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I was all set on trying mdma until...

F1n1shed said:
If you are indeed 15 i would stay away from the hard drugs man, just enjoy weed. As far as worrying about stuff, i say K is much less damaging to the brain than MD that's for sure. Just make sure you do very small amounts, to get a feel for it. You can always roll in the future.. or not.
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Ahh thanks and yeah since I'm 15 ill stick to weed and ketamine not cocaine and md :)
 
Chesh said:
- No it most likely won't. Sleep paralysis can happen because of low serotonin, ketamine doesn't affect serotonin.
- Just do small bumps off a key until you're were you want to be. Don't listen to what anyone else tells you to do. I've only see people have bad experience on ket because they've done way too much straight away instead of easing into it, plus you won't get to the stage where you're tripping hard if you're just bumping it at a rave.
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Thanks!!!! I'm gonna do k :D maybe smoke it instead though
 
Within the group of friends that I know Ketamine has been the one to catch people out, not cocaine. Ketamine is far easier to abuse and in my opinion easier to get `hooked on`.
 
crackhead420 said:
Thanks!!!! I'm gonna do k :D maybe smoke it instead though
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Not a good idea mate it'll be easier to control your dose if you just do little bumps off a key.

And set yourself a limit with ket if you do end up doing it more often (but I'd say just do it once at this rave until you're a bit older), because like Cz_x said people do get caught out by it and addicted to it.
 
crackhead420 said:
Ahh thanks and yeah since I'm 15 ill stick to weed and ketamine not cocaine and md :)
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Flawed logic is flawed.

Instead of snorting a drug made from a plant and another one synthesized in a lab, I'm going to smoke a plant and use a drug synthesized in a lab.




If you're not responsible enough to use MDMA, you're certainly not responsible enough to use ketamine. Or even smoke weed, to be 100% honest with you.
 
Folley said:
Flawed logic is flawed.

Instead of snorting a drug made from a plant and another one synthesized in a lab, I'm going to smoke a plant and use a drug synthesized in a lab.
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Doing ketamine in moderation is going to be less damaging to a developing brain than doing MDMA in moderation will be.

Not too sure about cocaine my knowledge of that is limited.
 
I don't think using MDMA safely would be any more damaging that ketamine use. But we're all telling him not to use MDMA, because he most likely can't handle using it in a safe way... I couldn't at that age, I still did, but that's another story.


I think ketamine lends itself to abuse a lot more than MDMA dose, and could be even more dangerous for him if he develops a habit to it at that young age.



Like I said, if he can't handle MDMA.. he can't handle anything else.
 
I've had desires to do MDMA again more than Ket, just because it's possibly one of the most intense euphoric experience you can have.

But you may be right. I think it's a good thing he's come for advice first, so at least we can let him know he needs to set limits with ket to make sure he doesn't become an addict. Ketamine addiction is grimey as fuck.
 
Or he should just wait till he's at least 18 before he dives off the deep end into the drug pool.

And don't hop on the K-Train, it will wreak havoc on your bladder and urinary tract. Going to the bathroom every 15 minutes isn't fun. And not to mention the K-pains, feels like you're dying on the inside,
 
lightforce said:
Or he should just wait till he's at least 18 before he dives off the deep end into the drug pool.

And don't hop on the K-Train, it will wreak havoc on your bladder and urinary tract. Going to the bathroom every 15 minutes isn't fun. And not to mention the K-pains, feels like you're dying on the inside,
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Yeah, he should. But he won't.

You need to do a lot of ketamine quite regularly to damage your bladder and to get K-pain. Using it once a week for a while has never caused me any problems. But at his age I'd only advise him to do it once at this rave then wait until he's older.
 
I know very well of the bladder problems, I've had K-pains twice. But I was also doing grams upon grams daily. I started out just doing it at raves, then once I was able to get a steady connection it got out of hand.

I've stopped doing that much but I haven't completely cut it out either.
 
lightforce said:
I know very well of the bladder problems, I've had K-pains twice. But I was also doing grams upon grams daily. I started out just doing it at raves, then once I was able to get a steady connection it got out of hand.

I've stopped doing that much but I haven't completely cut it out either.
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Yeah like I said you need to pretty much be doing ketamine on a daily basis. I'm sorry to hear that as well mate I've seen ketamine addiction first hand and I know it's not easy to deal with. If I wasn't so aware of how bad addiction to ketamine can be I probably wouldn't be so good at regulating my use.
 
Cz_x said:
Within the group of friends that I know Ketamine has been the one to catch people out, not cocaine. Ketamine is far easier to abuse and in my opinion easier to get `hooked on`.
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Hmm yeah but I'm going to a rave when doing it so I wouldn't easily get it after and I can control myself
 
Chesh said:
Yeah, he should. But he won't.

You need to do a lot of ketamine quite regularly to damage your bladder and to get K-pain. Using it once a week for a while has never caused me any problems. But at his age I'd only advise him to do it once at this rave then wait until he's older.
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Exactly this guy understands, then if k isn't good what's the safest rave drug? (Not weed)
 
severely etarded said:
if you're 15 years old, you really shouldn't be doing drugs without adult supervision... even then, the adult should be responsible enough not to let some little kid fry their brain. wtf
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Your frying your brain ;) I really don't need this discrimination though. Its not appreciated.
 
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