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Is cannabis really the only one?

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Something occurred to me this evening, as I packed myself a bowl.

As far as I am aware, cannabis is pretty much the only worthwhile intoxicant that can be safely used almost at any time, or at any frequency. Of course, overdoing weed is not impossible, but most people don't have the desire to use the drug so heavily.

It seems that all other mind-altering drugs either are too addictive or physically toxic to use without restraint, or develop steep tolerance which prevents frequent use, or are too intense and draining to use regularly, etc.. Then there are a multitude of lesser known herbs which could be used frequently, but provide a weak and uninteresting high.

Am I missing something? Is cannabis truly in a league of its own in this respect?
 
Definitely in a league of its own.

I love psychedelics and would do them all the time if it didn't make functioning in society near impossible when you're really out there.

However weed is always a constant little treat in my life. Something to get me thinking a little different than usual, and to remind myself to relax and not take things so seriously. Plus I thought I loved music before I started smoking weed, now I appreciate it that much more and I never thought that possible.
 
You are indeed correct. There is no suitable replacement for dope, in my existence at least. Everything else on a regular basis is harmful for me - coffee aggravates me and is completely unsuitable, alcohol is death, stimulants/opiates both seem pointless to me, psychedelics are useful but I won't use them more frequently than once a season and pot actually turns me off of those too in a way, at least the abuse of them. Especially with this digital Volcano I recently acquired, the dope just vibes so freaking well with my body now. Vaporization has eliminated the physical anxiety I used to feel from the inhalation of all that filthy bong smoke. The high is as clean as any cap-only mushroom trip now.

All in all, nothing out there except for cannabis can give me the 3rd person perspective, introverted, self inspecting state of consciousness that I crave to be in always. I just feel like I'm smarter in this outside perceivers mindstate, I'm much less emotion driven and more able to think outside the box. I make better choices. I do everything baked. I hit the gym hard, go to work, I used to write exams after bongs, I read incessantly... I don't feel like it takes much away from me and in fact I'm probably more active when I have some pot.

It is weed itself that made me come to this realization you speak of. Before I ever smoked weed, I would eat fast food, drink energy drinks, and get drunk all the time. After I tried mushrooms and began to smoke even more pot, everything changed and I began to be disgusted by these things. My physical reaction to these things even changed because I had become so much more acutely self aware of the subtle energies in my body, and I can no longer handle them. I began to feel brainwashed, and really turned off by the structure of society we have going on. I realized that so many things can be changed for the better, and these problems are created by our own egotistical doing seen on a scale of global consciousness. Thus began a path of self betterment, because although one man does not have much power to excape the inextricable grasp of this black shadow government and bankers, the fact that those bad things exist are a reflection of his own ego. Besides, if he can learn to transcend his ego, then they ain't got nothin' on him no more; he is liberated.

For so many reasons, because it definitely has a place in my life, because I need that meditative introspection and incredible relaxation, weed has also proven to be far more addictive and habit forming than anything else I have used. I go batshit crazy after I haven't smoked it for a couple weeks, and if I smoke it all day for too long I also go into another dimension of crazy. I agree that it can be safely used at any frequency, but I also know from experience that intense overuse leads to a great many side effects, and also horrible physical withdrawal symptoms. If you're smoking something like an ounce a week and let that go on a long while, then prepare to deal with some fairly bad bullshit. My current goals are to not smoke pot at all for at least 2 days of the week to avoid addiction, ideally 4, and only smoke in the evenings the other nights to avoid tolerance.
 
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^ Someones getting a bit deep!

I Smoke weed most every night, it probably isn't for the best but eh, somethin to look forward to after work.
 
As far as I am aware, cannabis is pretty much the only worthwhile intoxicant that can be safely used almost at any time, or at any frequency. Of course, overdoing weed is not impossible, but most people don't have the desire to use the drug so heavily.

This is pretty much how I view it. Cannabis is really the only drug I like to take anytime of the day, any day of the week unless I work that day. Then I don't smoke all day until I get off, finish everything that needs to be done, then just smoke until I pass out.

Everything else drug wise usually waits until the sun goes down.
 
Good question OP, the answer to your question is yes and possibly no. Yes, it is the only such drug that we know of but who knows what lurks undiscovered in the amazonian rainforest. What makes it such an amazing drug though is not the fact that it's so suited to recreational use, but that it can treat so many medical conditions so well and that it's so safe at the same time.
 
I think perhaps you're idealizing cannabis here. There are other drugs people can be on 24/7 for an extended period of time, like benzos.
 
I can over do it I hate weed if I smoke I'm paranoid, irrational. I get nausea followed by vomiting and a headache and severe anxiety with panic attacks.

For me weed is evil yuck

I have smoked weed do many different time hoping for better results from different strands and still same result no more experiments for me...
 
IMO a league of it's own yes, but every drug/class of drug occupies its own little niche.

But I don't really think it's fair to say you can use it as frequently as you like, for any drug, people have different limits but you can definitely overdo anything. But yeah, it's awesome that you can't overdose on it, the risks are generally low and it's not addictive. But I also think, to an extent, it's the user not the drug - if you're really, really careful and educated, you can generally use most drugs safely.
 
This may sound weird and a bit far fetched but, I find K to be just as flexible as weed if not more because you don't have to worry about smell or time to smoke. It's just a bump than you are K rocked for the perfect amount of time. But K is dangerous but if you are young and dumb like me K is the way to change it up becarful tho lol. Or xanax but that addiction is stupid nvm.
 
You are indeed correct. There is no suitable replacement for dope, in my existence at least. Everything else on a regular basis is harmful for me - coffee aggravates me and is completely unsuitable, alcohol is death, stimulants/opiates both seem pointless to me, psychedelics are useful but I won't use them more frequently than once a season and pot actually turns me off of those too in a way, at least the abuse of them. Especially with this digital Volcano I recently acquired, the dope just vibes so freaking well with my body now. Vaporization has eliminated the physical anxiety I used to feel from the inhalation of all that filthy bong smoke. The high is as clean as any cap-only mushroom trip now.

All in all, nothing out there except for cannabis can give me the 3rd person perspective, introverted, self inspecting state of consciousness that I crave to be in always. I just feel like I'm smarter in this outside perceivers mindstate, I'm much less emotion driven and more able to think outside the box. I make better choices. I do everything baked. I hit the gym hard, go to work, I used to write exams after bongs, I read incessantly... I don't feel like it takes much away from me and in fact I'm probably more active when I have some pot.

It is weed itself that made me come to this realization you speak of. Before I ever smoked weed, I would eat fast food, drink energy drinks, and get drunk all the time. After I tried mushrooms and began to smoke even more pot, everything changed and I began to be disgusted by these things. My physical reaction to these things even changed because I had become so much more acutely self aware of the subtle energies in my body, and I can no longer handle them. I began to feel brainwashed, and really turned off by the structure of society we have going on. I realized that so many things can be changed for the better, and these problems are created by our own egotistical doing seen on a scale of global consciousness. Thus began a path of self betterment, because although one man does not have much power to excape the inextricable grasp of this black shadow government and bankers, the fact that those bad things exist are a reflection of his own ego. Besides, if he can learn to transcend his ego, then they ain't got nothin' on him no more; he is liberated.

For so many reasons, because it definitely has a place in my life, because I need that meditative introspection and incredible relaxation, weed has also proven to be far more addictive and habit forming than anything else I have used. I go batshit crazy after I haven't smoked it for a couple weeks, and if I smoke it all day for too long I also go into another dimension of crazy. I agree that it can be safely used at any frequency, but I also know from experience that intense overuse leads to a great many side effects, and also horrible physical withdrawal symptoms. If you're smoking something like an ounce a week and let that go on a long while, then prepare to deal with some fairly bad bullshit. My current goals are to not smoke pot at all for at least 2 days of the week to avoid addiction, ideally 4, and only smoke in the evenings the other nights to avoid tolerance.

Solid post man, I agree with you completely.
 
sadly...however there are other organic plant materials which produce mind altering effects and are generally up to this point considered harmless. but none that give the exact feelings that weed does. example: salvia or jwh.
 
caffeine, nicotine (especially if you dont smoke it its the smoke that causes cancer, not nicotine) opiates can all be used daily your whole life without much harm.
 
caffeine, nicotine (especially if you dont smoke it its the smoke that causes cancer, not nicotine) opiates can all be used daily your whole life without much harm.

Dip and Chew are both really bad and cause cancer of the mouth and throat. Swallow some dip lemme know how that feels.

But yea pot is basically in a league of it's own, though opiates have barely any deadly side effects for people who aren't doing heroin or oxy's. Believe it or not, opium and opiates are great great remedies and besides overdose for people who (like myself) can't control their addiction, and there is no known side effects if taken pure (and not street quality)
 
Agreed, a league of its own.

I smoke small amounts throughout the entire day, almost everyday and function fine in my day to day life. I bring my dugout and bat with me pretty much everywhere I go
 
Alcohol, nitrous oxide, l-theanine, kava kava root, kratom, good food, sex, meditation, gambling. YMMV.

Alcohol is a horribly damaging drug to the human body.

Prolonged use of nitrous oxide has the ability to produce horrific problems in a human being.

caffeine, nicotine (especially if you dont smoke it its the smoke that causes cancer, not nicotine) opiates can all be used daily your whole life without much harm.

Nicotine is harmful to the production of hormones in men and women.
 
pretty sure there has just been a reasonable sized study completed in Australia indicating that consistent and prolonged use, and starting from an early age (teens, pre full maturation) does cause mental problems. it had something to do white the white matter of the brain. causing cognitive issues and learning issues.

in saying that mary jane will always be my baby. too much of pretty much anything is bad huh. you go drinking too much h20 your gonna die!
 
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