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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

TRIP REPORT

Beauty & the Beast were excited to have been granted the opportunity to explore some 6-APB!

Beauty is a twentysomething 5.8”, 135lb

The Beast is a thirtysomething 5.11”, 150lb.

The Beast considers these experiences to be akin to going on vacation (& are often superior to trips like that), which he receives with gratitude & as an opportunity to explore dimensions of reality which are rarely unpleasant & often fantastical, like visits to another world.

The setting was the Beast’s lair, which is actually very nice. The 6-APB was finely ground, slightly off-white, with a light medicinal scent.

T0.00 (1.45pm) – Beauty had a bowl of cereal and few bites of an apple an hour ago. The Beast had an empty stomach, having not eaten since the previous evening. Beauty drank a measured 50mg with half a cup of purified water, mixed with a silver spoon. 6-APB didn’t completely dissolve, so another dash of water went into the glass to mop up any stray grains. Tasted medicinal, not too bad. The Beast drank a measured 75mg with water. Tasted foul, needed a sweeter drink to be rid of the flavour. The two relaxed for an hour, a little excited & expectant, asking each other if anything could be felt. Beauty impatiently wanted to do more. The Beast cautioned it was always best to be moderate with something new, especially if it was ones first trip into the Phenethylamine world, which can get very intense.

T1.00 – Feeling warm & giddy, Beauty & the Beast drank another measured 50mg & 60 mg respectively. The Beast could hear an extra sibilance to his voice that always came with an MDMA “come-up”. He expected perhaps an hour of euphoria (at best) & then lots of energy.

T1.15 – The Beast suggested to go outside to see if it could be used as a baseline to measure the high. Still excitable & expectant, the two were not yet close to the high. As they changed their clothes to go out, they decided it as better to lay on the bed in a close embrace.

T1.30 to 6.30 – Beauty and the Beast felt very connected, expressed their tender feelings & made love for a long time. Over the next hour (T2.30), the high intensified to a peak which didn’t decline until roughly 6.30, enhancing their sensual & uinhibited pleasuring of each other. This was contrary to the Beast’s expectations of a brief high with a sharp decline, followed by wish to dance to techno while chewing gum. Orgasm was not the object of the Beasts desire (nor was it ever attained, as is typical with his previous Phenethylamine experience), but the intimate sharing of each other was beautifully enjoyed. The Beast was languid, patient & open to listening, hardly speaking (unusual for the Beast), but very empathetic. Because she no longer felt any inhibitions, Beauty unleashed her full feelings of passion upon the excited Beast. These were hours spent in a warm bed, covered in bright sunshine from outside, with a shameless, forgiving & sincere passion that would have been very difficult (though not impossible) to achieve sober. Both felt warm to the touch & were sweating a little more than to be expected. Beauty & the Beast noticed that upon standing, there was a woozy, almost drunken feeling that was pleasant, but ensured some funny clumsiness. This was a delightful time!

T6.30 - Though it was about 8.30pm, the Beast suggested re-dosing. The comedown was not hard, but it was very tempting to maintain the afternoon’s enhancement of easy & pleasurable intimacy. Beauty accepted & drank a measured 50mg & the Beast chugged another 50mg. Both took Tylenol to get rid of a dull headache (a small price to pay for a very beautiful experience – though the headache may have been more simply explained by the fact that neither had consumed any food, having had little appetite).

T7.00 to T11.00 – Still in bed & very cosy, it became clear to Beauty & the Beast why Phenethylamines had been used in therapy, including therapy for couples. The Beast could no longer maintain an erection & the two contemplated using Viagra next time. Again, it was not important for the Beast to climax, but the sense of being intimately connected was strongly desired by both. Regardless, the two stayed physically close & Beauty was able to talk to the Beast about difficult matters that had dealt her a lot of pain & uncertainty. The Beast gently encouraged her to share & though Beauty relived some pain & shed tears, they were both glad about what had been disclosed, the sincere reassurances that were given by the Beast & Beauty’s sense of being relieved of a burden. Beauty & the Beast both knew that this was not a magic bullet for pain & that this was just the beginning of coping with past hurts – but it was still seen as a breakthrough, one which months of ordinary therapy hadn’t achieved. Note that no therapy had been intended – Beauty’s personal pain had been shared spontaneously, out of recognition of the Beast’s attentive attitude & an overall sense of the safe atmosphere of intimacy.

T11.00-T12.00 – The mild & not disappointing comedown would have been made easier by substances like GBL or cannabis. However, there was no source for the former & the latter was a drug the Beast had been addicted to & had forsworn for the past 2 years. Both experienced some mild jaw-clenching & were grateful for gum. Beauty experienced mild anxiety, perhaps due to the fact that she had made herself vulnerable in sharing difficult things, plus the excess energy from the 6-APB that would keep her awake for another few hours, plus that neither she nor the Beast had eaten all day (but had been drinking plenty of water). Good food was consumed at this point & an episode of a mutually favourite TV show was played to establish a light-hearted normalcy. Beauty & the Beast talked about the experience of the day, which was conclusively deemed beautiful, warm, valuable & insightful.

T14.00 – Feeling fairly normal (but not baseline) Beauty had no regrets about her sharing. The sense of relief would continue into the next day & was not haunted by shame or guilt. Beauty tends to fall asleep with ease & drifted into sleep still above baseline. It took the Beast until T16.30 to fall into a light & frequently disturbed sleep. Some sleeping aid might have made things easier, but regardless of the tiredness, stiffness & headache the next day (which 1 ordinary Tylenol dealt with) Beauty & the Beast remained grateful for & pleased with their experience. Beauty decided that 100mg would be enough for next time. The Beast considers this to be one of the finest Phenethylamines, better than MDMA, MDA & even 2CB. Both are very much looking forward to their next experience.
 
<3 ^^6-apb is magic. @150mg+ it tends to become mindblowingly good. for me it provided an euphoria I thought was only achievable by high-dose psychedelics (/dissociatives combo..).
but in contrast and addition to psychedelics with 6-apb there is a deep and lucid(!) connection to your surroundings (maintaining and even strengthening some definition of self. "true self", that is...), this profound feeling of being grounded, this sheer beauty; and all of this while being relatively clear mentally and absolutely clear emotionally, while intellectually going at high speed - and the ability to communicate all those feelings and impressions in a reasonable way, lacking confusion or impairment of motor functions. fair comedown as a garnish. good stuff, good stuff...
I suggest the beast to take an initial dose of ~170mg. and skip redosing... %)
 
Glad you have reason to appreciate this one... thanks for the advice. Once my supplier is back in gear, I'll follow it!
 
I got a few 6-apb pellets a couple months ago and had very much enjoyed the last 2 experiences and then yesterday I took my last one and felt myself heading into a hypertensive crisis shortly after coming up. My heart was going so fast that it didn't seem to be pumping very effeciently. I got concerned but tried to walk it off and calm down but it was no use. I went back inside and put half a xanax under my tongue and hoped that it would slow my heart down. I was pretty sure I was going to need to go to the hospital. I started driving there and decided to stop at a friend's house instead to see if I could ride it out there and avoid the expense of a hospital visit. I took another half a xanax and talked with my friend and let her know what I had taken. I figured she could get me medical attention if I did get any worse. It took a while but my condition did improve and I was able to ride it out. The xanax killed all euphoria and empathy from it too, of course.

I'm a bit confused as to why this particular dose had such an extreme effect on me. The last one I took felt really mild and I was even considering a redose. It had been about 3 weeks since my last 6-apb trip. I took it in the afternoon yesterday on an empty stomach. I had not taken any other substances since Friday when I did take about ~2 grams of phenibut. I use phenibut twice a week or so. I occasionally do nitrous. I occasionally use small amounts of cannabis. I'm not on any prescription meds. I drink a reasonable amount of coffee or green tea in the mornings. I don't use any other stimulants.

These pellets look exactly like the latest "official" batch, although they did not come in the fancy orange foil packets. They definitely felt like some sort of amphetamine. I felt fantastic on the last 2 rolls. Any idea as to why this would happen on my 3rd dose? They are supposed to contain 125mg 6-apb. I'm feeling much more wary of RC's at this point. That was really an unpleasant experience and I would caution others to be very careful. That last pellet felt 10x more potent than the others.

I think I'll stick to cannabis and nitrous from now on. I can see how someone could die from what just happened to me yesterday. Be careful, people.
 
I can't tell you why that happened but it is possible that the pellet was contaminated or bogus. I suggest that you never purchase 6-APB (or any other such drug) in pre-made pellets/pills/capsules. Rather, buy the pure chemical from a reputable source and a decent milligram scale. Stay safe.
 
I'm sorry to hear you had negative experience Booda, but I have to say my experiences were basically the opposite:
the only time ever I felt really bad physically (with no euphoria) from 6-APB was after consuming the powder. The pellets always worked beautifully. So go figure :\ IMO the chance of receiving crap product are similar in any form, always be careful even with the powder. But the powder is much cheaper than pellets so its better to buy that anyway.

Disadvantage of both 5- and 6-APB is that it takes sooooo long to comeup and if you take too small initial dose, taking more after those 2-3 hours will never get you as high as if you took higher dose in the beginning. So theres always this risk of high body load if the product is crap.
 
Disadvantage of both 5- and 6-APB is that it takes sooooo long to comeup

Off-topic but you had chance to try the 5-APB HCl yet? Much faster come-up, kicking in hard at 30mins and pretty much peaking at +1hr insufflated. Makes a lovely combo with an oral dose of the 6 coming in fully at +2hrs to add a bit more of a psychedelic-esque headspace and a little extra nonsense to the party. :)
 
I got a few 6-apb pellets a couple months ago and had very much enjoyed the last 2 experiences and then yesterday I took my last one and felt myself heading into a hypertensive crisis shortly after coming up. My heart was going so fast that it didn't seem to be pumping very effeciently. I got concerned but tried to walk it off and calm down but it was no use. I went back inside and put half a xanax under my tongue and hoped that it would slow my heart down. I was pretty sure I was going to need to go to the hospital. I started driving there and decided to stop at a friend's house instead to see if I could ride it out there and avoid the expense of a hospital visit. I took another half a xanax and talked with my friend and let her know what I had taken. I figured she could get me medical attention if I did get any worse. It took a while but my condition did improve and I was able to ride it out. The xanax killed all euphoria and empathy from it too, of course.

I'm a bit confused as to why this particular dose had such an extreme effect on me. The last one I took felt really mild and I was even considering a redose. It had been about 3 weeks since my last 6-apb trip. I took it in the afternoon yesterday on an empty stomach. I had not taken any other substances since Friday when I did take about ~2 grams of phenibut. I use phenibut twice a week or so. I occasionally do nitrous. I occasionally use small amounts of cannabis. I'm not on any prescription meds. I drink a reasonable amount of coffee or green tea in the mornings. I don't use any other stimulants.

These pellets look exactly like the latest "official" batch, although they did not come in the fancy orange foil packets. They definitely felt like some sort of amphetamine. I felt fantastic on the last 2 rolls. Any idea as to why this would happen on my 3rd dose? They are supposed to contain 125mg 6-apb. I'm feeling much more wary of RC's at this point. That was really an unpleasant experience and I would caution others to be very careful. That last pellet felt 10x more potent than the others.

I think I'll stick to cannabis and nitrous from now on. I can see how someone could die from what just happened to me yesterday. Be careful, people.

Ugh yeah it's not RC's it's the pellets. It's been stated over and over about the pellets. Who to say it was even 6-APB in yours?
 
Yeah, there is no way to know what was in that pellet. But I have a feeling that taking half of it may have resulted in good times. It simply felt like there was too much active ingredient in there. I'm not preaching against 6-apb, I just find it worrisome that there can be so much variation from one pellet to the next.

I think some people like me who don't have a microgram scale will opt for pellets to try to be safe, when in fact it may indeed be much safer to get the powder if you can't trust the stated dosage of each pellet. Learn from my mistake! :)
 
i took 6apb powder for a good year with no scale, always good times.

buy half a g, split into 4, wrap in a skin. theres roughly 125mg give or take 10mg which isnt that much of a difference when it comes 6apb anyway.

never buy pellets, waste of money
 
^^ you don't need a microgram scale, a milligram scale will surely suffice, considering the doses are pretty high.
 
Off-topic but you had chance to try the 5-APB HCl yet? Much faster come-up, kicking in hard at 30mins and pretty much peaking at +1hr insufflated. Makes a lovely combo with an oral dose of the 6 coming in fully at +2hrs to add a bit more of a psychedelic-esque headspace and a little extra nonsense to the party. :)

woahh is it easy to snort? i tried the old stuff and that stung/smelled/tasted horrible
 
180mg of a weaker batch down the hatch. Saved 15mg to snort on the peak. Should be fun.

I'll be interested to see how this compares to ~150mg because the only time I've gone higher was 250mg but I did that with 150mg + 100mg an hour later.
 
woahh is it easy to snort? i tried the old stuff and that stung/smelled/tasted horrible

It's got some bite to it, will make your eyes water but nothing like ethylphenidate or something properly razor blade-ish / caustic like that, nowhere near. Quickly passes and not much drip, seems to get through the old nasal membranes quite easily. I did about 50mg snorted, 50mg oral with 100mg 6-APB oral and was pretty damn nice. Much faster first alert and initial bit of stimulation than I'd expect of 6-APB anyways, this being a first experiment with the 5 a coupla weeks back just as it started coming available from my supplier anyways.
 
I have insufflated crushed pellets before with very good results. I did try powder also this route but found it simply too much in volume and clumpiness. Got annoying headache both times trying powder this way. Same powder in a drink was fine. Amusingly the first time I crushed and sniffed a pellet I tried to keep it to myself. Good times took over and next thing I am waking and looking in the mirror at two very turquoise nostrils. Lesson learned and mrs did not notice!
 
Is there any reason to think 6-APB might have MAOI properties? I seemed to experience considerable potentiation taking 4-ACO-DMT a couple of hours after 6-APB.
 
Is there any reason to think 6-APB might have MAOI properties? I seemed to experience considerable potentiation taking 4-ACO-DMT a couple of hours after 6-APB.

Is it not just the stimulant push from another serotonergic rather than any MAOI type action? 6-APB will push aMT quite hard dropped together with it, I find I have to stagger dosing to make the combo 'safe', 6-APB first and allowed to settle, then the aMT couple of hours in. Still more than the sum of its parts quite often that combo even then, have to dose lower than I would with each on their own. I don't think the exact pharmacology is fully understood yet but I was under the impression it was a fairly straightforward agonist at serotonin receptors, same as most other psychedelics in this class including the 4-AcO?

Good times took over and next thing I am waking and looking in the mirror at two very turquoise nostrils. Lesson learned and mrs did not notice!

Hahaha, I done the exact same thing, exact same results. :) Like 6apbhmm says not a good idea. Lot of filler in there to bind up the pellet, as well as the dye. Found snorting 6-APB difficult, the succinate at least, none too pleasant or particularly easy to get up there in the amount I require. Not tried it with the 6-APB HCl yet.

6apbhmm said:
Booda said:
I think some people like me who don't have a microgram scale will opt for pellets to try to be safe, when in fact it may indeed be much safer to get the powder if you can't trust the stated dosage of each pellet.

i took 6apb powder for a good year with no scale, always good times.

buy half a g, split into 4, wrap in a skin. theres roughly 125mg give or take 10mg which isnt that much of a difference when it comes 6apb anyway.

never buy pellets, waste of money

Exactly this 6apb. It's pretty easy to eyeball half a g to a g, and even if your supplier's generous and your chopping out skills poor it's forgiving enough that 20-30mg over what you were aiming for ain't gonna suddenly put you into stupid territory. Would never ordinarily recommend eyeballing, especially with other psyches / stims like aMT for instance where 10-20mg over can be enough to produce wildly different effects to those anticipated but I have few concerns here.
 
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Possible I suppose. I took a pretty low dose of the 4-aco-dmt for my constitution (I'm pretty familiar with the stuff) and it was like I'd taken much more. I think if I'd had my usual 50mg I would have been totally floored. Also, the visual aspect seemed quite different, almost like Pharmahuasca, much more pronounced than usual. Either way, a very nice combo :)

Is it not just the stimulant push from another serotonergic rather than any MAOI type action? 6-APB will push aMT quite hard dropped together with it, I find I have to stagger dosing to make the combo 'safe', 6-APB first and allowed to settle, then the aMT couple of hours in. Still more than the sum of its parts quite often that combo even then, have to dose lower than I would with each on their own. I don't think the exact pharmacology is fully understood yet but I was under the impression it was a fairly straightforward agonist at serotonin receptors, same as most other psychedelics in this class including the 4-AcO?.
 
Is it not just the stimulant push from another serotonergic rather than any MAOI type action? 6-APB will push aMT quite hard dropped together with it, I find I have to stagger dosing to make the combo 'safe', 6-APB first and allowed to settle, then the aMT couple of hours in. Still more than the sum of its parts quite often that combo even then, have to dose lower than I would with each on their own. I don't think the exact pharmacology is fully understood yet but I was under the impression it was a fairly straightforward agonist at serotonin receptors, same as most other psychedelics in this class including the 4-AcO?

You shouldn't be combining these two at all. aMT is an MAOI, so no wonder it causes major potentiation of 6-APB. There is a very real risk of serotonin syndrome with the combo you are suggesting.

Sepher said:
Exactly this 6apb. It's pretty easy to eyeball half a g to a g, and even if your supplier's generous and your chopping out skills poor it's forgiving enough that 20-30mg over what you were aiming for ain't gonna suddenly put you into stupid territory. Would never ordinarily recommend eyeballing, especially with other psyches / stims like aMT for instance where 10-20mg over can be enough to produce wildly different effects to those anticipated but I have few concerns here.

A scale should be used no matter what. Even if it's just to stay in the habit.

Possible I suppose. I took a pretty low dose of the 4-aco-dmt for my constitution (I'm pretty familiar with the stuff) and it was like I'd taken much more. I think if I'd had my usual 50mg I would have been totally floored. Also, the visual aspect seemed quite different, almost like Pharmahuasca, much more pronounced than usual. Either way, a very nice combo :)

Was it anything like a candyflip/hippyflip?
 
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