos your critical thinking faculties are diminished and you tend not to think about the actions you are taking. Plus food tastes great while in my dose.
 
Although this isn't related to benzos, do you think similar things happen while on sleeping pills with diphenhydromine? My bf takes those sometimes. (We take benzos rarely.) Maybe he sleep eats on those too?

Edit: He actually doesn't take diphenydromine much. This sleep eating thing doesn't happen often, but I know it happened last Monday night too.

Are there other drugs that would cause sleep eating? Maybe weed? I'm not sure. I'm trying to get to the root of this problem. I'm kind of annoyed that this food keeps disappearing from the fridge and he claims it's not him. I have to hide food sometimes so he doesn't eat it. I know for sure that the benzos caused it last night but now I'm trying to figure out what else could have caused it. It's not like it happens all the time.
 
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idk i don't black out on benzes, they make me hungry tho..
It's possible i could eat in my sleep but i usually eat 2-3 hours before bed to settle my appetite before sleeep.
 
when i first started using benzos, abusing benzos
i had went to sleep, woke up to everything in the fridge placed out on the counters..
they can make you hungry, they can make you forget, i don't see why not
of course this was nearing 10mg xanax for a completely naive nub
 
Yes they do.
It's because your subconscious that gets an eating idea, but your conscious mind is in no state to argue.
That is why hypnotics cause sleep eating and any other unwise ideas.
 
Thanks for all the responses!
The Valiums were 10 mg each. We take them 1-2 times a month so not much tolerance. But still - I can't see how I (on 10 mg) or my bf (on 20 mg) would black out and sleep eat. I mean, I was at a party once, took acid, had a bad trip, took two Valiums (so 20 mg) and kept partying.
When I woke up, I also noticed that the water in the kitchen was running. I quickly turned it off, but I found that weird too.

I'm a bit worried that, if he's sleep eating, that he could be doing something more dangerous as well. It seems like he slept-ate my bday cake on Monday as well but we did not do benzos then, so maybe this isn't even a benzo issue. I'm so confused! lol
 
If you/he can afford it, I suggest getting a sleep study done. Sleep walking, eating, driving can be very dangerous. This is now a medical priority if it is occurring as frequently as you report. Even eating while in a compromised state can be fatal, due to choking hazard or ingesting a non-etible substance.
 
Benzos can cause serious retrograde amnesia, so it seems to me more likely that you or your boyfriend ate the chocolates while awake and benzo'd up and forgot doing so, than that either of you ate them while asleep. When I first got hold of etizolam I'd often have little memory of (perfectly normal) things I'd do before going to sleep. In fact once I found evidence in the kitchen one morning that I'd made and eaten a sandwich before bed with no memory of having done so - and that was on only 2mg (with zero tolerance). So I'd say there's your answer.
 
I've been on benzos (trying to taper...having some trouble with it, despite a good doc), for a couple of years - and in the early stages of addiction, after taking some midazolam and xanax with a beer or three (not clever, I know), I fell asleep...or so I thought. I woke up to find I'd been out to the 24hr McDonalds, and managed to eat two Big Macs and a Quarter pounder. I had/have no memory of going out, ordering, walking home or eating (and why no fries?O. More commonly, I'd 'wake up' mentally fast asleep, and semi-consciously raid the cupboards if there was nothing appealing in the drug box. I knew it was a bad sign when I started waking up with a couple of half-smoked joints in my bedclothes, empty boxes of bran flakes and little trails of cookie crumbs, et cetera.

Amnesia's common with benzos: and sometimes they can cause spectacularly bizarre behaviour when taken on stimulant comedowns. I had some very weird, hallucinatory experiences from using lorazepam and temazepam to come down off of speed and MDMA. Approximately nothing's known about the interaction of 4-FA and benzos, but as a general rule, the more ups in you when you take diaz, the higher the likelihood of neurochemical chaos and strange/forgotten/even psychotic behaviour.

So he may well have eaten them while blacked out, and genuinely believe himself to be innocent.
 
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Everyone reacts to substances differently. I know someone who would do bizarre shit (such as peeing off the bed right onto the floor, and when he was asked "what are you doing?!" simply replied "peeing on the floor"...) on dextromethorphan. So sleep eating wouldn't be out of the question at all, especially if he has a low tolerance when it comes to benzos.

Last year a friend of mine recommended I take one 2mg klonopin (Clonazepam) when I was in withdrawal from heroin. I had never experimented with them prior, so I took his advice rather blindly. When I woke up the next morning I had no recollection of what I did last evening. My friend had to fill me in with pretty much everything, including spending the rest of the little bit of money I had on dope. When I woke up, I called to check my balance at the bank and it was like "You have...zero dollars and...twelve cents." I was horrified. And that was the only time I ever blacked out on any substance funny enough.
 
That is weird, I've been on Valium, an Xanax in the past and never had any sleep waking episodes (at least not to my knowledge). I've heard of people sleep walking and doing weird shit in general while taking Lunesta and other sleeping meds like that but never on benzo's. Everybody acts differently to things so it's totally possible one of you were sleep walking and ate a shit ton of candy an just didn't realize it. Wish I could be more help but that is just my experience on benzo's. Hope you can solve the mystery of the eaten candy lol.

Mike =D
 
All I'm gonna say on the topic is that weed munchies ain't got shit on bar munchies lol...

And yes, it's very easy to "sleep eat" on benzos. Though they aren't benzos, z-drugs like ambien and lunesta cause the same phenomenon, and I've read reports of people spending way more money than they had on stuff online lol. I personally have woken up (from the first few times I did xanax) with all my money gone, heaps of fast food everywhere, all my cigarettes gone, and all my weed gone.

I think the reason this happens is when you sleep, you spend a lot less time in Stage 3/4 sleep while on benzos-well most of them anyway.
 
I think it's a strong possibility the benzos caused him to eat and not remember. Almost every time I take a benzo above therapeutic doses I can't remember the majority of what happens. Not only that but they cause really weird behavior sometimes
 
I've been Rx'ed diazepam for over two years, and I've personally never done anything weird in my sleep while on them, granted, I take them for anxiety not insomnia and do have a fair tolerance. If anxiety strikes near bedtime though I take them then and still nothing odd.

Perhaps it had something to do with using them for a stim comedown, so a full sleep wasn't produced for him.

In general though, any benzo I've ever been on seems to increase my appetite during waking hours, which still more or less sucks imo. But you take the good with the bad I suppose.
 
tricomb said:
It's very common. I don't sleep eat per se, but my hypnotic benzodiazepines usually give me the munchies.
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Hey Tricomb, I know I stated earlier in the tread that I was on both Valium an Xanax for quite sometime and never experienced any sleep walking or anything of that nature. However while I was on them I distinctly remember going down and fixing different things to eat late at night (as I'd generally take them before sleep or when I wanted to sleep). It usually happened around the 1 hour mark after taking them, you would think that it would be the time you'd be getting real heavy eyed, but nope not me. I'd be heading toward the kitchen to make some Mac & Cheese or Top Ramen....something of that nature, so your right about it giving you the munchies. At least it did for me, I know everyone is different but that is spot on for what I'd be doing after taking them. Usually then after my belly was nice in full it was Zzzzzz time.

Mike ;)
 
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