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Men like women with no makeup? WAT??

Makeup can be applied poorly, and it can be applied well. It can be suitable to the occasion, or it can stand out like a sore thumb.

I would never go clubbing or to a wedding for example without at least some makeup on, because I like to dress for the occasion basically. I also would never wear makeup to the gym. It's all about how much, and when.

There's definitely a middle ground here, and I think well applied makeup looks great.

Makeup should be about enhancing natural beauty - not slathering a ton of it on in a tacky attempt to create beauty. I think the latter is what most guys (and many girls) find off-putting.

On a side note - I don't mind a bit of rough and "alternative" porn and I watch it fairly regularly to be honest, but a lot of what I watch I probably would not enjoy IRL. Most of it, I wouldn't even consider attempting, but it can still get me off to watch others doing it.
 
Makeup is dumb, pointless, commercial extravagant hoodwinked individual self consciousness.

Perfume and aftershave too,

We have pheromones. For a reason. It's a secondary sex characteristic. The further you paint yourself into oblivion the further you become less of the god/goddess you always were.

Come at me, as you are.
 
I met this girl at party the other weekend and she didn't have much make up on and I gotta say she was absolutely stunning! Unfortunately most girls in my area look like they should be welcoming me onto easy jet lol
 
i have issues with some of these men.

one, for the reason you stated. the women they prefer celebrity-wise sure as shit have professionally applied make-up at all times. there's a creepy, misogynist slant in wanting a real life girl to be makeupless in light of that. if tells me you want a girl who either looks dowdy or feels dowdy to appease your own low self esteem. that, or you have some delusional ideas about how women need to be "naturally beautiful" for you.

i had one boyfriend when i was much younger (and dumber) who was abusive and would constantly harangue me for the time it took for me to get ready, and the fact that i cared to look nice. after that, i did not tolerate any of that shit from men whatsoever.

that was a while ago. the most recent thing i experience with that personally was this guy i semi-dated - not really- weird circumstances brought us together. anyway, we slept together a few times but he was pretty gross. didn't clip his nails, had half-ass dreads that didn't even look like real dreads...was just a crusty guy. he claimed to be into me and hurt when he realized i did not feel the same. when he started dating this overweight, no-makeup wearing white-girl-dreads hippie girl, along with the photos on facebook came status updates criticizing girls who listen to pop music and care if they gain weight? i assume he was referring to me. translation: i found someone gross enough to be in a relationship with me so i am going to rag on the girl who actually takes care of herself.

i find it weird and uncivilized to have a thing against makeup. makeup is fun, it's an artform, it's been used for centuries to accentuate features, and it is just fun. if you have a problem with it, seek out the granola crunching girl of your dreams then, but ragging on the women who use it is just pathetic and suggests weird issues of your own.
 
My girlfriend doesn't wear any makeup. At least not on a daily basis. I'd say she looks better than 95% of the women I meet. If she wore makeup, even just a tiny bit, she would be a complete knockout. But she saves that for going out and whatnot.
 
JP: How is it misogynistic to prefer a certain aesthetic over a different one? Some girls like beards on guys, and some don't. Is it misandry for that girl to prefer a shaved fellow over one who is not?
 
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JP: How is it misogynistic to prefer a certain aesthetic over a different one? Some girls like beards on guys, and some don't. Is it misandry for that girl to prefer a shaved fellow over one who is not?
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i suppose i just relate it to that experience i had with the abusive guy who would make a huge issue out of the fact that i liked to use makeup. mostly just because he was looking for things to bitch about though. it was just a device to try to wear me down. that, and there are men who call women who use makeup "painted whores" and such, and have the idea that women who use makeup are somehow cheapening themselves. i think that is pretty stupid. some of that is just lack of understanding off how makeup works. for instance, a girl can put quite a bit of makeup on and still appear natural and unmadeup.

so no, i don't think it is mysoginistic to just prefer one aesthetic over another (i realize not everyone is going to dig my cateyes, kay?) but i think it implies a real lack of understanding of the female gender to not realize that this is an individual basis issue. one girl can go makeupless and look great, while another is going to look ten times worse without it. you can appreciate a natural looking girl or girls who don't need makeup to look good, without generalizing and putting down all of the women who do use it.
 
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Fair enough, my point was essentially that the preference, standing on it's own, is not misogynistic in nature. It can be an aspect of misogyny under some circumstances, such as those you pointed out. The cases you state, I would agree with you meet that definition.

I have a buddy with bunch of allergies, including to a lot of cosmetics and scents. He likes girls who don't use make-up solely for the reason that it assures him he won't have a physically miserable time from being around her. That's not misogynistic in the least, is it?

Or as I said, sometimes I prefer the look of the SAME girl without make-up and at times with it. It's purely for it's aesthetic value. (Much as one of those girls sometimes likes me to be dressed like a hipster in skinny jeans etc and other times to kick it in my fatigues and boots)
 
makeup is fun, it's an artform, it's been used for centuries to accentuate features, and it is just fun. if you have a problem with it, seek out the granola crunching girl of your dreams then, but ragging on the women who use it is just pathetic and suggests weird issues of your own.
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I don't think most men who prefer less makeup to more are 'ragging' on anyone. Statements of preference are just that - and, as evidenced by the men who have posted in this thread, it's clear that there aren't two evenly divided camps of Yes-sayers and Nay-sayers. As a matter of principle, a girl's choice to wear makeup won't affect the extent to which I find her attractive so long as it's not so obvious or overpowering that I cannot see past it. In other words, like almost every other guy that's posted in this thread, I don't think makeup as such is problematic at all; but I'd much prefer a girl who wore less to one who wore more, movie stars and pinup girls be damned.
 
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I'd just like someone to read this with the topic/word make-up as fat, and then go talk to some people who like BBW.
This shit is subjective. I feel you're looking for validation as opposed to reason, Lysis. I can understand a positive bias to those in agreement, but your opposition just seems off.
It's not even like it's an objective question. Some people are ugly as fuck (to others). Some people have natural beauty that is enhanced by make-up. Some people have natural beauty that make-up detracts from. Some people look pretty average without it, and look quite appealing with it on. Others use make-up and make themselves less appealing.
Shit is all subjective, and you really don't seem to be.
Make-up, also, can't be removed from the full dynamic, hair cut especially. You have to look at the canvas. We have to look at their skin tone, and the shape/colour/placement of their eyes, cheeks, nose, eyebrows, lips, yada yada yada.
Make-up can improve the appeal of someone to you. Make-up can detract from the appeal of someone.
Make up doesn't come in only black and white, and neither does the opinion on such.
 
I think that self confidence is sexy, so if you have the confidence to go sans makeup, the more power to you... The natural look is very appealing to me. If it takes a little war paint for the women to get looking good in her mind, well, that`s ok too. I just prefer my women not to look like they are going to a clown convention. The thread Lysis is refering to from the lounge has some really nice pictures of natural faces in it.
 
I don't have a preference, per se. It's a very individual thing.

Whatever makes her happiest is really where its at, for me.

But I do think the pressure to wear makeup to appear good (among other things men don't have to go through) is a very odd cultural phenomenon and certainly is characteristic of a patriarichal society. I'm against patriarichal societies with an ardent passion.

"Mother Earth. Raped Again. 'Hey, she was askin' for it.'"

:|
 
I've thought that too, men always say they prefer a woman without makeup but maybe what they mean is they prefer women with flawless skin and natural beauty.

Not all of us are lucky enough to have that so need a little make up to enhance our features. I don't cover my face in it but if i don't wear concealer/mascara/blush people always ask if i'm sick. The 'sick' look is not so attractive last i heard.
 
It is possible those men who state they like a woman without make-up don't know it takes about 6-10 steps for the natural look :)

I started wearing make-up in my 30's for camouflage. To even out skin tone. Highlight areas to distract from what I don't like. I don't wear make-up for men. I do it for myself. Like clothes. I dress for me, women, mu husband, gay men, and lastly straight dudes. In my 20's I was a Chapstick and moisturizer gal. I like the look of dramatic make-up but I feel like a painted whore when I try it. It is not the attention I want.
 
Makeup used to be a very bourgeoise thing and now it's everywhere.

It might look nice but you're getting a false presentation of the person's health when they wear makeup. Eventually as you fall for the illusion, you're going to one day see the person without makeup on and get a dose of reality.

But then, I'm not into women, so I don't really care. Most of my female friends only wear makeup on special occasions, and they have plenty of guys chasing after them. Makeup is the burka of the western world in some respects. Women are made to feel insecure without it, but I really appreciate women who have bold beauty without any on.
 
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It might look nice but you're getting a false presentation of the person's health when they wear makeup. Eventually as you fall for the illusion, you're going to one day see the person without makeup on and get a dose of reality.
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I really don't dig makeup on girls at all. It's like guys wearing aftershave and hiding their natural scent, completely pointless despite what anyone says. As foreigner said it also gives a false impression of health.. skin is a good indicator of health, it saves me time from asking whether you eat McDonalds for breakfast every day xD

I feel really sorry for women.. you are beautiful already, fuck those magazines and corporations that make you insecure and sell you their shite.

My girlfriend doesn't wear makeup, she can't anyway because she has sensitive skin, and I love the way she looks. Most girls her age are already smearing tons of makeup on and all look the fucking same. It makes her that much more beautiful to me.
 
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