I hate when people come on this site and say, i just gave my friend 50mg of oxy for his first time is that okay? Start low you, and work your way up. What if he gets an anxiety attack because his heart is beating out of his chest by now, 80mg is a HUGE dose for a first timer. He is basically tweaking balls on meth, not much of a difference and if he goes to the hospital you should pay the bill. A new person to amps doesn't need more than 20mg, amphetamine. Even that is kind of high, i felt fine on 15mg my first time.