how many times does this need to be explained to you, futura2012?
Space this isnt about what happened at your forum its about a thread that got pulled and also many other threads in ED where the *** word keeps gettng mentioned.
It causes confusion as the thread on your forum even the title says the name the rest of us are banned from using.
the australian thread is about an australian academic researcher who is a respected bluelighter.
she has been making a lot of media appearances of late (in regard to this unspoken phenomenon). we are proud of her - she has been doing some fascinating and very valuable studies on drugs in the digital age.
I actually like the thread I think it is excellent I can see why you are so proud but the issue > is that no one else is allowed to even say *** let alone start a thread about it.
the message she is helping get into the community works along the same lines as much of bluelight's mission; to dispel myths, share facts, break down prejudices about drug use and drug users.
I am under no illusions as to the content and quality she provides. However, this topic by its very nature provides sourcing information. Even mention of the word provides sourcing information. If you start discussing courier methods, post inspection methods, number of busts etc. All this is creating a Users Guide on How to Order Drugs through the mail.
The irony with this is I actually condone the thread. I have no issues with a screenshot of ***. the information is nothing new to anyone. Its all over Google. Yes discussing it does dispell myths, share facts and I am all for it.
The issue to me is it seems rules for one and other rules for others. This in my opinion is not fair.
i have actually explained this to you in Aus DD but i'm guess you either didn't read it, or you are intent on pushing the rules.
I have been very courteous to you always in Aus DD. I have read what you said and have always obeyed what you said. I have no intention of pushing any rules.
the posts you have pulled out are lacking in their original context - not that i am defending them, or it - but the decision was made (by the other, very competent Aus DD mods before i became a moderator) to keep the thread. it is discussed at length - surely you've read the back-and-forth on the subject within the actual thread. i was not a party to this decision being made, but i can assure you that it would not have been a decision made without due consideration.
All the posts were complete sentences. Maybe one might become out of context isolated but I think the general topic is understood. Put it this way add any of those sentences in this forum and it will get pulled or edited. I wouldnt be surprised if I added one of those sentences in other Aus DD threads it would get pulled.
No one is doubting your decision or even suggesting the *** thread is wrong but having to put *** instead of saying the word yet there is an entire Blue Light thread about it just seems madness. Thats at least how I see it anyway.
the picture you have posted has been edited out. you are misrepresenting it here anyway - it was the graphic for a news story that an aussie bluelighter posted. the news story was ok, the picture isn't.
In my opinion a picture is a picture. It could have a Just say no to drugs comment underneath it. It doesnt make it be less of a source in anyway. I dont see how a picture of an entire screenshot was mispresented.
this is the second time i've seen you re-post it. it's not necessary, and it makes the Aus DD thread look a lot worse than it is.
I am sorry about the picture I was trying to make a point. I can see how you feel this is OTT.
I am not trying to make out the Aus DD thread is bad in anyway. It just seems to have an "alternative set of rules" for that one thread.
I accept the offending pic has now been pulled but it had been there for quite a while. From my own experience of Aus DD even mention of ebay got pulled within about an hour.
regardless, that picture is no longer there because somebody reported it. reporting something is the way you alert staff of a potential breach of the rules and get our attention. we don't always have time to read everything, so if you want to help us out - report stuff that looks dodgy, please.
Fair point I accept that I approached this in the wrong way. For the future I will do as you request.
in the context of ED, the mention of this "source" is different to the context of the discussion on Aus DD.
I dont agree with this. Bluelight is a drug forum. A source is a source. Highlighting the name *** is a source. Discussing it and analysing it provides detailed source analysis. If you read that thread from start to finish if required you now have all the information needed to start purchasing illicit drugs as you now know the Site, you know the network, you know about the risks, you know about bit coins. I really dont get this argument.
each subforum deals with things differently, while there is an overarching "user agreement" that we all must abide to. For example, some subforums do not allow drug discussion. people say things on the lounge that you would get an infraction for saying elsewhere on the site. it is worth thinking about the culture of each subforum and consider abiding by the etiquette of where you are posting.
Totally agree. However, I assume the agreement is the same for all elements of Aus DD.
How is it mention of say you can buy a test kit from *** it very quickly gets pulled. Yet a thread is titled
The Drug's in the Mail - The Silk Road and our very own Tronica! Whats the difference?
Looking over the topics dicsussed in Aus DD. I have just taken the top 5
The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 2
Methamphetamine Discussion Thread
Mushroom Season 2012
Australian ayahuasca?
WARNING: Facebook pills
bar one of those titles I dont see a great difference of discussion topic to warrant no use of source in ED yet sourcing threads in Aus DD in some cases are okay.
i think rather than trying to challenge bluelight's user agreement you should make an effort to understand it - and the reason for it - first. if you think something is unjust, then there are appropriate ways of bringing this up with bluelight staff. this is not the way.
It seems a shame that an open discussion like this cannot happen. This is a topic that comes up time and time again in ED. i also notice a few users complaining about stuff being pulled in Aus DD also.
PMing a mod is fine but its a closed discussion. I am not challenging the user agreement. Just trying to have an open discussion about a few unclear issues.
if you're offended that i edited your post, i can only suggest that you be mindful of the BLUA next time you post photos of how to manufacture bunk pills.
Im not offended I just felt it was a bit fierce. Clearly you are the mod your word is how it goes.
On the topic of misrepresenting I think you are doing this here. The thread was a warning from someone about a particularly nasty Facebook Pill that had hit the streets. Immediately users were concerned the thread was going to get pulled. The pill did by all accounts look very very nasty and it was specific to Australia so what I did was add some pics and bring in an HR discussion to the thread. To quote your own words I wanted to dispel myths, share facts, break down prejudices about drug use and drug users.
I really dont think 5 pics is a "how to manufacture bunk pills" in its entirety. If you actually wanted to do it you would have to research the topic in further detail watching videos on Utube and the like. The main point was to add more of a conversation to the thread than just a warning that might get dunked in Pill reports.
Based on the responses I saw people quite liked it and then moaned a bit when it got pulled. I do stand by my decision there. But.. I also respect your decision.
bluelight has strict rules that we make every effort to abide by and enforce, lest we turn into some third-rate drug forum like some of the ones i'm sure you are familiar with.
I am very familiar with a third rate drug forum and bluelight is leaps and bounds ahead of all the competition.
I certainly dont want this to happen here. As a result I respect what ever decision you or our mods make.
you seem like you have a lot of knowledge and intelligence to offer this community, don't go fucking it up for yourself over some hurt pride.
TY. You do also. I have a lot of respect for you SJ as I think your posts are really informative and I think you run a tight ship in Aus DD.
I accept the ** screen shot picture post was OTT and was a mistake. I am sorry about that. You are right that is sailing close to the wind.
My pride is not hurt. I have had some pics pulled in Aus DD and had a thread pulled in ED. I just want to clear some things up. I thought an open discussion might achieve two things (1) Be interesting & challenging (2) Iron stuff out.
