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Tassie pushes to ban cigarette sales to anyone born after the year 2000.

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That's not cutting off demand. It's cutting off supply.
So what happens to the kids that start smoking at 14 illegally (who starts smoking at 18?????)???
I can see why they are trying to do it but it will just make people obtain tobacco illegally.
Are police going to ask people for ID whenever they are smoking???
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It wouldn't be illegal to smoke, it would just be illegal to sell to anyone born after 2000.

I wouldn't shed a tear if they banned gambling.
 
I wouldn't shed a tear if they banned gambling.
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Except that's been tried time and time again, you just end up with illegal, underground casinos controlled by organized crime.

I'm not going to make the obvious parallel, but if people are going to waste their money gambling I'd rather the government profit from it than some gangster.
 
nobody gives a fuck about the health risks, rather the cost they are now having on our struggling health care system and our personal taxes...again it boils down to the holy economy and our supreme leader $$$. where would we be without money...probably a much better place..?

some people can't get past drugs, others can't get past money

if people could profit from banning fat / sugars / h20 there would be people trying damn well hard to do it...doesnt mean its for the good of people or not, if there is money involved look the fuck out...

oxygen will be a future tax potential...potential...if we all got ourselves a new carbon tax you can bet your balls a tax on the air we breathe (the air we haven't polluted to toxicity...yet) will be on its way in the future as we progress...progress...ha ha ha

we always new smokes were unhealthy, obviously...we kept selling them though there was a tasty profit involved...now that the balance has tipped and all the old smokers are fucking up and needing healthcare the profit v expenses are not worth it...

yagecero na i never saw those smokes before...i wonder if the dude i heard on the radio was just a crafty sales rep? haha
 
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The idea of this law was appealing to me straight away, which is unusual as usually I tend to be resistant to most anything (it's the depressive in me leaking out, you see). I still think it's a good idea, perhaps executed slightly differently. But there's still something....

And on another note, Tasmania ftw (always wanted to move there!)

Ash. <3
 
sorry i don't have any references or studies to back that up...

the first time i sucked on a durrie or ripped a bong i knew inhaling all that hot smoke could in no way be beneficial to me. perhaps the carcinogenic properties were not known but people knew sucking up all that smoke and tar was not healthy...didnt they? how stupid are we then...?

its all about the money the only reason anyone is attempting to stamp out smoking now is because of the cost...super sad
 
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Of course it's about money. If there weren't waiting lists in hospitals and soaring government costs the money would be spent on travelators on footpaths and kick arse sporting stadiums. At present the cost to Australia is around $30billion compared to $5billion collected each year in tobacco taxes and duty. Even if the figures are softened 10-20%, that is still a high cost to pay for a habit that until you get addicted brings no obvious benefits.

If junkies didn't rob, steal or have car accidents and didn't cost families and the rest of society any financial ills, there wouldn't even be a war against drugs either.
 
thank you, then why don't they come out and say its about money then instead of feeding us the bullshit that its for our own good / that they are only trying to help the smokers live better/healthier lives?...the aim is not to help save the smokers...the aim is to save themselves paying tax

why do people give to charity...to help the poor the sick...or to make themselves feel better or as a tax right off? greed

there wouldn't be a war against drugs if there wasn't such a massive amount of money to be made from the illegal drugs trade / black market. we need junkies they are great for the economy.

there is much more profit in keeping the illegal drugs trade...
 
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They should just ban tobacco products altogether and create an illegal drug market for cigarettes. That'd solve the problem!
 
haha makes sense, probably better that way as they are most likely to get the best care and with least wait...:\
 
If junkies didn't rob, steal or have car accidents and didn't cost families and the rest of society any financial ills, there wouldn't even be a war against drugs either.
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Come on, let's not pretend that legal and illegal drugs are differentiated by the harm they cause. Tobacco being a prime example.
 
if they bring this law in im sure the people that arent permitted to smoke cigarettes could simply alternatively smoke weed or even vape it, its still a very common thing all over australia and i doubt by 2018 they will have stopped much at all, that being said it would put more money back to people and not necesarrily organisations, i know id rather buy weed over smokes if i was unable to have the cigarettes, i mean its relatively the same price to smoke either plant material if u pace ur self, plus the effects trump tobacco products by far

Santa
 
I don't see this passing, look at how hard the tobacco industry fought just to prevent plain packaging. They'll go balls to the wall to try and block this any way they can.
 
Of course they will, they make a rotten fortune from alcohol and tobacco excise tax. And the price of alcohol and tobacco products increasing slightly every 3 months I think it is from memory, might be 6 months.

Ash. <3
 
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