13th Issue Heroin Discussion v. fuck hope do dope

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the subs i only use when i cant handle the opiate cravings. he gets a script for 8mg strips but only takes 4mg.

and a local crew i know has started to bag pre-dosed bags of molly the same way you'd see heroin. it's kinda interesting.
 
( background )So my dad took off today after being in prison on and off for 27 years.... So he got out two months ago And moved in with me (our first interaction in my life) said he only smokes crack, coke, meth and how heroin is a bad drug and he knows about me goin to Michigan and gettin on h while there and how hard that craving is I'm dealing with and has lectured me abou this and has me with a huge complex about my tracks and says how trouble heroin is and that's y he doesn't do it or want me to because it's the worst drug he wouldn't even touch it..... Blah blah


Well this fucking man (my dad) takes off for a couple days and is now calls me needing a ride emergencey two hours away from my home. I go get him from this crack motel and he is on heroin, he had been in a hotel for 3 days shooting heroin."

Now to my point the heroin is tar and he has zeros tolerance and has been doing it for three days he is now pale green and I didn't see his junk but he is throwing up and sweating dizzy sweating and smoked weed an got even more sick throwing up sweating heart pounding and green pale skin what is this????

Liver failure or signs of it? I did the stupi thing by mentioning emt and e is trying to run if I tell him ambulance or police is coming so he keeps trying to run....(kind if like paranoid meth or crack may have been involved

What the fuck I have been at this for hours trying to get him to go to a clinic...but he doesn't want cops...
He is also havin trouble walking on his own and incoherent... Comes and goes not completely incoherent...

Is this the h or the weed or some bad h or liver...

This is all for curiosity I am still getting my father taking care of him and waiting gr my friend who is an emt so that cops don't come, and she is goin to check him out, but will y'all tell me what y'all think.....

So while I wait will any of you tell me what you think is happening? He's not complaining of pain...
 
Tommyboy said:
^ Do you need the subs for withdrawal or are they just for fun? I can only get a buzz off of them if I take a week off, and then I have to stick to once a week if they are going to have any recreation value for me.
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not once have i been able to catch a buzz off subs..
 
Kayla I know when I have taken too much oxy or heroin I throw up and am very sweaty but it was never Iv'd or mixed with any other drug. Better safe than sorry. Also never locked myself into a room and binged like that opiates make me want to do stuff. I have holed up in the house with a big pile of coke though but never had the reaction you are describing.

Good luck with that.
 
Welderman said:
Kayla I know when I have taken too much oxy or heroin I throw up and am very sweaty but it was never Iv'd or mixed with any other drug. Better safe than sorry. Also never locked myself into a room and binged like that opiates make me want to do stuff. I have holed up in the house with a big pile of coke though but never had the reaction you are describing.

Good luck with that.
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Thank you, I think he mixed it wih an upper. He was addicted to crack and methfor years every time he's not in prison.... So may be too much coke or crack with the h you this?
 
I've tried just about every trick in the book..I literally cannot find a vein anymore. I have a few spider ones that I can hit VERY slowly under a strong light, but still end up with only about 50%..the other 50% misses, and my one spider vein (only can find 2 that i can "half hit") is on my thumb and it blows up like a balloon.

So to avoid abscesses I'm going to take a break from IV. Every single person I know that is in my situation (locally anyways) switches to IM. Either in their ass or thigh or bicep muscle.

My question is, what is is a better high. IM or breaking off the needle and shooting it up the arse? Keep in my mind I get tar around here, so if I don;t get in the muscle properly its probably guaranteed abcess. So I'm leaning for towards spraying the liquid up the there rather than mess with the dangers of IM (Especially tar)

But just curious what a better (in terms of highness) route? Locally they say IM hands down, yet I'm pretty sure everyone here on BL disagrees with that.
 
hey everyone... just dropping in to tell u about my little party..

ok so i started off with 120mg methadone+(5) 350mg soma...whoa man, that had me in deep deep nods.. had me nodding from 7am till noon.. after i came out of that nod i dropped 120mg oxy.. keep in mind i was still noddy off the methadone and somas... so i ended up having a little overdose from the 120mg oxy.. i was way too high ;) i was nodding uncontrollably, eyes rolling back in my head, coming in and out of consciesness.. so i was flying high for a couple hours on the oxy, and i eventually threw up a bunch of shit, and a half disolved percocet!! lol.. i wasnt worried about it since i had actually taken too much.. usual signs of opiate OD, pale skin, cold skin, sweating, deep sleep/nods, and last but not least vomitting. also this whole time i am trying to hit up dealer, worryin that i will miss call since i am noddin so hard.. but she calls right after i start to come out of the haze and i start to get some consciesness back..i load a phat ass bowl of sour diesel and smoke and im on my way to the dope..i finally get a gram and im still fucked up from methadone+soma+oxy+sour diesel+spice from earlier... n i dont have a needle.. so i have to smoke...i drifted a few trails and next thing i know its 5 hours later and ive been nodding out the whole time..

so right now i have a .5 i am saving for when i start to get sick, instead of taking methadone, so i can get full effects of dope..so thats the plan for tomorrow.. get sick.. then get high as fuck..
 
epiks said:
I've tried just about every trick in the book..I literally cannot find a vein anymore. I have a few spider ones that I can hit VERY slowly under a strong light, but still end up with only about 50%..the other 50% misses, and my one spider vein (only can find 2 that i can "half hit") is on my thumb and it blows up like a balloon.

So to avoid abscesses I'm going to take a break from IV. Every single person I know that is in my situation (locally anyways) switches to IM. Either in their ass or thigh or bicep muscle.

My question is, what is is a better high. IM or breaking off the needle and shooting it up the arse? Keep in my mind I get tar around here, so if I don;t get in the muscle properly its probably guaranteed abcess. So I'm leaning for towards spraying the liquid up the there rather than mess with the dangers of IM (Especially tar)

But just curious what a better (in terms of highness) route? Locally they say IM hands down, yet I'm pretty sure everyone here on BL disagrees with that.
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Isn't IMing H even more dangerous? Can you take a break from needles? It sounds like your veins need a break, especially if you've been having a lot of partial-misses.
 
Welderman said:
Kayla I know when I have taken too much oxy or heroin I throw up and am very sweaty but it was never Iv'd or mixed with any other drug. Better safe than sorry. Also never locked myself into a room and binged like that opiates make me want to do stuff. I have holed up in the house with a big pile of coke though but never had the reaction you are describing.

Good luck with that.
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ive only puked like hours afte ri used and nodded a little bit..and its like a big headache always comes with it..doesnt happen ofter but everynow and then



The Rock Monster said:
hey everyone... just dropping in to tell u about my little party..

ok so i started off with 120mg methadone+(5) 350mg soma...whoa man, that had me in deep deep nods.. had me nodding from 7am till noon.. after i came out of that nod i dropped 120mg oxy.. keep in mind i was still noddy off the methadone and somas... so i ended up having a little overdose from the 120mg oxy.. i was way too high ;) i was nodding uncontrollably, eyes rolling back in my head, coming in and out of consciesness.. so i was flying high for a couple hours on the oxy, and i eventually threw up a bunch of shit, and a half disolved percocet!! lol.. i wasnt worried about it since i had actually taken too much.. usual signs of opiate OD, pale skin, cold skin, sweating, deep sleep/nods, and last but not least vomitting. also this whole time i am trying to hit up dealer, worryin that i will miss call since i am noddin so hard.. but she calls right after i start to come out of the haze and i start to get some consciesness back..i load a phat ass bowl of sour diesel and smoke and im on my way to the dope..i finally get a gram and im still fucked up from methadone+soma+oxy+sour diesel+spice from earlier... n i dont have a needle.. so i have to smoke...i drifted a few trails and next thing i know its 5 hours later and ive been nodding out the whole time..

so right now i have a .5 i am saving for when i start to get sick, instead of taking methadone, so i can get full effects of dope..so thats the plan for tomorrow.. get sick.. then get high as fuck..
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my man rocky lol..

need to get me that tar..curiosity is a motherfucker
 
KAYLA2010 said:
Thank you, I think he mixed it wih an upper. He was addicted to crack and methfor years every time he's not in prison.... So may be too much coke or crack with the h you this?
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cause he has been doing speed for days with heroin and now he is completely paranoid and my friend came and she saw him and said he needs to drink fruids and he took a cool shower and is fine now....
 
Carl Landrover said:
Isn't IMing H even more dangerous? Can you take a break from needles? It sounds like your veins need a break, especially if you've been having a lot of partial-misses.
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IM is the most dangerous out of all. Thats what I was saying.

I'm just asking simply if IM or up the butt is a better high? I already know IM is 100x worse for you, I'm just curious as far as "highness".. In the light of HR I am planning to booty shoot it...my friends refuse to booty shoot it and claim IM you get like 10x higher. So I just wanted to to able to tell them (IF THEY ARE) that they're wrong and up the butt gets you higher. Make senes?
 
Tommyboy said:
Yea I think you are wrong. Maybe he was on methadone for 2-3 days if he want to detox, but he definitely wasn't on methadone maintenance.



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i never said he was on maintenance but from simple google searches i have found a few listings of celebrities who have taken methadone and bretts name is on the list

who knows how long he took it but i was trying to imply he was on maintenance

tho if he was i wouldnt be surprised, you dont start that many games in a row and take that kind of a beating without opiates

hell im surprised it hasnt come out that cal ripken jr wasnt an opiate addict (partially kidding of course)
 
Kayla, what ended up happening? I hope everything is OK. You know that you're a saint for taking care of him but, don't let him walk all over you. You may be able to have him sectioned which in this state is when a loved one has the state basically arrest someone and force them into rehab. I'm not sure what that would mean if he is on parole but, I want you to be aware of your options. I know he's your dad and you're trying hard but, sometimes what's best isn't the easiest thing to do. In fact it rarely is and you're young and should be worrying about your own future too
 
Hey Jones, thank you for asking <3 :)

Well he finally stopped throwing up after a shower (cold shower ,high body temp).

After that he drank half a cup of coffee and then still was very incoherent and was threatening me and saying very odd things and h well anyways he was just very incoherent.

He finally used the bathroom (urinated) and he snacked on some food again this time didn't throw up and he started getting some color back then he fell asleep and didn't move from the time I posted about the emt and shower and woke up around noon today. And when he woke he was still very slow and breathing funny but was slowly. It surely returning to normal little family kid was askin what's wrong, it was sad. I don't believe people shild get fucked up around their children.


It's been all day and I have even watching him like a hawk and he's eating again, has full color, and functions very well now except some delusions and agitation. He is now telling me he's sorry for wanting me to drop him off somewhere after driving all the way to get him 2 something hours away and he is also saying he doesn't vet want to get high again lol ya buddy I wouldn't want to get high again the day after a liver attack (speculation, because of green, yellow skin and a pale face with lots o nasty bile)

I just pray my dad straightens up and stays out he's been in prison a total of 27 years over the years and he need to settle down and just live fr a while and I want to get to know him...

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As for me I relapsed and feel shitty.

I now have in my possession-

Xanax 1mg. Xr (30)
Xanax.25 IR (60)
Vyvanse 70mg (60)
Adderall 20mg. (60)
Somas 350mg (7)
Temazepam 15mg (60)
OxyContin 40mg (8)

I was good didn't over do my relapse I took 2 somas, one oxy and one .25 oxy.

And my hubby is going back to Detroit and I can't go with him and he will be there three months, thank god I can't go because it's heroin galore there and I would be strung out for months and that just is not why I want to be.....
 
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