13th Issue Heroin Discussion v. fuck hope do dope

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I tried heroin for the first time today. I had a tiny bit of tolerance from a about 4 days of high dose tramadol use earlier this week, but nothing huge. I had a stamp that was for NYC. It was a fine brown powder. The stamp had a little tear in it that I did not realize and my friend failed to tell me about, so I lost alot of powder. I was fucking pissed. Anyways. Tried a pretty small line and it felt alright. Nothing incredible. Just that familiar opiate buzz. I then smoked weeed for the first time in 6 months so it probably covvered up the buzz a good. I wish I had done more, but I beleive I got the basis over it. Defiantly thing meth is more addictive to me. Thank god it takes a TON of effort to get heroin for me. Dont plan on doing for a good while.
 
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^ I don't get what you mean about it having a cut that your friend didn't tell you about, and it led to you losing a lot of powder. All dope is cut, so nobody is going to mention that the dope is cut, and I have no idea how that would lead to you losing some of it.
 
^ I don't get what you mean about it having a cut that your friend didn't tell you about, and it led to you losing a lot of powder. All dope is cut, so nobody is going to mention that the dope is cut, and I have no idea how that would lead to you losing some of it.
Lol No he meant there was a cut in the bag. And he lost some powder. This happened to me once fucking sucked
 
Just smile and be like Derp :) lol

Hey OP- you did better than me I didn't really like h when I first did it but I wanted to experience to I kept doing more until I fell in love, really stupid but you experience then it's over. Glad you can't get more :)
 
haha my bad about confusion. Ill edit my post. I was suprised by my..... lack of love for it.. I have had a thing for opiates in the past. Guess i just didnt get the full effect from the amount i had. Good thing though. Like i said i got the basis of it! Only wish i didnt like meth as much as i did.
 
if you can get high on tramadol, why even bother trying dope? you should be slapped man and put in your place for that shit, same thiung with peole who can still catch a buzz off a few viks or norcos
 
if you can get high on tramadol, why even bother trying dope? you should be slapped man and put in your place for that shit, same thiung with peole who can still catch a buzz off a few viks or norcos

yo man everyone is different i wouldn't know what a norco or vikodin was if they wear hitting me upside the face back when i first tried heroin.. i think mybe a couple times i had done an oc but thats about it. thing is no mater how hard you try to tell someone they shouldn't try the shit .. if they want to do it they will! i agree if you are catching a buzz off pills then mybe it would be best to just stick with them.. nowadays too tho H is easier and a whole lot cheaper then pills aswell..
 
has anyone ever heard of or know anyone that has got put on methadone for a damn Vicodin addiction??? This seems to me like a classic over treatment by some fcked up doc.
 
Whats so bad about trying dope once if I have no access to it and was just curious about it? I mean i understand for alot of people, and maybe even alot of you, it starts like that and never ends that way. I felt prepared to do it and face any cravings i would have. And still do. Thanks for you concern Chinky.
 
I felt prepared to do it and face any cravings i would have. And still do.

Oh really? I guess the rest of us just decided to get addicted.

The truth is, nobody plans on getting addicted. It's best to stay away from heroin because if your tolerance is low a fire batch can kill you a lot easier. I think that's what chinky was getting into. Also, since heroin is pretty much an unlimited supply in terms of personal amounts, it's easier to get hooked on it since you can always get it. With pills there's usually some limit on availability, and price usually limits the amount you use as well. Heroin is so cheep though that it's easy to justify buying, and affordable as long as you don't go too overboard.
 
Yeah I get that. And I appreciate the concern. Ill admit. Ever since I first started using opiates, i always had a curiosity for it. And i didnt mean my comment as a dig at anyone whose gotten addicted, and hope it wasnt taken that way.
 
Yeah I get that. And I appreciate the concern. Ill admit. Ever since I first started using opiates, i always had a curiosity for it. And i didnt mean my comment as a dig at anyone whose gotten addicted, and hope it wasnt taken that way.

Well I did what you did last month and went into a full on iv heroin binge for a month, then I came home where I knew would be close to impossible to get and am still suffering through cravings. That drug literally pulls at you until you cave. I only planned on trying it and trie convincing myself I didn't even like it, but it got me. It's been a few weeks since I had any and I still crave but can not get any so I'm slowly getting over it :)

I'm going to tell you now, you experienced it that's it. It's doesn't get better only worse.

My point was I expected to just try it because I knew people who had done it, but it never works like that no one plans to become addicted...Once I tried it, it sucked me in, I didn't care about all the addiction stories or consequences.

You never just "try" heroin.
 
Ya skibler, chinky is just a dick but, we just don't want you to go down the same path or hurt yourself. Like Tommy said, no one decides to be a junky. Trying it turns into a couple times a month then on the weekends then you start using during the week and before you know it you're hooked. Your friends that try it get hooked too and the next thing you know that's what your life revolves around. You probably think that this will never happen but, the only way to not become an addict is to not use in the first place.

This isn't a lecture we're just being real.
 
Whats so bad about trying dope once if I have no access to it and was just curious about it? I mean i understand for alot of people, and maybe even alot of you, it starts like that and never ends that way. I felt prepared to do it and face any cravings i would have. And still do. Thanks for you concern Chinky.


Just like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giGkt5oAhT0 who remembers this? I used to laugh at it!
 
I tried heroin for the first time today. I had a tiny bit of tolerance from a about 4 days of high dose tramadol use earlier this week, but nothing huge. I had a stamp that was for NYC. It was a fine brown powder. The stamp had a little tear in it that I did not realize and my friend failed to tell me about, so I lost alot of powder. I was fucking pissed. Anyways. Tried a pretty small line and it felt alright. Nothing incredible. Just that familiar opiate buzz. I then smoked weeed for the first time in 6 months so it probably covvered up the buzz a good. I wish I had done more, but I beleive I got the basis over it. Defiantly thing meth is more addictive to me. Thank god it takes a TON of effort to get heroin for me. Dont plan on doing for a good while.

you find meth easily in NYC? thats odd i never have came across it or even heard of someone I know using/finding it.

itd probably be bad if i ever got a connect cause i love iv coke..


has anyone ever heard of or know anyone that has got put on methadone for a damn Vicodin addiction??? This seems to me like a classic over treatment by some fcked up doc.

Man I would feel bad for someone ignorant enough to go on methadone for vicodin addiction. They just set themself up for a lifetime of hurt. The approving doctors should be fired for doing shit like that. I find it hard to beleive clinics would even do that. When I first got on methadone I was almost turned away for having no track marks, but when they realized I was up to nearly a brick a day sniffed it was a different story. The guy couldnt beleive it, he was like "...on average people do 6 bags a day, how do you afford it!?" I am like uh I have a good job and bags are fucking less than a six pack of domestic beer.

I actually started shooting ocne I was on methadone for a few months.. They put me up to 80mg *(which was UTTER HELL) for the first few days starting at only 30mg. It did not TOUCH my habit. By 1 year into my methadone treatment I was shooting full bundle shots. Now a few years later I shoot single bags at a time (north jersy bags too not even NYC sized) and get just as high as I would doing bundle shots.

Tolerance is a bitch.

What goes through someones mind who is addicted to vicoden when they decide to get on a clinic, they must think "cool i can legally get high now" fast forward to a few yars later and they are like "...suicide time?"
 
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I finally told some one in my family about my dope habit. Were not blood related but we live in the same house.

Hes on the methadone program and if i end up telling my parents about it and maybe they would like the idea of me getting clean but on methadone, i would have a ride to the program everyday. I dont feel ready to get clean, i only went to him cause i missed real bad and ky arm swolled up real bad and that never happened to me before that bad. I had to of only missed becUse i had a really good rush but still it looked bad.

When school starts i feel like i wont be using that much anyways cause ill be chillin with everyone again who either just smoke weed, drink and pip molly or eat shrooms, i.wont be needing to chill with all my friends who do dope and 30s.
 
the times i tried tramadol i never felt anyting from it

and with what i said...its just ive seen so many people come threw this website with a minimal habit and with in no time they are dope fiends...its just sad considering we are supposed to bne here for harm reduction..i know we dont intend to glorify dope but we do and when someone comes around like skibler who needs only a few norcos or whatever and they see that we talk about how great dope is, it plants thatr seed. hell maybe the seed was aready there and we are adding the water to help grow but whatever. id ratherbe the dick that talks shit to these people then the one to say "yeah man ttry it"


today i took some subs cause i got to drop on weds..shit sucks i ordered the spice too late for it to come today so i have to wait til monday..i damn near drove myself crazy today seraching craigslist and everything else that might offer "herbal incense"..iim not really craving dope but i need something to help pass the time, im just super bored and need something to relax
 
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