First time 6-APB , what do I need to know ?

[BottleDryer]

I decided to do 6-APB for the first time in my life and I'm kind of nervous, mainly because I've read so many mixed reviews about it.

I don't have much experience with MDMA "like" substances, but I do have quite a bit of experience with stimulants like coke, amphetamine and methylphenidate.

The last time I did anything that was close to a "trippy" stimulant was 5 years ago when I tried a BZP/TFMPP combo. That didn't turn out so good (lots of side effects).

So for precautions sake, would these substances work incase I needed them ?;

For nausea= Ginger or Gravol (Dimenhydrinate) or Promethezine

For headache= Motrin (Ibuprofen)

For the "come down" = Benzo(s)


Would any of these above substances negatively interact with 6-APB in any way ?

ALSO, should I take 6-APB on a full , semi-full or empty stomach ?

Lastly, is 50mg a good first time dose ?

The 6-APB I have is in a pressed blue pill form but they weigh out to be .30grams each (300mg).... that's way too much from what i've read. Why would they be in pressed into such a high individual dosage ??

 

[Zazen]

The drugs you mentioned should work fine in combination, although I'd go with ginger over gravol or promethezine as 6-apb has little nausea anyway, and first generation anti-histamines will tend to add some level of drowsiness which is not really what you want when taking a stimulant.

I'd personally take it on an empty stomach so it hits harder/faster than it will with food in your stomach (I leave it 6 hours after eating). Some prefer a light snack an hour or two before to help with any nausea but I don't really find this an issue with 6-apb.

50mg seems like a low dose, would have thought you'd struggle to get effects at that level. If you're looking for a low dose something around 75-80mg would probably be better but obviously it's your choice, read some trip reports on here + erowid.com to get an idea what dosage you think you'll feel most comfortable with.

And pills are not made entirely of the drug that's in them. You're 300mg pill will probably be about 100mg 6-apb and 200mg of binders (to hold the pill together), dyes etc.
You need to find out how much 6-apb is in each one, otherwise you'll have no idea how much you're taking. Also depending on the quality of the pills the amount in them could vary widely. If you've got mg scales I'd definitely recommend buying the powder in future.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I tried it for the first time the night before last. The come up takes hours man, so definately dont prolong it any more by eating beforehand. I didnt find the stuff very stimmy or trippy, didnt get any headache or nausea, just felt a bit strange and fucked really (not in a very nice way tbh) then i started getting intrusive uncomfortable thoughts after about 2 hrs. Boshed 1.5 etiz, which got my mind in a much better place, i didnt reach the peak until 4.5 hours, and it only lasted 30 mins for me. BTW I took a 100 mg bomb.

 

[done juan]

what zazen said in regards to weight.

expect some kind of nausea. 110 mg was fine for me. presuming youve allergy tested i would go for 100mg, i think you would be underwhelmed at 50mg, plus i assume you are gonna chop the pill so the weight thing is important as you wont be getting x amount of active ingredient according to what you weigh out

 

[junglebook]

Yeah the dosage is the most important thing. I personally like to take it 75mg doeses and keep dosing til i think ive had enough. Recommended safe dose is 100-125mg. Never had any bad experiences on this stuff the way up was clean as hell the way down was just as clean. Check your source, research them hard.

 

[Albion]

Od -> pd

 

[phatass]

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[Br1tannia]

i would advise 75mg oraly on after having eaten something light, for first trip.

hope u enjoy urs

if you want a more psychadélic experiience, 200mg will gibve you pleasant xtc like visuals from 200mg

This.

 

[fruitsmoothie]

I tried it for the first time the night before last. The come up takes hours man, so definately dont prolong it any more by eating beforehand. I didnt find the stuff very stimmy or trippy, didnt get any headache or nausea, just felt a bit strange and fucked really (not in a very nice way tbh) then i started getting intrusive uncomfortable thoughts after about 2 hrs. Boshed 1.5 etiz, which got my mind in a much better place, i didnt reach the peak until 4.5 hours, and it only lasted 30 mins for me. BTW I took a 100 mg bomb.

sure you got the real thing? 'intrusive uncomfortable thoughts' doesn't sound like 6-apb to me at all.

i would advise 75mg oraly on after having eaten something light, for first trip.

if you want a more psychadélic experiience, 200mg will gibve you pleasant xtc like visuals from 200mg

umm, like OP i never done extacy before and i can't imagine starting with 200mg. imo 75-100 is a good starting dose, 50mg might feel a bit underwhelming.

 

[shadybeep]

I can't imagine doing 200mg in one go. 100mg of the stronger batch of 6-apb I had had me TOTALLY over stimulated and uncomfortable for maybe an hour. I could certainly see it working better if you waited till you'd come up from the first lot, and then did some more. Or if you were in a club environment it might just be nice to be that wasted.

As phatass said, 75mg is a good first dose. Although, for harm reduction, you should really start with allergy test then low threshold dose first in my opinion.

 

[shadybeep]

Note also! you cannot possibly tell how your pills were mixed or pressed, so if you're going to dose based on an alleged 100mg in the pill, crush the entire thing and split it, don't just cut it in half or whatever. This might be obvious to you! But I have known many people wonder why someone did a half and was astounded, while the other person got nothing...

 

[Jesusgreen]

I tried it for the first time the night before last. The come up takes hours man, so definately dont prolong it any more by eating beforehand. I didnt find the stuff very stimmy or trippy, didnt get any headache or nausea, just felt a bit strange and fucked really (not in a very nice way tbh) then i started getting intrusive uncomfortable thoughts after about 2 hrs. Boshed 1.5 etiz, which got my mind in a much better place, i didnt reach the peak until 4.5 hours, and it only lasted 30 mins for me. BTW I took a 100 mg bomb.

Doesn't sound at all like 6-APB to me. 6-APB takes 1-3 hours to come up and the peak alone lasts for the next 2-4+ hours, with the whole experience lasting around 8-11 hours depending on dosage, it feels very euphoric, a little less empathic than MDMA but more rushy. I've never had any anxiety or uncomfortable thoughts and in fact in combination with drugs that usually cause this type of feeling it was able to abolish it for me.

While we can't speculate on what it is/might be since we can't identify a substance from a description like this alone, I'd highly recommend getting a test kit or sending some off to a lab.

So for precautions sake, would these substances work incase I needed them ?;

For nausea= Ginger or Gravol (Dimenhydrinate) or Promethezine

For headache= Motrin (Ibuprofen)

For the "come down" = Benzo(s)

Yes those substances should work. Personally I've never had any nausea from 6-APB and my only trouble with it is: Jaw grinding (which I treat with Magnesium), Comedown (which can be treated with GABA agonists like alcohol, GHB/GBL, benzos) and Diarrhoea the next day (which can be treated with low dose opiates, but I don't bother since it only tends to happen with higher doses and is manageable)

Would any of these above substances negatively interact with 6-APB in any way ?

I don't think any of them would. Just don't take the benzos too early obviously since they will reduce the effects of the 6-APB.

ALSO, should I take 6-APB on a full , semi-full or empty stomach ?

I always take it on an empty stomach, 3+ hours after my last meal. I do this with almost all substances and I believe this is why I rarely ever get nausea from any substances, even the ones most notorious for it.

Lastly, is 50mg a good first time dose ?

Seems a bit low. I find 150mg a good dose for me. I'd start with around 100mg if you want to start low. Some people have luck with sub-100mg doses but not everyone, and I've never really heard of anyone being overwhelmed by 100mg, so it seems like a better starting place.

If you already use MDMA, you could try taking 1.2-1.5x your MDMA dose. Someone requiring say 80mg of MDMA will likely want anywhere from 100-120mg of 6-APB, and someone requiring 100mg of MDMA will likely want between 120mg and 150mg - variance mostly depending on the purity of the chemicals involved.

The 6-APB I have is in a pressed blue pill form but they weigh out to be .30grams each (300mg).... that's way too much from what i've read. Why would they be in pressed into such a high individual dosage ??

Most of the weight in a pill is binders. I recommend testing the pills to ensure they are indeed 6-APB. It's also worth trying to find out the dosage of each from your vendor/supplier. Most pills containing 6-APB seem to be around 100mg in dosage, with some higher or lower.

Also, we already have a main 6-APB thread, and this one will likely be merged with that one once you've had a chance to reply