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Regional Heroin Discussion v. Sweet Sixteen (v16)

got my 14 oxy's now - well 13 n a half now but still got lots of gear in my system gonna lay off the gear this w/e if I can and just snort 1/2 an oc80 when apropriate. It normally takes a day or so yo attune myself to the high as its not the same as gear - but nice all the same.

Gonna take a day off next week and geta couple of stones - its not very good down here but i just smoke double the normal amount in a hit and i just about get there.
 
BAh got some gear today that wasnt as good as i was hoping, shot 100mg and got a slight rush though, i fucking terrible at shooting up it took 15 tries to register and keep the needle in, are you meant to push the tip all the way in the vein if using a short tip? because thats what i did when i finally got it in and staying in, as usually my hands shake so much i end up missing the shot cause i register, pull back and by then the tips poked through the vein or something :(, missed 90% of a big snowball the other day which i was gutted about since it was my first time injecting coke (decent coke too) and i would've been blasted off my feet!
 
BAh got some gear today that wasnt as good as i was hoping, shot 100mg and got a slight rush though, i fucking terrible at shooting up it took 15 tries to register and keep the needle in, are you meant to push the tip all the way in the vein if using a short tip? because thats what i did when i finally got it in and staying in, as usually my hands shake so much i end up missing the shot cause i register, pull back and by then the tips poked through the vein or something :(, missed 90% of a big snowball the other day which i was gutted about since it was my first time injecting coke (decent coke too) and i would've been blasted off my feet!

Dude, please go to this link and wait for it to download/ press the skip ad button, before you consider injecting again and fucking ur body up. Its a link detailing proper IV procedure for drug users, and tells you how to avoid missing etc. Im not encouraging you, but it pains me to read about anyone whos fuckin themselves up due to bad practice or lack of knowledge. Take care

http://adf.ly/1023322/http://harmreduction.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/getting-off-right.pdf
 
PROPER GEAR back in my town ! I had forgotten what the PROPER HEROIN was like ! I have been wasting my money for so long on crap, feel like such an idiot for it.

By the way mate long time no see, ur one of the old school crew, hows it goin? You used to have a little stick man type logo didnt ya? Anyway dont think I ever knew where about in wilts u were from we talkin Swindon or Chippenham? Peace
 
Dude, please go to this link and wait for it to download/ press the skip ad button, before you consider injecting again and fucking ur body up. Its a link detailing proper IV procedure for drug users, and tells you how to avoid missing etc. Im not encouraging you, but it pains me to read about anyone whos fuckin themselves up due to bad practice or lack of knowledge. Take care

http://adf.ly/1023322/http://harmreduction.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/getting-off-right.pdf

Brilliant thankyou very muh :) i'll have a more in-depth read when im goiuching abit less, one thing which must be obvious to everyone but not me, when using 1/2 or 5/8 pins, do you push the needle in all the way to the barrel? that was the only way i could get a clean decent & easy shot this morning and the only one that isn't slightly bruised now, the one on the far left just below my elbow. The problem is if i'm only meant to put a bit of the piun in my hands shake so much when trying to draw back on the plunger that by the time i've hit i'm out the vein again.

Probably fucked em up more this week than years of experienced use. Ah well, i'll have internet at my place on wednesday so can follow instructions online, definitely need to rotate iv spots and be more careful though, thanks again for the link

But i digress, the gears alright not great but i've had worse, tan brown colour runs dark on foil.
quick q does meth increase your tolerance to opiates rapidly? because i've been doing a bit over the last few weeks and even when i've been off it a few days i need much more gear to get to where i wanna go
 
Warro PapaverSom Son,

Glad to see you enjoyed your trip mate. There may be an easier way however , when searching for the next thread i Log in , click " New Posts " and scroll down til i see a post by a known face & 9 times out of 10 it's the new thread that they've posted in .
 
BAh got some gear today that wasnt as good as i was hoping, shot 100mg and got a slight rush though, i fucking terrible at shooting up it took 15 tries to register and keep the needle in, are you meant to push the tip all the way in the vein if using a short tip? because thats what i did when i finally got it in and staying in, as usually my hands shake so much i end up missing the shot cause i register, pull back and by then the tips poked through the vein or something :(, missed 90% of a big snowball the other day which i was gutted about since it was my first time injecting coke (decent coke too) and i would've been blasted off my feet!

If you cant do it properly then dont do it at all - get a friend to help to stop the shakes try smoking a couple of lines - and yes all the needle should be in unless you are trying small veins but as you are new to this you should have decent ones in the crook of your arm BUT be warned there are very few peoploe who go back to smoking once you have started fixing yer gear/crack etc.....speedballs are what destroyed all my veins, 20 years of shooting fucked up with 18 months on coke and speed balls.
 
^true. compared to some stuff b seems relatively easy on the veins. shot a load of ethylphenidate and really fucked shit up more than 7/8 months IV h, giving some time off for the veins hoping they reappear.

i don't always have the needle alll the way in? anyway, it's not good to do. smoking is more fun i think.
 
Aye i know its a bad road to go down and i know where it'l probably end, yeah i still got decent veins since i'm (fairly) new to IVing. Bought a tourniquet online anyways so that should help, gonna rotate and let my fuckup from the other day heal before i try the crooks in my arm again, i got noone to teach me to do it properly :/. Still i'll try not to make it a regular thing, access is limited anyways i much prefer snorting to smoking aswel, but next time i score il have a proper smoking sesh its probably cause i'm more used to snorting and waste a shitload when i smoke it due to bad technique. Had a little bit of meth but my tolerance to that seems to have tripled over 2 weeks? Weird

Anyways i'm babbling on, noone from leeds ever seems to post in this thread
 
I find a thin silk tie makes a great tourniquet, since I've never been able to track down one of the proper rubber medical ones. I rarely use them these days anyway since the local needle exchange has a ready supply of butterfly clips, which makes it easy to hit veins and have a steady shot without having to pump the veins up.

It's probably not a bad idea to practice with sterile water if you have easy access to syringes, that way when you do have drugs you don't have to worry about messing up. I taught myself too and the first few months were a real exercise in frustration. If you know any nurses/doctors or other medical types you could try talking to them, I picked up a fair bit by just paying careful attention when getting blood tests.
 
For the sake of harm reduction, here is how to make a tooter. Tooting is less risky all round than injecting:
  1. It doesn't involve needles.
  2. You ingest the drug gradually, and the dosage level that would render you incapable of smoking any more is well below potentially lethal.
Inhaling vapours can be safer than inhaling powders, and more of the drug enters the bloodstream from smoking than from snorting.

It is, of course, by no means perfectly safe. It involves dangerous drugs and naked flames. Also, note that inevitable improvements over time in smoking technique can go some way towards disguising a developing tolerance -- the need to consume more of the drug each time to get to the same level of high is offset by the fact that you are taking in a larger proportion of the same-sized sample each time, at least until you reach maximum ingestion efficiency.

This is one way to make a tooter. It is not the only way, but it is the best one I know:

  1. Take a strip of aluminium cooking foil 6 cm. by 16 cm, a 6-sided pencil or ballpoint pen, and a cigarette paper.
  2. Cut off just the gummed strip from the cigarette paper and discard the remainder.
  3. Place the strip of foil lengthwise on a flat surface, shiny side down.
  4. Fold a 1 cm. width of foil at the right-hand edge back on itself (so there is now 1 cm. of shiny side on the top).
  5. Fold up the lower left-hand corner so it meets the top edge, and forms a 45 degree angle at the upper left-hand corner.
  6. Fold the upper left-hand corner down to the newly-formed 135-degree corner, so there is now a 90-degree angle in the middle of the left hand end.
  7. Turn over the foil so the shiny side is now on top; with the point at the left-hand end, the fold nearest to you and the corner touching a corner away from you.
  8. Starting at the top edge, wrap the foil around the 6-sided pencil or pen. The two separate-but-touching double layers will be innermost, so the next layer that gets wrapped around will hold them in contact.
  9. Lick the gummed paper strip and use it like adhesive tape to bind the whole assembly together.

You now have a hexagonal tube, 12 cm. long by about 8 mm. across, with a chisel point at one end (the inlet) and the other end (the mouthpiece) flat. There are 2 ways to use it.

  1. Hold the tooter at an angle of 45 degrees with the aperture facing down, so the chiselled end is parallel to the foil if the latter is held horizontally. This presents maximum catchment area to the smoke, for inhaling as much of it as possible even if you are not following the beetle exactly.
  2. Hold the tooter at about 30 degrees to the horizontal, with the aperture facing up, so the smoke must travel up and around the end before being caught in the draught of your breath, This method requires more precise positioning and is sensitive to strength of toke.

Method (1) is easiest for a beginner. Method (2) is better for building up a "bonus beetle" of condensed vapours around the aperture (the tube can be unwrapped when one's stash is exhausted, and this smoked through a fresh tube). As a crude form of chromatography (the constituents with the lowest boiling points will tend to travel the furthest before recondensing), it can provide useful clues as to the purity of the original specimen. And any adulterants which did not evaporate in the heat of the lighter flame will not be present in the bonus beetle.

To toot heroin, place a small quantity on a sheet of foil (about 15 cm, by 15 cm. is a reasonable size; larger pieces of foil tend to be unwieldy), heat it from below with a cigarette lighter until it melts, and inhale the vapours through your tooter. To prevent the blob of liquid heroin, or "beetle" from catching fire, you need to tilt the foil gently, so the beetle runs away from the flame. To prevent it from running out of control, you can form a groove by folding and unfolding the foil. Just before your lungs are full and you cannot breathe in anymore, release the trigger on the lighter; then depress it again without sparking the flint, so as to release a blast of unburned gas. This will be at the boiling point of the fuel (about 0°C for butane gas) and so will help to remove residual heat from the beetle, solidifying it quickly and preventing flare-ups.

The most common beginner's error is simply letting too much of the precious smoke escape. Get a friend to help you by letting you know if you are missing (or try video-recording yourself).
 
Man u should go to a needle exchange and ask to do a safe injecting workskop,they should show u best practice.At the rate u are goin u are gonna lose veins before u ever get to use them.And banging coke numbs the area so u dont notice the pain if u miss.If u are injecting u should be always able to get yourself first time all the time or u are wasting your time(and money)Have a smoke and a sniff instead:-)
BAh got some gear today that wasnt as good as i was hoping, shot 100mg and got a slight rush though, i fucking terrible at shooting up it took 15 tries to register and keep the needle in, are you meant to push the tip all the way in the vein if using a short tip? because thats what i did when i finally got it in and staying in, as usually my hands shake so much i end up missing the shot cause i register, pull back and by then the tips poked through the vein or something :(, missed 90% of a big snowball the other day which i was gutted about since it was my first time injecting coke (decent coke too) and i would've been blasted off my feet!
 
By the way mate long time no see, ur one of the old school crew, hows it goin? You used to have a little stick man type logo didnt ya? Anyway dont think I ever knew where about in wilts u were from we talkin Swindon or Chippenham? Peace

Hey Papaversom !

I've been on here regular since when the drought first hit for me (November 2010) , whether or not that makes me old school crew I don't know but I've been following and posting in this particular thread since the very start after doing a google search on something like "ho heroin in the uk" when I was all of a sudden unable to score any gear whatsoever !

There was then all of a sudden a rise in availability just after Christmas from what I remember, but about 90% of it was bashed to death or had no gear at all in it ! Since then I round my way I think in general there's been a steady increase in quality with a few periods of drought like gear here and there ! For some reason Bank Holidays always seem to be drought days. Anyone else had that ?

At the moment however things are the best they have been in some time. 10 bags are back (for ages it was 20s only !) and I have several contacts who will always have decent, if not great gear. Had some really random looking dark tackle on Friday which looked like raw opium ! It was very dark, putty like and almost black with cloudy patches in it, looked evil, like it could easily kill you ! Thankfully it didn't and turned out to pack a bit of a punch ! But best of all was the stuff I scored yesterday, a Yellowy brown hard rock which went orangey-brown in the pin and gave me a nod from one 10 bag ! Lovely stuff I hope it comes back soon (the dealer isn't from round here).

I'm not in either of those towns that you mention, I'm the other side of Wiltshire ? If you're interested in where send me a PM and I'll let you know ;)
 
If u are injecting u should be always able to get yourself first time all the time or u are wasting your time(and money)Have a smoke and a sniff instead:-)

Totally disagree with you Here timyH. I get myself first time probably about 10-20% of the time but I still get myself in the end so I might be wasting a bit of time yes , but how am I wasting my money more than if I smoked or sniffed it ?? Don't understand that at all. If you think I'm wasting my money then you must think that buying smack in general is a waste of money ?
 
^^^

I think what Timy meant was sniff the coke & smoke the gear. Defiantly is a safer option! As someone pointed out earlier in the thread once you have a turn on you rarely go back to just smoking gear & snorting coke.

ColourfulKornos is probably better off waiting till he has someone there with him to show him how to inject, that way he won't waste his gear/coke. Or the work-shop that Timy suggested is also a good idea.
 
Totally disagree with you Here timyH. I get myself first time probably about 10-20% of the time but I still get myself in the end so I might be wasting a bit of time yes , but how am I wasting my money more than if I smoked or sniffed it ?? Don't understand that at all. If you think I'm wasting my money then you must think that buying smack in general is a waste of money ?

Money spent on something u enjoy is never money wasted.But missing a shot is a waste of drugs.At least if you smoked the gear and sniffd the c you would get a buzz instead of a numb lump in your arm:-).If u can get yourself its great but the guy id replied to didnt know what he was doing.
 
Money spent on something u enjoy is never money wasted.But missing a shot is a waste of drugs.At least if you smoked the gear and sniffd the c you would get a buzz instead of a numb lump in your arm:-).If u can get yourself its great but the guy id replied to didnt know what he was doing.

Yes its dangerous messing around with needles if you don't know what your doing, the work-shops that you mentioned earlier Timy sound like a great idea! I always stuck to smoking when it came to gear. I have never injected, thankfully i don't know how to inject so that helped me stay away from the needle in moments of weakness!

A few times during the drought i was very tempted to have a turn on, with the gear been so weak i thought that it might seem a bit stronger if i injected, but thankfully i didn't! I was walking through the city centre a few weeks ago on my way home from work when i saw a guy that i used to know, i hadn't seen him in 20 years, a nice guy. He has been using heroin as long as i know him. Anyway i nearly died when i saw him coz he was in a wheelchair & both of his legs were missing! :( He was tapping & the garda were moving him on so i didn't get a chance to talk to him, but i was so shocked to see that he was missing both of his legs, he is around my age maybe a few years older, but he is no older then 45.

I asked another mate what had happened to him & he said that it was from years of shooting up & abscesses ect. Its was so sad to see him like that :( I'm so sorry now that i didn't wait for the garda to go away so i could have gone over to him to say hello, i feel really bad about it, but i honestly got such a shock! I wasn't even totally sure if it was him, but the story fitted when i asked a mutual mate of ours. I hadn't seen this bloke in 20 years so he may not even remember me.

Anyway i'm more sure now then ever now that i won't inject, i've lasted all these years without doing it so i'm sure i'll manage with-out it! So i totally agree with you Timy when you say its safer to stick to smoking gear/sniffing coke if your not sure how to inject, its not something to mess around with! Its scary when you think what can happen & were it can lead to.......
 
But missing a shot is a waste of drugs.

Even a missed shot kicks in eventually. They don't somehow dissapear, it just takes longer for them to work their way into your blood stream. I've found missed shots similar to an IM shot, you lose the rush sadly and maybe slightly less intense since it doesn't peak so suddenly, but it still has a high BA and will get you nicely buzzed.
 
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