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kingofnewyork

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I check this forum from time to time for feedback and alot of the time there are very informative posts and opionions expressed here which i respect.DO NOT GET IT TWISTED THIS IS NOT TROLLING.iAlot of time i see people saying dont drop bombs take time off blah blah blah the magic is lost blah blah THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT.what these people forget to metion is although we are all humans we react to substances differently and what works for you may not work for someone else. Cse in point i see alot of threads dont trip back to back weekends dont redose this is bullshit.Now im not saying go buck wild and try to drop bombs everyday but if you do no one and i mean no one can say its going toi affect you in any way or another.If you do any substance in excess it can affect you in one way or another i dont care if its aspirin ,weed, liquor whatever.If i drop bombs every weekend for years straight it mght have ZERO side effects i also can feel the mdma feeling every single time i do it that is if i am ingesting mdma.Is mdma toxic?I guess if the science says it is it probably is THIS IS NOT what i am disputing because so is cigarettes and alot of other things.
The single most thing that i never see mentioned is the reason why people feel that x doesnt work for them like it did the first time is this.When you first drop bombs you really are not in tuned mentally or physically for the feeling it gives you so its a new expierience.After time you know what to expect the same with weed the same with most substances ect.Im not saying that this feeling is alwas the case because you are not always ingesting the same substance constantly also my point my main point is just because i feel a certain way or it affects me in a certain way it might not be the same for YOU.Its is laughable when i see these threads"USED molly for a month long term damage" are you fucking serious" or "did i lose the magic" what come the fuck on.We are using substances i can do coke on time and drop dead while other people can use it everyday and nothing will happen to them .It is YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY it will affect people some way nd others differntly bottom fucking line.
I personally cannot count how many bombs i have dropped or how much K i have ingested not to brag but i have been around the block but its alot and i have also been through stretches where i have done it for days n end mixed it with plenty of other shit at times K or Tina or ghb throughout a binge i have partied for days or weeks on end with no discernable damage.The whole reason i am saying this is because its me it worked for me it might not work the same for you your ha bits might not be the sameyou might want to treat things differntly.
 
An analogy to what you're saying is this: "Not everyone who drives drunk as shit has a wreck and dies, it only happens to some people, so its stupid to tell people not to do it. I drive drunk all the time and I haven't wrecked yet, that's how I know this."

I agree that people get very preachy and holier-than-thou on here, but that doesn't mean that the warnings they give are wrong.
 
Completely unreadable post.

If you want people to take this post serious and start a discussion, check your grammar and try again.
 
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An analogy to what you're saying is this: "Not everyone who drives drunk as shit has a wreck and dies, it only happens to some people, so its stupid to tell people not to do it. I drive drunk all the time and I haven't wrecked yet, that's how I know this."

I agree that people get very preachy and holier-than-thou on here, but that doesn't mean that the warnings they give are wrong.
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nope you missed it too basically what i was trying to point out is people are trying and looking for excuses based upon what other people are advising based on their own opinons and expirienceand im saying tryit out for yourself dont just base it around what other people say its a crap shoot you got a 50/50 chance everyone is different also im not saying take 10 hits at once go for it youll be ok im saying when people say "its been 3 months since i last did molly will i lose the magic" who the fuck knows man go for it you might not feel the same as the other times you did it is that losing the magic come one man.im not trying to be wreckless or trying to put anyone in a bad spot just saying dont be all shook because of what other people say
 
scureto1 said:
An analogy to what you're saying is this: "Not everyone who drives drunk as shit has a wreck and dies, it only happens to some people, so its stupid to tell people not to do it. I drive drunk all the time and I haven't wrecked yet, that's how I know this."

I agree that people get very preachy and holier-than-thou on here, but that doesn't mean that the warnings they give are wrong.
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nope you missed it too basically what i was trying to point out is people are trying and looking for excuses based upon what other people are advising based on their own opinons and expirienceand im saying tryit out for yourself dont just base it around what other people say its a crap shoot you got a 50/50 chance everyone is different also im not saying take 10 hits at once go for it youll be ok im saying when people say "its been 3 months since i last did molly will i lose the magic" who the fuck knows man go for it you might not feel the same as the other times you did it is that losing the magic come one man.im not trying to be wreckless or trying to put anyone in a bad spot just saying dont be all shook because of what other people say
 
kingofnewyork - You sound like some idiot drug dealer who is pissed off that their customers are being responsible about MDMA use. MDMA is not a drug to be used frequently. It works on very different parts of the brain then other drugs like alcohol, cocaine, speed, etc.

It's called a tolerance break dude. Nobody here likes taking big fat doses to get a 30 minute buzz then fuck their brain redosing with tons of MDMA to get high, when you could wait 3 months and roll 6 hours on 1-2 pills

Seriously 'kingofnewyork' - The only misinformation being spewed here is from you. You ain't no king son, you ain't shit. You are probably some douche wanna-be drug dealer that lives with his mommy and is pissed off nobody's buying your bunk shit. GTFOH
 
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kingofnewyork - You sound like some idiot drug dealer who is pissed off that their customers are being responsible about MDMA use. MDMA is not a drug to be used frequently. It works on very different parts of the brain then other drugs like alcohol, cocaine, speed, etc.

It's called a tolerance break dude. Nobody here likes taking big fat doses to get a 30 minute buzz then fuck their brain redosing with tons of MDMA to get high, when you could wait 3 months and roll 6 hours on 1-2 pills

Seriously 'kingofnewyork' - The only misinformation being spewed here is from you. You ain't no king son, you ain't shit. You are probably some douche wanna-be drug dealer that lives with his mommy and is pissed off nobody's buying your bunk shit. GTFOH
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why are you so mad i guess people cant form their own opinions.nobody here likes taking big fat doses that is your opinion but saying that harm will come fromthat is also your opinion.and personally attacking me over a message board cause your the mod whatever man.hate internet tough guys for real son i been going out since fuckin 92 worked in just about every fuckin nightclub in nyc that im sure you never been too or could never get passed the doorman limelight palladium clubusa sound fucking factory twilo fine whatevr your a mod take you glowsticks give someone a cool "light show" sniff some vicks and go listen to deadmau5 or tiesto whoever is headlining the next festival you go to goddam i can even fuckin believe this shit
 
kingofnewyork said:
why are you so mad i guess people cant form their own opinions.nobody here likes taking big fat doses that is your opinion but saying that harm will come fromthat is also your opinion.and personally attacking me over a message board cause your the mod whatever man.hate internet tough guys for real son i been going out since fuckin 92 worked in just about every fuckin nightclub in nyc that im sure you never been too or could never get passed the doorman limelight palladium clubusa sound fucking factory twilo fine whatevr your a mod take you glowsticks give someone a cool "light show" sniff some vicks and go listen to deadmau5 or tiesto whoever is headlining the next festival you go to goddam i can even fuckin believe this shit
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lol, kingofnewyork... seriously bro...why are you so angry we take tolerance breaks. I hate drug pushers who push shit on people that are trying to keep their minds in a stable state. This is a HARM REDUCTION then forum. Do you have any clue what it means? Doesnt look like it. By the way it sounds your brain is too damaged for you to make clear, legible posts.

Why do you come here to promote heavy drug use on a forum we encourage safety and responsibilty? The only reason I can think is because one of your regular customers told you about the site and now you've got beef because your business is down.
 
The whole point of a forum is to enquire or dispense advice. True, there is a lot of misinformation about drug danger and safety, and an anonymous forum like Bluelight is the finest resolution to this issue. As you say, the effects of drug use may vary from person to person, which is why a massively multi-user discussion forum is more useful than individual case studies. If cautious advice doesn't correspond with your own experiences, I suggest you present your own perspective in the relevant thread, or just choose to disregard it yourself. However, it may prove useful for the individuals it does apply to, so it's inclusion on the site is not to be resented, especially when it's the sort of advice which errs on the side of caution rather than putting people at risk.
 
Alot of time i see people saying dont drop bombs take time off blah blah blah the magic is lost blah blah THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT.
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what these people forget to metion is although we are all humans we react to substances differently and what works for you may not work for someone else.
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Case in point i see alot of threads dont trip back to back weekends dont redose this is bullshit.
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I agree we all react differently but... as humans we do share some similarities.

Are you suggesting having no time off, taking high dose and redosing is a good idea?

Are you suggesting taking a more reckless approach might be better harm reduction for some people?

Is mdma toxic?I guess if the science says it is it probably is THIS IS NOT what i am disputing because so is cigarettes and alot of other things.
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If you agree MDMA is toxic please can you clarify exactly what you are disputing?

The single most thing that i never see mentioned is the reason why people feel that x doesnt work for them like it did the first time is this.When you first drop bombs you really are not in tuned mentally or physically for the feeling it gives you so its a new expierience.After time you know what to expect the same with weed the same with most substances ect.Im not saying that this feeling is alwas the case because you are not always ingesting the same substance constantly also my point my main point is just because i feel a certain way or it affects me in a certain way it might not be the same for YOU.Its is laughable when i see these threads"USED molly for a month long term damage" are you fucking serious" or "did i lose the magic" what come the fuck on.
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Sorry this doesn't make any sense? Please can you reword this to make your point.

We are using substances i can do coke on time and drop dead while other people can use it everyday and nothing will happen to them .
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I cannot think of a single case where using coke evryday will do nothing. This is total nonsense.

It is YOUR MILEAGE WILL VARY it will affect people some way nd others differntly bottom fucking line.
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Yes mileage may vary but as with all things patterns form. From these patterns you take an average approach when it comes to Harm Reduction advice.

Feel free to make a point by all means but please cut out all the four letter words.

I personally cannot count how many bombs i have dropped or how much K i have ingested not to brag but i have been around the block but its alot and i have also been through stretches where i have done it for days n end mixed it with plenty of other shit at times K or Tina or ghb throughout a binge i have partied for days or weeks on end with no discernable damage.
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Maybe you could expand on this a little. Just from some of your choices of words and sentence structures you sound quite young to me. I might be wrong but if you are young do you realise that a lot of these issues you may not feel until later in life?

The whole reason i am saying this is because its me it worked for me it might not work the same for you your ha bits might not be the sameyou might want to treat things differntly.
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Unfortunately a lot of the damage particularly from MDMA comes later. By which time it is far too late to undo any damage. When we give HR advice can we predict this damage? To the nail no we cannot but we can recall on a history of abuse from other members and make a good prediction as to what is likely to happen. With HR because you are crystal balling you have to air on the side of caution and give advice that is not reckless. Regardless of how strong or weak mentally someone might be then following these "predictions" will likely have a positive outcome.

Put it another way what might you suggest as alternative HR advice?

The whole reason i am saying this is because its me it worked for me it might not work the same for you your ha bits might not be the sameyou might want to treat things differntly.
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Sorry again I dont really understand what you are saying here. Picking up on the last few words how would you like to see things treated differently?

im saying tryit out for yourself dont just base it around what other people say its a crap shoot you got a 50/50 chance everyone is different also im not saying take 10 hits at once go for it youll be ok im saying when people say "its been 3 months since i last did molly will i lose the magic" who the fuck knows man go for it you might not feel the same as the other times you did it is that losing the magic come one man.
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All advice has to be based on previous experience it cannot predict the future. If we recall previous history it seems very likely that people that take MDMA on a monthly basis over time get messed up by it. The loss of magic is usually an early warning sign that things are starting to turn for the worse. The exact timing of this no one knows for sure but certainly patterns of symptoms are out there and the HR advice is based on this.

im not trying to be wreckless or trying to put anyone in a bad spot just saying dont be all shook because of what other people say
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If you could clear up exactly what you are saying. I dont really understand this sentence too well.

why are you so mad i guess people cant form their own opinions.nobody here likes taking big fat doses that is your opinion but saying that harm will come fromthat is also your opinion.and personally attacking me over a message board cause your the mod whatever man.
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You have to admit your post is quite provocative? Theres a lot of swearing in it. Dont be surprised that some people give a similiar reaction.

You will find Bluelight tolerant to this post if we can keep this on a discussion level. I personally am happy to hear your opinion.

i been going out since fuckin 92 worked in just about every fuckin nightclub in nyc that im sure you never been too or could never get passed the doorman limelight palladium clubusa sound fucking factory twilo fine whatevr your a mod take you glowsticks give someone a cool "light show" sniff some vicks and go listen to deadmau5 or tiesto whoever is headlining the next festival you go to goddam i can even fuckin believe this shit
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I dont think this is going to help any point you are trying to make.
 
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kingofnewyork, I'm not trying to dogpile on you, but the poor grammar and word choice and run-on.... sentences????? - and lack of punctuation and lack of structure, and the general rambling, make it VERY hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say. You can grumble and say that shouldn't matter.... but it does. You're asking people to understand you, but all they can go by are the characters you type out.

I *THINK* one of your main points is something like this: There is A LOT of individual variation in our responses to various drugs, people should put much less emphasis on how others reacted to drug use, and instead be prepared to carefully try the drug themselves and guage how they react.

If that is one of your points, I have to say that I disagree with you. I think there's quite a lot of commonality among the population - after all, that's why legitimate drugs are so widely used. Basically, you're implicitly questioning the very purpose of Bluelight, which I understand to be harm reduction largely based on the idea that we do have a lot in common, so if a number of people report a certain outcome, the rest of us can benefit from that without having to try it ourselves.
 
kingofnewyork said:
I personally cannot count how many bombs i have drow much K i have ingested not to brag but i have been around the block but its alot and i have also been through stretches where i have done it for days n end mixed it with plenty of other shit at times K or Tina or ghb throughout a binge i have partied for days or weeks on end with no discernable damage.
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flossin, that is all
 
Thank God for those of you ... like Scureto, Squareroot & futura... who are sensible.

Practicing harm reduction and being smart is what makes experiences safe and enjoyable. And King, you're wrong, because there is scientific proof (from unbiased scientists) related to what happens with our serotonin and dopamine during these experiences.
 
U mad bro? No seriously though, your mad because you want to use often but you keep reading the dangers of doing it often so you get defensive and emotional. You don't notice any adverse long term affects because maybe your a tard to begin with or you just are ignorant, face it man doing drugs as often as you are is fucking you up. Look at your grammar and shit, all you do is just type with out going back a few seconds to fix punctuation and capitals and other shit. Is that too much thinking and cognitive work for your brain to just correct a few sentences, stop trying to get people to do drugs more often let alone neurotoxic ones because you want to. Fuck out of here
 
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U mad bro? No seriously though, your mad because you want to use often but you keep reading the dangers of doing it often so you get defensive and emotional. You don't notice any adverse long term affects because maybe your a tard to begin with or you just are ignorant, face it man doing drugs as often as you are is fucking you up. Look at your grammar and shit, all you do is just type with out going back a few seconds to fix punctuation and capitals and other shit. Is that too much thinking and cognitive work for your brain to just correct a few sentences, stop trying to get people to do drugs more often let alone neurotoxic ones because you want to. Fuck out of here
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i aint mad at all my niggas i just laugh at all the bullshit you guys preach and judging by your responces you made my day from bitching about grammar and punctuation and thinking your tough guys who would be my bitches if you were face to face with me.you guys keep doing what your doing ill keep doin my thing having fun trippin balls baggin bitches while you guys post about losing the magic and giving lightshows and being scared bunch of fuckin fags!!!AFTERHOURS IN NYC thats what you bitches dont understand and you never will
 
See, these are the types of people we should not preach to. Let them overdose, live a less happy and shorter life. Do you know what massive doses of Ketamine do you to dude? They destroy your bladder. I've watched documentaries where dudes have to get their bladders removed and they have to stick a tube up their dick everytime they need to pee. So, keep on bombin' K, just hope you have insurance so I don't have to pay for your dumbass. Do you know what happens when you eat too much MDMA? You burn up receptors. Therefore, you can't be as happy.. Which could explain the anger in your post... I don't know why any of us are wasting our time, this is either a joke or we really live in a world with ignorance to this extent. I take E once every 2 months and that is too much sometimes. So, how about you let us preach to your brothers (fellow man) and let them stray away from your path, okay OP? This is a harm reduction website, don't be so shocked to see harm reduction comments.
 
Live fast, die hard and painfully. That's the life of a gangsta like kingofnewyork.

I can't really decide if your binging on PV or E-tarded based on your grammar and language.

Some people care about their health, others don't. I'll sacrifice a bit of extra short term fun/getting fucked up, for a few more decades of life, and happiness and health. And not being chronically depressed/mentally impaired from mdma abuse.
 
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