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The Big & Dandy Methoxyketamine Thread

adrandell116 said:
There is no violation in asking about a chemical that is being sold! The rule states not sourcing, not no asking about drugs. This is the whole point of the forum!
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If the vendor of the chemical is mentioned, how would that not be the exact definition of "sourcing."
 
adrandell116 said:
There is no violation in asking about a chemical that is being sold! The rule states not sourcing, not no asking about drugs. This is the whole point of the forum!
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I was grabbing a whole bunch of things at once, your question was legit, I will reapprove it, sorry. The edited one that you quoted however is another matter.

Oh, and avoid purchasing from people who don't tell what drugs they're selling, and just give you some brand name or something marketable to try to cash in the market for another drug. These practices are very anti-HR.
 
Laika said:
If the vendor of the chemical is mentioned, how would that not be the exact definition of "sourcing."
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Yeah my bad, I thought it was a post from AMT tma and not an edit by a mod! I thought it was a greenlighter pointing out a violation that hadn't taken place! Woops :/
 
While I understand the point about vendors coming up with daft names for new compounds, I think it's more of a plan to differentiate themselves from other sellers rather than an evil money-making marketing ploy.

…and besides, people have been using the 'brand' name Ecstasy to mean MDMA for yeeeeears without much complaint! :)
 
7zark7 said:
While I understand the point about vendors coming up with daft names for new compounds, I think it's more of a plan to differentiate themselves from other sellers rather than an evil money-making marketing ploy.

…and besides, people have been using the 'brand' name Ecstasy to mean MDMA for yeeeeears without much complaint! :)
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I agree with 7zark7 about branding. There are some vendors which use these names without telling people whats inside the "proprietary blend", but from what i have seen from the branded vendor of 2-meo-ket is that it is so customers simply remember the name and also so that people trust that particular brand as being pure 2-meo-ket, in this regard i think it's okay, still a stupid name in my opinion though!

I read the information on the vendors site and it explains why they branded the chemical.
 
^The vendors who brand-name their chemicals are typically the ones who are known for heavily cutting their products or just plain misrepresenting them as something else entirely. I will never buy from a vendor who uses such brand-names and flashy graphics to try and sell their products.

Brand-names dumb us down, and they are for people who can't be bothered to do their research to find out about a particular compound or class of compounds. If you're a vendor who thinks they need to draw pictures of dinosaurs and give your product a gimmicky name in order to sell it, then you're probably not very serious about the chemistry and pharmacology of such compounds.
 
Survived Abortion said:
^The vendors who brand-name their chemicals are typically the ones who are known for heavily cutting their products or just plain misrepresenting them as something else entirely. I will never buy from a vendor who uses such brand-names and flashy graphics to try and sell their products.

Brand-names dumb us down, and they are for people who can't be bothered to do their research to find out about a particular compound or class of compounds. If you're a vendor who thinks they need to draw pictures of dinosaurs and give your product a gimmicky name in order to sell it, then you're probably not very serious about the chemistry and pharmacology of such compounds.
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I agree to a certain extent that branding is not for the scientifically minded when it comes to research chemicals, but the truth about RC's is that most (80%) customers dont care about the in-depth pharmacology but rather a cheap substitute to their illegal drug of choice! This also is apparent when looking at the RC in headshops, as headshops often sell more of the branded ones because people know what the chemical does i.e ethylphenidate means nothing to your average Joe, but RUSH or CHARGE or whatever, is quite clear. Although, by this argument there is no need to brand 2-MeO-Ketamine because the drug is in the chemical name!

I will never buy from a brand with unknown chems inside, but i will try out a brand to see what happens. Especially since our extinction brand knew about this chemical very very early judging by their website stats i pulled up.

only time will tell!
 
I've got nothing personally against the people behind any particular vendors (other than scammers and those known to have sold blatantly bunk products), and I'm not trying to ruin anyone's business, but I will always avoid those who use such marketing ploys to sell their stuff. I want to see that the vendor cares about their customers, cares about the quality of the products they sell, and cares about their integrity as a reputable and upstanding vendor, rather than doing whatever they can to make a quick buck. I feel this is very important in the unregulated market of RCs, where grave mistakes can slip through the net if consumers aren't paying attention.

I was never fond of the term "Ecstasy" for MDMA, and I am definitely not fond of RUSH or CHARGE for ethylphenidate. It just cheapens the whole thing for me, and it shows that the people you are purchasing from care way more about quickly making big money from gullible fools than standards of quality control.

I can tell you that 2-MeO-Ket will be available from vendors who are not using such marketing techniques.
 
We have been hyped, stalled and cockteased so much about this drug, and pommeled with childlike trade names that I'm not even sure I want to try this drug anymore. Sure I'll pick up some grams but ACK! Just STFU and then one day completely unexpected flood the market with an awesome product, with this stalling tactic theres a risk the drug is scheduled before it even hits the outlets.
 
blueberries said:
ethyl ketamine is out too if anyones interested, 3x the potency of normal ket
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Shill much? retard.

The only one who claims to have it is a chinese scammer. And were does the "3x the potency of normal ket"come from? Pulled that out of your ass did you?
 
if N-ethylnorketamine was mentioned, then it's also not 3 times as strong as straight ketamine. But I guess everyone can get to that conclusion...
 
well, obviously the wheels of the RC market are turning... I have tried samples of both 2-MeO-Ketamine and N-ethyl-Ketamine provided by a reputable source (i.e. not the chinese scammer). both gave me ketamine-like effects, but while 2-MeO-Ketamine was much less effective than ketamine (only threshold effects at 150 mg nasally), N-ethyl-Ketamine was more potent than regular racemic ketamine. not 3x potent as ketamine, but more potent, maybe similar in potency to S-ketamine (x1.5). as a dissociatives-connosseur, I hope that both compounds will appear on the grey market soon (from what I hear from the source my hopes won't be in vain), but N-ethyl-Ketamine seems to me the more promising ketamine replacement. time to open a new b&d thread, I guess...
 
I think this is what's going around in my area (and lots of surrounding areas) but it's being sold as K.
Can anyone who has bought methoxyketamine / 2-MeO-Ketamine describe the smell? And color?

Some of the 'ketamine' has been slightly yellow/beige, and smells a bit like mephedrone, but not exactly mephedrone, but a strong smell that I really can't put my finger on. A tiny bit like bleach maybe.

Any information you guys can give would be helpful, thanks. As I'm suspicious that all the strange smelling ketamine being sold in the area isn't actually ketamine at all. Cheers.
 
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I suspect that with all the R&D thats gone into this over the last few months the price will be considerably higher than normal K (at this stage anyway) so its doubtful this will be sold as street ketamine any time soon. No doubt things may change.

Possibly this stuff you found has gone through a different synth route and has its own impurities leading to the colour and smell.
 
ungelesene_bettlek said:
well, obviously the wheels of the RC market are turning... I have tried samples of both 2-MeO-Ketamine and N-ethyl-Ketamine provided by a reputable source (i.e. not the chinese scammer). both gave me ketamine-like effects, but while 2-MeO-Ketamine was much less effective than ketamine (only threshold effects at 150 mg nasally), N-ethyl-Ketamine was more potent than regular racemic ketamine. not 3x potent as ketamine, but more potent, maybe similar in potency to S-ketamine (x1.5). as a dissociatives-connosseur, I hope that both compounds will appear on the grey market soon (from what I hear from the source my hopes won't be in vain), but N-ethyl-Ketamine seems to me the more promising ketamine replacement. time to open a new b&d thread, I guess...
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How much N-ethyl-Ketamine have you used? Even with 90+mgs plugged i only got light effects, nothing to fly away or even hole with. Don't even wanna think about what 90+mgs of MXE would've done, so i dunno if these Ketamine-derivates are really worth the money (and from what i've heard they're damn expensive).
 
atomiku said:
Guys, I think this is what's going around in my area (and lots of surrounding areas) but it's being sold as K.
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How are you possibly arriving at this conclusion? The material hasn't even made it's way to the niche online RC market yet, let alone had enough time to percolate down to those who would sell it on the streets.

It's highly possible that what you have is impure or cut. Finding out what it is cut with is the task.
 
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