Seyer
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Hoegaarden. First time trying it, me lke.
How High Are You? v. Not High Enough
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Tryptamino
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just been on the usual bong hit routine, only a little heavier on the pot smoke the past few days due to some mild dopesickness.
Pill2Chill
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verso
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What's going on, guys? Yeah, I'm pretty high right now. This is the highest I've been in a long, long time, actually.
We've been picking up just two or three bags a day recently, you know, to keep away the sick and maybe catch a small buzz if we can afford to pick up an extra one or two bags. But, for the most part, been keeping away the sick and that's all.
It seems to have reduced our tolerance, though, and that's a good thing. We picked up a bundle today from one of our guys with good stuff but whom we don't go through very often; our regular guy was giving us the run-around today, the ol' "15 minutes... 15 minutes..." We had enough of that after an hour, and so we went to see our other guy. Thank God we did because the bags are fantastic. I'm nodding my face off, man... feels good!
We've been picking up just two or three bags a day recently, you know, to keep away the sick and maybe catch a small buzz if we can afford to pick up an extra one or two bags. But, for the most part, been keeping away the sick and that's all.
It seems to have reduced our tolerance, though, and that's a good thing. We picked up a bundle today from one of our guys with good stuff but whom we don't go through very often; our regular guy was giving us the run-around today, the ol' "15 minutes... 15 minutes..." We had enough of that after an hour, and so we went to see our other guy. Thank God we did because the bags are fantastic. I'm nodding my face off, man... feels good!
Tiesto
Bluelighter
I'm relaxed. I've had some gin and some codeine. Not bad at all, but I wish I could have more lol!
SirTophamHat
Bluelighter
Not high at all (and no high in the foreseeable future)
I'd be upset if I didn't have so much work on my plate for the next 8 weeks. It's like I really want to be high, yet really don't. I'd only be sabotaging myself...
I'd be upset if I didn't have so much work on my plate for the next 8 weeks. It's like I really want to be high, yet really don't. I'd only be sabotaging myself...
tentram
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even though your bupe dose is low it's not advantageous in the "spirit of getting high" to add full agonists, such as morphine (kapanol) in the mix. the bupe has stronger binding properties and won't really allow the morphine to work.
high on codeine and dihydrocodeine, sucking down a cigarette with the V8's on in the background.
i should have picked up a few beers earlier, it's hot as shit here today. lovely day nonetheless.
2c-goinsane
Bluelighter
feel great/relaxed. had a couple mg's of alprazolam today and now just insuflated a wee lil bit of methoxetamine for a little cherrie on top bout to loud some cannabis up to, feelin nice.
tentram
Ex-Bluelighter
fuck yeah. just raided dads tin and found the last of the dack in the house. he's gonna be pissed i found it when it's been sitting next to him this whole time.
joint rolled, smoking commenced.
joint rolled, smoking commenced.
Sister_M0rphine
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Completely sober and currently out of money.
LogicSoDeveloped
Bluelighter
Feeling good from some Opium, avoiding the bud so I actually have some work ethic which is probably why I should've waited on the Opium.
Opiatesrarely
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Just a dose of bluelight for now
^same
doubt i'll be getting high anytime soon
its probably for the best
doubt i'll be getting high anytime soon
its probably for the best
helium-4
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-60mg of amphetamine earlier today
-a shot of heroin (not much, especially not enough to nod, but enough to make me feel prreeetttty good) - I wasn't expecting to do heroin today, so it is doubly nice. I did some of a very euphoric drug and didn't spend part of my day thinking about the fact that I'm gonna do heroin later. I'll get anxious waiting for when I'll go down to pick some up, which may vary greatly.
Just wish I had either a little more heroin, or some benzos (really want the pharmacy to get the fax that my doctor is supposed to send for alprazolam tablets - 60 1 mg tablets). I'm technically am supposed to only have 1 1mg tablet left from the last fill today, so I'm kinda annoyed they didn't fax the script before the weekend. Sigh, I should be able to enjoy a 2mg dose of xanax on top of the heroin and for the end of the amphetamines. I don't like the affect benzos have on the opioid experience, usually diminishing the euphoria, so if I do combine opioids and benzos I take a lot smaller dose of benzos then if I was using them alone. With alprazolam I find that I can take a higher dose and not actually alter the opioid experience negatively. Quite the contrary. Unlike clonazepam which I was taking regularly before getting alprazolam, I find alprazolam to have little negative effect on my mind/perception and have a very warm and fuzzy muscle relaxant effect that goes so well with a safe dose of an opioid like heroin.
For the dose they took of buprenorphine, 0.2 mg (200 micrograms) there should be no block effect of other opioids. If anything, such a dose does give them some recreational effect, it should only add to the effects of an additional opioid. Even with 2-4 mgs depending on how the drug effects the individual, the bupe could add to the effect. Even when blocking happens there still are unoccupied receptors that could be bound to by the lower affinity opioids. If some minor reduction is present for some people with doses less than 2-4mg, it might be so minimal that even set and setting could potentially reduce the perceived effects greater than what the bupe + opioid combo actually would. I certainly have combined other opioids after using low dose suboxone strips when I randomly ended up with a full agonist opioid later that day or the next day, not worrying about the subs high affinity. I absolutely wouldn't worry about 0.2mg of buprenorphine.
Doctors prescribe doses in that low dosage range for pain with other opioids for breakthrough pain. I've heard that buprenorphine's painkilling effect is actually strongest at the lower end of the dosage spectrum than the high doses prescribed for opioid maintenance partially or primarily due to its own metabolites effects (doses under 1mg being stronger than 8mg+ in terms of painkilling properties). I know from personal experience that when I reach around 5-7mg+ the effects of the bupe are noticeably different and not necessarily for the benefit of the user (I'd get a lot more stimulation, sometimes noticeably less euphoria particularly when I could actually get a awesome recreational high from it, the times where I get a larger number of side-effects increase [headaches are the most notorious for me], and probably a few other things I can't think of right now).
-a shot of heroin (not much, especially not enough to nod, but enough to make me feel prreeetttty good) - I wasn't expecting to do heroin today, so it is doubly nice. I did some of a very euphoric drug and didn't spend part of my day thinking about the fact that I'm gonna do heroin later. I'll get anxious waiting for when I'll go down to pick some up, which may vary greatly.
Just wish I had either a little more heroin, or some benzos (really want the pharmacy to get the fax that my doctor is supposed to send for alprazolam tablets - 60 1 mg tablets). I'm technically am supposed to only have 1 1mg tablet left from the last fill today, so I'm kinda annoyed they didn't fax the script before the weekend. Sigh, I should be able to enjoy a 2mg dose of xanax on top of the heroin and for the end of the amphetamines. I don't like the affect benzos have on the opioid experience, usually diminishing the euphoria, so if I do combine opioids and benzos I take a lot smaller dose of benzos then if I was using them alone. With alprazolam I find that I can take a higher dose and not actually alter the opioid experience negatively. Quite the contrary. Unlike clonazepam which I was taking regularly before getting alprazolam, I find alprazolam to have little negative effect on my mind/perception and have a very warm and fuzzy muscle relaxant effect that goes so well with a safe dose of an opioid like heroin.
For the dose they took of buprenorphine, 0.2 mg (200 micrograms) there should be no block effect of other opioids. If anything, such a dose does give them some recreational effect, it should only add to the effects of an additional opioid. Even with 2-4 mgs depending on how the drug effects the individual, the bupe could add to the effect. Even when blocking happens there still are unoccupied receptors that could be bound to by the lower affinity opioids. If some minor reduction is present for some people with doses less than 2-4mg, it might be so minimal that even set and setting could potentially reduce the perceived effects greater than what the bupe + opioid combo actually would. I certainly have combined other opioids after using low dose suboxone strips when I randomly ended up with a full agonist opioid later that day or the next day, not worrying about the subs high affinity. I absolutely wouldn't worry about 0.2mg of buprenorphine.
Doctors prescribe doses in that low dosage range for pain with other opioids for breakthrough pain. I've heard that buprenorphine's painkilling effect is actually strongest at the lower end of the dosage spectrum than the high doses prescribed for opioid maintenance partially or primarily due to its own metabolites effects (doses under 1mg being stronger than 8mg+ in terms of painkilling properties). I know from personal experience that when I reach around 5-7mg+ the effects of the bupe are noticeably different and not necessarily for the benefit of the user (I'd get a lot more stimulation, sometimes noticeably less euphoria particularly when I could actually get a awesome recreational high from it, the times where I get a larger number of side-effects increase [headaches are the most notorious for me], and probably a few other things I can't think of right now).
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Pill2Chill
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Night 3, pretty tired. Done with amphetamines for a while again.
tentram
Ex-Bluelighter
i'm well aware of that myself but for the sake of bl and how many times the question of "just took some bupe, how long till i can dose?" or "just relapsed, how long until i can restart my subs?" gets raised around here, among all the "i just put myself into precip's...fark, i'm dying" for eg, i generally tell people to avoid the combination unless they've stated they're on a bupe patch (which i have plenty experience myself from PM) and needing something for breakthrough, which they should be discussing with their doc.
i'm a little stoned (got dat lumbar region poppin') after after waking a few hours ago and started to feel sick so dosed some lope with prometh, listening to irish instrumental rock.
one day until the cycle starts again
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
you crazy. i was nodding from my morphine alone for a while until i started shooting again so need valium in the mix if i'm to "nod" unless i shoot half a gram+ over the day i'll get the morphine dreams happening throughout that night.
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helium-4
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I understand. I generally say its best to avoid taking bupe real soon after taking opioids (time depending on the opioid), even if the dose is likely low enough to have no precipitated WD from taking it. There isn't really much of a increased risk from taking bupe and another opioid, though with a no to low toleranant opioid user bupe can be surprisingly potent and even pretty awesome for recreation.
When I first started using bupe every so often I had a tolerance, but it was low enough to where I could take between 1.5 to 4mg and be very high for 24+ hours (it become closer to the later not to long down the road but it was mainly due to oxycodone that my tolerance went up). I gave a very small amount (~.2-.4mg) to a roommate with no opioid tolerance and he'd have a pretty decent time on it. For a little bit I almost rather the guy I was buying pills from have suboxone strips than oxycodone 30s. I'd get a very euphoric high and have a much longer lasting high with at least two or more doses from one 8mg suboxone strip. I was paying a lot more for the 30s then I wanted to also and had to take multiple at a time, so I'd end up spending so much more with them than with the bupe. Once I started my tolerance was kinda up there from the oxy (90-120mg of oxy for a solid high), the bupe wasn't quite as recreational as it was in the past. Then once I started using bupe multiple times a week for a little while and got up to taking 8mg+ in a day the high basically went away, and turned into what most people describe the experience to be like.
I guess when I say combining benzos and opioids I'm mainly talking about clonazepam and ativan, which I think are terrible in combo with them especially when you are already taking pretty high opioid doses. Alprazolam for some reason just seems to mix pretty darn well. I still try to keep my doses low even with a benzo tolerance when combining them because even alprazolam can start clouding the experience from taking to many (I'm not really worried about respiratory failure for the combo with the tolerance I have to both classes and knowledge of what doses are in the realm of safe). Some opioids are less suited for benzos too. Oxymorphone I really didn't see the point with adding benzos or even anti-histamines like doxylamine or diphenhydramine because it is just a sedating opiate. I'd almost fall asleep even if I wasn't 'nodding out' just because of the heavy sedation. With Heroin I find benzos make me accidentally fall asleep to often if taken while there is also diphenhydramine or hydroxyzine in my system, and sometimes with out, even when I'm not nodding just like with the oxymorphone.
When I first started using bupe every so often I had a tolerance, but it was low enough to where I could take between 1.5 to 4mg and be very high for 24+ hours (it become closer to the later not to long down the road but it was mainly due to oxycodone that my tolerance went up). I gave a very small amount (~.2-.4mg) to a roommate with no opioid tolerance and he'd have a pretty decent time on it. For a little bit I almost rather the guy I was buying pills from have suboxone strips than oxycodone 30s. I'd get a very euphoric high and have a much longer lasting high with at least two or more doses from one 8mg suboxone strip. I was paying a lot more for the 30s then I wanted to also and had to take multiple at a time, so I'd end up spending so much more with them than with the bupe. Once I started my tolerance was kinda up there from the oxy (90-120mg of oxy for a solid high), the bupe wasn't quite as recreational as it was in the past. Then once I started using bupe multiple times a week for a little while and got up to taking 8mg+ in a day the high basically went away, and turned into what most people describe the experience to be like.
I guess when I say combining benzos and opioids I'm mainly talking about clonazepam and ativan, which I think are terrible in combo with them especially when you are already taking pretty high opioid doses. Alprazolam for some reason just seems to mix pretty darn well. I still try to keep my doses low even with a benzo tolerance when combining them because even alprazolam can start clouding the experience from taking to many (I'm not really worried about respiratory failure for the combo with the tolerance I have to both classes and knowledge of what doses are in the realm of safe). Some opioids are less suited for benzos too. Oxymorphone I really didn't see the point with adding benzos or even anti-histamines like doxylamine or diphenhydramine because it is just a sedating opiate. I'd almost fall asleep even if I wasn't 'nodding out' just because of the heavy sedation. With Heroin I find benzos make me accidentally fall asleep to often if taken while there is also diphenhydramine or hydroxyzine in my system, and sometimes with out, even when I'm not nodding just like with the oxymorphone.
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