Cocaine No effect from cocaine?

[moor12]

saying snorted coke doesn't have a pronounced high,

Because it doesn't, compared to drugs like mephedrone, mdxx or speed. Coke feels clean, happy, euphoric, refreshed, but it won't get you twitching like crazy with your eyes bulging out.

 

[Cornishman]

Okay well you said that after, and obviously the way you worded it made it seem as if you thought insufflated cocaine was giving you one of those placebo like, "not sure if high or placebo" type highs. You clearly responded to a coke newby saying snorted coke doesn't have a pronounced high, don't change your story now saying 'well not as pronounced as Iv or smoking'. That's kind of fucking common sense, that's why people stay away from that shit and stick with insufflated hcl which still can give you an extremely euphoric and pronounced high, and can get you peeking out windows just like rock can lol.

To be fair I didn't wanna mention those ROA's cause it might have a detrimental effect.

Plus if the OP was doing high end product (unlikely but possible) they might not feel the effects too much.

"real" cocaine is considered to be a relaxing stimulant. In fact, many first time users, including myself when I first tried it in the 80's, thought I was the butt end of several people's joke. In other words, I didn't even know I was high because cocaine's high is that subtle and underlying.

- Le Junk (post 128 )
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...aine-anyone-actually-find-a-way-too?p=5133930

 

[moor12]

Exactly, as above. Also worth mentioning that after session on good coke, you can eat, sleep and have practically no comedown.

 

[pbuilder]

Because it doesn't, compared to drugs like mephedrone, mdxx or speed. Coke feels clean, happy, euphoric, refreshed, but it won't get you twitching like crazy with your eyes bulging out.

Okay if you consider a sudden wave of pure euphoria and happiness, massive increase in sociability and music appreciation and a sudden potentially 180 degree turn to a positive outlook on everything a "subtle" high then yea sure, it's subtle. I guess it's subtle in the sense that it won't hit you like a psych trip other anything but I'd say it's a lot more pronounced than say an opiate high, and in my experience definitely more pronounced then when I was using 60+mg's of adderall.

Honestly I have no idea how you can consider it subtle, the second I smell that shit as I'm snorting it I am high. Literally instant euphoria that keeps on going up for several minutes.

Everyone's different though, I suppose looking back at the very first time I did a single line of cocaine that musta been around 40mg's, I didn't realize how good it made me felt until the next day when I was like wow I felt good last night lol. But their is no questioning the high of a fat 150mg line lol.

 

[pzoxic]

Okay if you consider a sudden wave of pure euphoria and happiness, massive increase in sociability and music appreciation and a sudden potentially 180 degree turn to a positive outlook on everything

Now this is the high I was looking for, but just never found

 

[moor12]

The point I'm trying to make is that coke is not about a massive head rush like mdxx or mephedrone, and it's not stimulating and twitchy as speed. Coke is definitely very euphoric, instant hit of that "lift", when colours get brighter, you start to smile and really feel good. Coke is more of an euphoriant than stimulant.

 

[rymerkk]

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Is it really possible to have a natural high tolerance? Never really believed in stuff like that.

i don't have any sources at the moment.. when i'm not on my phone i can edit my post with some, but it is possible. not just cocaine, but any substance. some people can drink alcohol like a fish even though they may only drink a few times a month (a friend of mine is a good example) and as for me: when me and my friends started using opiates we started with hydrocodone (10/325's found in my house) and it would take me around 6, give or take (45-65mgs), to get a good buzz going while my friends were taking around 2 or 3 (again give or take; 20-35mg's) for the same effect. this was with zero tolerance too.

this is just anecdotal, but nonetheless some sort of proof.

 

[Jabberwocky]

are you a big guy? might have an effect on it regarding how much you need to take to feel effects?

 

[pzoxic]

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In no way would I consider myself a big guy lmao. Railed a few lines again today with my buddies and again, there were slight to no effects. Just felt a little calm and numb and the room looked brighter I think

 

[pbuilder]

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In no way would I consider myself a big guy lmao. Railed a few lines again today with my buddies and again, there were slight to no effects. Just felt a little calm and numb and the room looked brighter I think

Could be environment and I hate mentioning this because it is against HR if you do this but getting drunk then doing some lines of coke gives me much MUCH more euphoria than coke sober. Like 10fold to 100x more, I can feel so fucking good with this combo it is magical.

18 days sober from coke.

 

[Cornishman]

Take a seriously tiny amount (like an eighth of a small line) put some cold water into a teaspoon and sprinkle said coke into water/spoon.

Leave it for upto 10 mins max. (give it a lil shake occasionally)
By that time it should be fully dissolved.

If it hasn't dissolved 100% it's some seriously shitty product & certainly not something you should be sniffing.
Take it back and demand a refund before finding another supplier.

If it does dissolve, chances are you might just have some real blow.

Fwiw, you might aswell quit while you're ahead.
Nothing good ever comes from cocaine.....

 

[pbuilder]

Take a seriously tiny amount (like an eighth of a small line) put some cold water into a teaspoon and sprinkle said coke into water/spoon.

Leave it for upto 10 mins max. (give it a lil shake occasionally)
By that time it should be fully dissolved.

If it hasn't dissolved 100% it's some seriously shitty product & certainly not something you should be sniffing.
Take it back and demand a refund before finding another supplier.

If it does dissolve, chances are you might just have some real blow.

Fwiw, you might aswell quit while you're ahead.
Nothing good ever comes from cocaine.....

this means nothing because 80% coke could be cut with 20% of insoluble cut, or blow that dissolves perfectly in water instantly could be 10% blow with a number of cut's that also dissolve in water. No need to wait either, blow is very water soluble so if it doesn't dissolve within a few seconds it isn't coke.

agree with the quit while you are ahead thing, if you aren't feeling anything just stop lol because once you feel something, extreme euphoria likely, it is game over.

 

[Cornishman]

this means nothing because 80% coke could be cut with 20% of insoluble cut, or blow that dissolves perfectly in water instantly could be 10% blow with a number of cut's that also dissolve in water. No need to wait either, blow is very water soluble so if it doesn't dissolve within a few seconds it isn't coke.

agree with the quit while you are ahead thing, if you aren't feeling anything just stop lol because once you feel something, extreme euphoria likely, it is game over.

Obv water soluble cuts like mannitol aren't subject to the test. It's just a quick easy way to determine the absolute bottom of the line crap from what could possibly be cocaine.

 

[pbuilder]

Obv water soluble cuts like mannitol aren't subject to the test. It's just a quick easy way to determine the absolute bottom of the line crap from what could possibly be cocaine.

yea but caffeine, amphetamines, meth, etc. are all very soluble in cocaine (caffeine to an extent as long as the water isn't cold). I mean it is more likely for really sh*tty cocaine to have soluble cuts than fake or terrible cocaine to have non-soluble cuts. Generally if you are gonna chop terribly cut cocaine, you are gonna at least make it seem legit. That's my opinion though, who know's what some dealers have going through there mind...

 

[rymerkk]

Could be environment and I hate mentioning this because it is against HR if you do this but getting drunk then doing some lines of coke gives me much MUCH more euphoria than coke sober. Like 10fold to 100x more, I can feel so fucking good with this combo it is magical.

18 days sober from coke.

the reason why the mixture of alcohol and cocaine feels better is because when you have alcohol in your system and do cocaine it forms a new substance in your body called 'cocaethylene' (i believe thats how its spelled) and has a longer duration of action and more potent euphoric effects with slightly less stimualnt-type effects. doing a google search of cocaethylene will provide more information

 

[pbuilder]

the reason why the mixture of alcohol and cocaine feels better is because when you have alcohol in your system and do cocaine it forms a new substance in your body called 'cocaethylene' (i believe thats how its spelled) and has a longer duration of action and more potent euphoric effects with slightly less stimualnt-type effects. doing a google search of cocaethylene will provide more information

lol i obviously know all this sh*t hense the against Harm Reduction. I personally believe the whole coca-ethylene is another government drug propoganda tactic, and it isn't that much more toxic cause I've done it 50+ times and am just fine but that's my opinion

 

[rymerkk]

lol i obviously know all this sh*t hense the against Harm Reduction. I personally believe the whole coca-ethylene is another government drug propoganda tactic, and it isn't that much more toxic cause I've done it 50+ times and am just fine but that's my opinion

oh i wasn't stating anything to it's toxicity as i've done a little reading on it before (no extensive research or anything) and was just stating as to why most people enjoy the alcohol & coke mixture more than just coke on it's own. i too have done this many times and am in pretty good health (at least to my knowledge =P).

 

[pbuilder]

oh i wasn't stating anything to it's toxicity as i've done a little reading on it before (no extensive research or anything) and was just stating as to why most people enjoy the alcohol & coke mixture more than just coke on it's own. i too have done this many times and am in pretty good health (at least to my knowledge =P).

haha alright yea man it is way more enjoyable though, i just assumed you thought I didn't know why this occurrence was happening. Alcohol in the beggining stages is recently euphoric itself though, so maybe it is a synergy type occurrence happening as-well, either way coca-ethylene gets me flyyinnggggg.

 

[slimb]

smoking base cocaine is so much better than sniffing cocaine hcl

qft

 

[Cornishman]

yea but caffeine, amphetamines, meth, etc. are all very soluble in cocaine (caffeine to an extent as long as the water isn't cold). I mean it is more likely for really sh*tty cocaine to have soluble cuts than fake or terrible cocaine to have non-soluble cuts. Generally if you are gonna chop terribly cut cocaine, you are gonna at least make it seem legit. That's my opinion though, who know's what some dealers have going through there mind...

I'm guessing you're in the U.S?

Here in the U.K a surprising amount of 'coke' I come across isn't even water soluble. It's frightening at just how dumb the dealers are.
Even more scary is the amount of people who are willing to pay silly money for it.