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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

justinsayno said:
i dont get your logic, why the Menthofuran link ?
have you a reason to think this is found benzofurans other than the two words ryhme ?

But, i have wondered 6apb gives me the shits...something to do with the seratonin receptos in our stomaches i guess...?
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Yes, it was because the two words rhyme, you guessed correct!!!! I happened to be looking at various essential oils of plants, and noticed the similarity in name, upon looking at the molecular STRUCTURE I found a similarity between the two. It struck me as INTERESTING because I don't know of many essential oils containing a furan ring structure. But fuck it, it is indeed a stretch, and the benzene ring isn't even quite right, and it's not exactly a furane ring.

But if some chinese/ other foreign lab produces a batch with toxic impurities, and some fun-haver on the other side of the world dies because of it, the lab can always claim that it was never intended for human consumption so we're not responsible etc. MDA and MDMA have been synthe'd so many more times in the world than 6-APB, and the synthesis processes have been more highly refined, at least it has a longer history of being made and we have a general idea of what the synth impurities might be (like safrole or piperonal) but I have yet to hear what synth impurities there might be in 6-APB. Read through some of shulgins stuff, there are chemicals out there that simply give very low and impure yeilds when made, such that the final product is some foul and inconsistent sludge of 20% purity or less......which does not really seem to be the case with 6-APB, hardly at all, but it makes me wary nonetheless.

And on another note, I know somebody who took a bunch of 6-APB and nearly got raped because they were too fucked up to defend themselves or have any fucking foresight at all. Think that over, Doctor Suess.

Not every overdose or death will be documented or accessible on google, or CNN, or even on bluelight. Just because overdose and death is not being picked up by the mass media does not mean it is not happening. And the way the shit reacts so slowly to marquis could have a lot of users thinking they got some weak ass molly and that they have to consume a bunch for it to work.

even if the comedown/etardation is different/less harmful or less painful than MDMA or an impure E pill, you could still die from taking it. matter of fact, I would rather unnecessarily scare people out of taking it and having a good safe time than see people take it and get hurt or die thinking it was safe (from any cause, be it an auto accident, rape, arrest, serotonin syndrome or otherwise)

probably it is better for people to not take it unless they were responsible and familiar with what it is to begin with.
 
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Would 5 & 6apb release as much serotonin as mdma? If i dosed 5&6 a week ago then dropped quality mdma would the roll be effected much? thanks
 
Utahrd said:
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All quite true, however i do believe [ rightly or wrongly ] vendors will do thier best to avoid negative publicity and / or getting thier products banned.
I imgine the chinese labs will be more hygienic and effecient than criminals.
But you are right its a risky thing to do....i would say a MDMA pill is safer just by the length of time peole have been taking it, rather than any possible mistakes during the production
 
intelligentmind said:
Would 5 & 6apb release as much serotonin as mdma? If i dosed 5&6 a week ago then dropped quality mdma would the roll be effected much? thanks
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I have no idea how much of anything it actually releases but you can bet your roll will be weaker. 1 week is not enough. Tens of people on this board have confirmed that.
 
6apbhmm said:
I have no idea how much of anything it actually releases but you can bet your roll will be weaker. 1 week is not enough. Tens of people on this board have confirmed that.
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What if i'm taking Piracetam daily? Will the Piracetam make any difference at all? I have been taking it for the last couple of months. Edit ------ sorry miscalculated the days it will be 13 days since I had 5&6 & plan to take mdma
 
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johannes kreisler said:
I still feel - or increasingly feel - that 6apb has rewired me. new perspective in life. hope. amazing. <3
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Brilliant line. I feel the same. Using it once every couple weeks over last couple months has totally helped me sort my shizzle out. 'Rewired' is spot on :D
 
judging by the fact that some people dose a gram of 6-apb in a night and wake up feeling decent, it's REASONABLY safe to assume that single doses are not much to fret over.

try that with MDA and see what happens. =)
i don't think anyone's tread in those waters....

besides, intuitively, and with careful attention to your body's reaction, you can judge for yourself what is and isn't right for you.
personally, 6-apb felt as clean or cleaner than molly and gave significantly less hangover (and i even dosed 2 nights in a row...which i wouldn't do again or recommend at all). actually it gave more of a psychedelic hangover than an empathogen hangover, which is to say i felt a little spacey but nothing physically at all. a headache is a tall-tale sign of organic toxicity, and sufficient doses of MDA or alcohol provide them aplenty. the complete absence, in my experience, of even a minor hangover from 6-apb suggests at least a tentative, relative safety compared to it's brethren.

and yes, it has been taken in massive amounts for at least 3 years now....while not entirely informative of safety, that still means SOMETHING!
 
So it's been two years now.

Has any research been done or started on the safety and possible risks of it yet?
 
well i been taking the stuff about once a month sometimes twice a month and im still highly intelligent so its all good :)
 
I have several questions about this substance (6-APB).

1.) A vendor that has in the past provided good product to several friends of mine is now only selling what they call "Batch II" of 6-APB. It is described as "6APB from this batch is in the form of - off-white tan fine powder". This is substantially different from the dark tan and clumpy powder described in what information I can find on this substance.

The claim is that is the exact same substance, just a different texture. I have read quite a few accounts of white "6-APB" powder being some random chemical rather than 6-apb.

So my question is: Is is physically possible for 6-APB to be as described?

Disclaimer: I am not looking for vendor names, pricing or substance ID. I am just starting my interest in chemistry so would like a more knowledgeable person to say whether this amount of appearance deviation is even possible.

2.) If I have done my research correctly a marquis reagent should turn purple when exposed to 6-APB. All the other info I can find about testing is very confusing.

MY questions for testing are:

a.) What kits work to help positively ID 6-APB?
b.) What colors do they turn?
c.) If not kits then how can I determine whether a substance is really 6-APB? Do I have to send a sample somewhere or what?

As several people have spoken positively to me about this substance I am looking for some harm reduction advice basically.

My thanks.
 
JamesAllen9218 said:
I have several questions about this substance (6-APB).

1.) A vendor that has in the past provided good product to several friends of mine is now only selling what they call "Batch II" of 6-APB. It is described as "6APB from this batch is in the form of - off-white tan fine powder". This is substantially different from the dark tan and clumpy powder described in what information I can find on this substance.

The claim is that is the exact same substance, just a different texture. I have read quite a few accounts of white "6-APB" powder being some random chemical rather than 6-apb.

So my question is: Is is physically possible for 6-APB to be as described?

Disclaimer: I am not looking for vendor names, pricing or substance ID. I am just starting my interest in chemistry so would like a more knowledgeable person to say whether this amount of appearance deviation is even possible.

2.) If I have done my research correctly a marquis reagent should turn purple when exposed to 6-APB. All the other info I can find about testing is very confusing.

MY questions for testing are:

a.) What kits work to help positively ID 6-APB?
b.) What colors do they turn?
c.) If not kits then how can I determine whether a substance is really 6-APB? Do I have to send a sample somewhere or what?

As several people have spoken positively to me about this substance I am looking for some harm reduction advice basically.

My thanks.
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Yes, there are batches of 6-APB that are very very fine, and tan colored. It tests purple-black on marquis. - however if you cant test with kits, then yes, obviously theres no way to tell without sending it away.
 
1.) A vendor that has in the past provided good product to several friends of mine is now only selling what they call "Batch II" of 6-APB. It is described as "6APB from this batch is in the form of - off-white tan fine powder". This is substantially different from the dark tan and clumpy powder described in what information I can find on this substance.

The claim is that is the exact same substance, just a different texture. I have read quite a few accounts of white "6-APB" powder being some random chemical rather than 6-apb.
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My understanding is that the tan powder everyone's been used to mostly ( let's call it Batch I ) to date is the succinate form. I've had the much paler light tan / almost cream coloured stuff you're calling Batch II this last month from a vendor claiming it's the HCl version. Results were exactly as per previous batches of the darker succinate, no difference whatsoever. Only got the vendor's word on that but no reason to doubt him. Wonder if anyone else can expand on that at all?
 
Sepher said:
My understanding is that the tan powder everyone's been used to mostly ( let's call it Batch I ) to date is the succinate form. I've had the much paler light tan / almost cream coloured stuff you're calling Batch II this last month from a vendor claiming it's the HCl version. Results were exactly as per previous batches of the darker succinate, no difference whatsoever. Only got the vendor's word on that but no reason to doubt him. Wonder if anyone else can expand on that at all?
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SPDemon420 said:
Yes, there are batches of 6-APB that are very very fine, and tan colored. It tests purple-black on marquis. - however if you cant test with kits, then yes, obviously theres no way to tell without sending it away.
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@Sepher and SPDemon,

Thank you for the confirmation that 6-APB can actually come in the described "Batch II" physical form.

Also my thanks for the confirmation on the fact that 6-APB turns Purple-Black when exposed to Marquis reagent. However I am still at a loss for what to expect when I use other testers besides the Marquis.

Does anyone know the answer to questions a, and b from my original post?

I am going to order test kits and would like to know which to order, I apologize for just asking however my research has turned up contradictory information, and I am turning to blue-light for help with its specialty, harm reduction.

My thanks again to all who bother to answer.
 
I just used a marquis and it turned dark purple. no other physical tests were made and the substance was A-OKAY....
it was also a strange, clumpy off white/tannish powder. didn't see any reason to try multiple tests....
 
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