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Is using mdma once a month considered abuse or dangerous?

Doesn't depend, it will catch up to you at that rate. 3 months is what i say is minimum , and i have a lot of background on the subject. Play it safe
 
well prove it smarty pants. wheres your reference, peer reviewed journal article, blah blah blah? is what (capital) I say.

everyones brain is different therefor it depends.

in saying that ALWAYS err on the side of caution, OBVIOUSLY
 
Well the question was is it considered abuse or dangerous. I would think the general consensus based on reports of past and current users is that once a month is too frequent and once every three months is a good rule of thumb.
 
it depends the kind of life you have, the kind of food you eat and of course how much you take once a month
If you do sports everyday during the hole month and also you have a healthy diet, probably you will have almost no problems rolling once a month with a regular dose and not REDOSING

anyway KEEP IT SAFE, if you realize you need more mdma in order to be higher than before, that is a sign that you are increasing the risks,
THERE ARE ALWAYS SIGNALS, BIG ONES, TRY TO READ THEM AND RESPOND

CHEERS!!
 
3 month MININUM

We need to stop being ok with one month minimums... shulgin says 3 or 4 times per year... once a month will catch up with you... cant keep your head in the clouds forever!!!
 
laugh said:
well prove it smarty pants. wheres your reference, peer reviewed journal article, blah blah blah? is what (capital) I say.

everyones brain is different therefor it depends.

in saying that ALWAYS err on the side of caution, OBVIOUSLY
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I already did that for you in another thread, but you decided to ignore me because apparently, you're different from every other person on this Earth and can roll as often as you want with no consequences. I'm sure your superior serotonin system puts us all in our place 8)


Once a month is dangerous. End of story. Humans are not meant to physically release serotonin themselves... whether it's once a month, or once a week, your are down regulating your Serotonin system. You've been told this by several very smart members who have previously abused ecstasy and dealt with the damage it WILL caused, you can either choose to ignore us and continue damaging yourself, or take this knowledge to heart and make an attempt to roll a bit safer. Your choice.
 
Once a month CAN be dangerous. I'm sorry Folley but IMO you can't look at this in a black/white manner when stuff as complex as brain chemistry is involved, add to that dosage, lifestyle, supplements and the small differences between peoples brains and I don't think once a month is dangerous 100% of the time. I think it can be done whilst still staying safe if you take the neccesary precautions and back-out when you feel tolerance building or something.
 
dezz said:
and back-out when you feel tolerance building or something.
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Well then it's no longer once a month use.... what I'm trying to say is that if you use once a month, consistently, serotonin downregulation is going to catch up with you. It's a scienctifical fact that frequently heightened levels of serotonin will destroy serotonin axons and cause normal levels of serotonin to be less effective than they should be.


If you use once, and again once a month later, that's not going to do much damage... but if you keep it up for 5+ months your going to start to notice tolerance problems, and if you continue after that you're going to get the same problems as the rest of us.



Every brain is a little different, but they all work in the same way. You might be a BIT more resistant to damage than others are, I thought I was one of them back in the day... but if you keep ABUSING the drug, it will make a bitch out of you.


I still take one month breaks in between some rolls... but I know that roll is going to be less magical and have a harsh comedown, so I'm always sure to take a full 3 month break after it. You can use once a month for a few months and be fine, the most important part is that you give yourself a few months every once in a while to recover from the damage that MDMA causes just by getting you high
 
1 month is generally ok, i prefer 3. But if you must, MAKE IT THE FULL 31 DAYS. Not 30, not 29......31! Everyday off this stuff counts. Theres too many variables to go ahead and say one month all the time is ok. I have a friend that rolls every month and he seems just fine. Everyone is diff though. I personally dont think id want to do it monthly all the time.
 
I would say one month is way too frequent. Three months minimum I would agre with.

My opinion is based on my own experiences and hearing reports from other users on BL.

As a result I think taking MDMA once a month is abuse and potentiallly dangerous.

Taking once every three months is absolute minimum for harm reduction. It is not what I would classify as safe but less dangerous.

Suppliments and fitness help but aren't a replacement for time.
 
its abuse,4 times year is PLENTY...... that shit aint toy,its extremly powerfull,the state of mind is out of this world,its too special,and the days after aint good to be had too often
 
Folley said:
I already did that for you in another thread, but you decided to ignore me because apparently, you're different from every other person on this Earth and can roll as often as you want with no consequences. I'm sure your superior serotonin system puts us all in our place 8)


Once a month is dangerous. End of story. Humans are not meant to physically release serotonin themselves... whether it's once a month, or once a week, your are down regulating your Serotonin system. You've been told this by several very smart members who have previously abused ecstasy and dealt with the damage it WILL caused, you can either choose to ignore us and continue damaging yourself, or take this knowledge to heart and make an attempt to roll a bit safer. Your choice.
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nice attack from nowhere tough guy haha but i dont know what you are on about? as far as im aware i havnt ignored any of your questions, in any thread. where is this proof? anyone can sprout shit act up, wheres the proof? link would be nice

i am different from everyone else, so are you dipstick 8) i still havnt stepped into the fifth dimension to shake my doubles hand, maybe one day. i said i was different not superior or inferior...you know as well as anyone that reads this site that i have recently suffered depression from ecstasy abuse. i was taking it a hell of a lot more than one every month though and i didnt begin to get any serious negative effects for quite some years of this abuse. in saying that im sure there are other people that could have maintained the abuse and faired fine while others would have serious negative effects much earlier...everyone is DIFFERENT and thats a good thing :)

MDMA is the same but it is acting on different variables different heads with different brains with different neurochemistry brother. surely that throws a spanner in your one size fits all approach?

i understand the hr aspect of this thread but lets not just slap on a general warning sticker and treat everyone like sheep

i will respect people on here for what they have written not by their status or post count...thanks for telling me who to listen to though lol
 
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I'm sure your superior serotonin system puts us all in our place
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i am different from everyone else, so are you dipstick
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Please dont hurl personal insults destroys the conversation.

MDMA is the same but it is acting on different variables different heads with different brains with different neurochemistry brother. surely that throws a spanner in your one size fits all approach?
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I think we have to generalise to a point otherwise HR advice becomes Null and Void.

From what I have seen on Bluelight patterns do form.

Yes we are different but if you look at the long term come downs people experience the symptoms are usually text book.

Have you ever seen someone on here complaining with comedown issues because they have been taking 4 Es per year probabaly not.

I think there is a lot we can generalise with.

i understand the hr aspect of this thread but lets not just slap on a general warning sticker and treat everyone like sheep
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I disagree with this. To be safe and give HR advice you have to air on the side of caution. Suggesting once a month might be okay depending on your genetic make up or how often you go to the gym in my opinion would be poor advice.

I hear time and time again examples of how taking MDMA within one month cycles causes problems. I even experienced this myself.

I think this thread is excellent as it really has thrashed out our thoughts on this one month break idea and by all accounts it would seem the majority agree one month is tailoring on abuse.
 
F1n1shed said:
Doesn't depend, it will catch up to you at that rate. 3 months is what i say is minimum , and i have a lot of background on the subject. Play it safe
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< This.

You can get away with bending the rules for a while, but MDMA is not the sort of thing you want to play with and "wait til it catches up with you".

Dose is also another factor. f you;re taking less than 100 mgs once a month, you'll likely take longer to feel a big crash than someone who is takin several hundred mgs each time.

I find 90 days (a theory many experts on the topic, including Shulgin, have) is ideal, but a lot of people have a hard time adhering to this all the time.
 
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nice attack from nowhere tough guy haha but i dont know what you are on about? as far as im aware i havnt ignored any of your questions, in any thread. where is this proof? anyone can sprout shit act up, wheres the proof? link would be nice

i am different from everyone else, so are you dipstick 8) i still havnt stepped into the fifth dimension to shake my doubles hand, maybe one day. i said i was different not superior or inferior...you know as well as anyone that reads this site that i have recently suffered depression from ecstasy abuse. i was taking it a hell of a lot more than one every month though and i didnt begin to get any serious negative effects for quite some years of this abuse. in saying that im sure there are other people that could have maintained the abuse and faired fine while others would have serious negative effects much earlier...everyone is DIFFERENT and thats a good thing :)

MDMA is the same but it is acting on different variables different heads with different brains with different neurochemistry brother. surely that throws a spanner in your one size fits all approach?

i understand the hr aspect of this thread but lets not just slap on a general warning sticker and treat everyone like sheep

i will respect people on here for what they have written not by their status or post count...thanks for telling me who to listen to though lol
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/643826-MDMA-every-day?p=10919071#post10919071

I'm not attacking you, I'm correcting a post that might get a newbie in trouble.... sometimes it's hard for me to make a distinction between the two, that's my bad.


I explained this all to you before, and you simply dismissed it because "everyone is different". No, everyone is largely the same.... our brains all work in the same basic way, if they didn't you would be a mutant" It's the tiny differences between us is what makes you, you.

MDMA is neurotoxic in it's very action. In addition to that, it creates a neurotoxic metabolite that will destroy serotonin terminals and cause havoc to the brain, it's called alpha-methyldopamine.

Like the lovely Siren said, you can get away with bending the rules for a bit, but it will catch up to you in the end if you keep at it.


and dude, I've answered more threads in ED in the past year than most of the current mods combined... so don't even try saying that my post count is from a bunch of social threads like those preppy kids in The Lounge
 
Setting is also a factor. The irony of MDMA is that the most popular place to take it is also the worst. In a clinical setting, body temp raises only slightly. But in a club, while dancing and around other overheated bodies, is when body temp can really rise. Studies with rats have shown a relationship between room temp and neurotoxicity:

"At elevated room temperatures (26–33 8C), both the hyperthermic response and the neurotoxicity are potentiated" (Broening et al., 1995, Sanchez et al., 2004).

from: "A review of the mechanisms involved in the acute MDMA (ecstasy)-induced hyperthermic response" A. Richard Green, Esther O’Shea, M. Isabel Colado
 
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