RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

[FlyinHigh82]

Got some today from a Polish vendor. Came in the form of clear, little crystals.

Crushed them up really really fine, and did two 15 mg lines. I sniffed slowly and it stung like a bitch (but not unbearably so) so I know it's definitely ethylphenidate. I'm definitely stimmed up, have a dry mouth, but I'm not really enjoying it nor getting any euphoria.

Definitely stimmed up though.

This is not enjoyable to be honest, nor is it in any way better than coke.

Maybe I took too much? Or too little? Or maybe another ROA would be more enjoyable?

 

[SilentRoller]

I have never tried ethylphenidate myself, but a rather stupid (and intoxicated) friend of mine got hold of a gram, and proceeded to rack up a fat coke-size line and......I don't need to say anymore. What followed was about 6-7 hours of intense paranoia and cardiovascular stress. He never did it again......

 

[InsatiablePeace]

Hi guys

I was wondering if anyone here could explain my so-far patchy experience with ephylphenidate.

First time I took it at 20mg it was very euphoric and made me hyper-sexual for hours. Typing speed was incredible. I came up within 40mins.

After weeks of abstinance I have tried it again today at 60mg along with 100mg of MDAI and for the first couple of hours I felt hardly anything. I bombed another 100mg of ethylphenidate after 2hrs and then 15mins later I experienced what I thought was oncoming euphoria but now I just feel rough.

What is going on here? Do you build tolerance to this stuff real quick or something?

 

[Juremo]

I want to order some more, however I am hesitant to insulfate it. The following days after those two lines, I had a runny nose with bloody snot, and my nose didn't feel right at all. Took a two days for it to go away.

I also won't snort the powder again. As you and many others have reported it's just not worth the pain and damage to your nose.
However if you dissolve it in water and put it in a nasal inhaler it does not burn at all. It dries out your nose but if you add a bit of salt even this becomes hardly noticeable.
If you don't have such an inhaler you can also squirt the liquid in your nose with an oral syringe (very slowly and very little at a time, otherwise it will just drip down your throat).

Of course this way you won't be able to consume large doses. But imho this is actually a good thing. 20-40mg with my inhaler gives a very noticeable coke-like buzz with some residual stimulation. Redosing works well too. But no wonder people who take 10 times that dose and then complain that it is jittery....

The only negative experience I had with EP was in combination with a low dose of amphetamine. Felt jittery for a long time and couldnt sleep hours later.

 

[moor12]

I have sniffed, eaten and injected this stuff.

Taken orally (200mg), you can expect slow come-up, mild stimulation, steady buzz (not rush), increased music appreciation, talkativeness and a bit more than elevated mood which will last about 2-3 hours, followed by slight anxiety, loss of interest, empty stimulation, exhaustion and mild cravings.

Sniffing (150mg) will provide a faster come-up (2-3 minutes), mild euphoric rush, slightly chaotic head buzz, increased music appreciation and talkativeness, which lasts about 1.5h, followed by more intense comedown and cravings.

Injecting (100mg) will give you a short, intense, euphoric rush (lasting 5-10 minutes), chaotic head buzz (mephedrone like), increased music appreciation and talkativeness, which will last up to an hour, followed by intense cravings and comedown.

 

[Tony Williams]

I have alot of this in my stash, I do like using it yes daily but I wanna keep the dose as low as ideally Ritalin, ETH are my first true stim addictions. Been on ETH since March and rit 1-2month before.

I usually snort it some times like last night I blew out and went all night - slamming it all morning like a fucking idoit with heroin (I feel this atm is under control iving it).

my options are cold turkey it and stash it at a family menbers or in my NEW CAPTUREDDISAPLINE SAFE (once it comes). Or maybe NO SNORTY but pre-weigh it into a liquid (like oral methadone is :D) and drink multiple times a day and taper down. or maybe make make some pills/tabs 50mg eth+binders and just "dose as needed".

I feel more dependent on this substance than anything it's like.

0 no stims(eth) I lie in bed doing little
1-4 - this is good stuff just like maintence? :D
but more bring a high than just a stimulation and I wind up wasting time doing crap all night, spent 24hr at this keyboard useless.

I have sniffed, eaten and injected this stuff.

Taken orally (200mg), you can expect slow come-up, mild stimulation, steady buzz (not rush), increased music appreciation, talkativeness and a bit more than elevated mood which will last about 2-3 hours, followed by slight anxiety, loss of interest, empty stimulation, exhaustion and mild cravings.

Sniffing (150mg) will provide a faster come-up (2-3 minutes), mild euphoric rush, slightly chaotic head buzz, increased music appreciation and talkativeness, which lasts about 1.5h, followed by more intense comedown and cravings.

Injecting (100mg) will give you a short, intense, euphoric rush (lasting 5-10 minutes), chaotic head buzz (mephedrone like), increased music appreciation and talkativeness, which will last up to an hour, followed by intense cravings and comedown.

Please be aware this is a stupid amount for a normal person, even half is quite high. Moor are you sure it's pure eth as I know alot is powdered down. Myself has hammered it and built a similer tolerence, so I stopped and stuck with 50mg lines (as doses)

 

[knock]

Please be aware this is a stupid amount for a normal person, even half is quite high. Moor are you sure it's pure eth as I know alot is powdered down. Myself has hammered it and built a similer tolerence, so I stopped and stuck with 50mg lines (as doses)

Agreed!

 

[stratofortress]

I've got to second the nasal inhaler method. I use a rinsed out eye dropper bottle and it works a charm....stick up snooter, lie back, suck n' blow. As others have said, this ROA probably causes just as much damage as straight up snorting - but it's a lot more covert and convenient once the fiending sets in.

I'm also surprised at how little people are taking. A gram lasts me about 24 hours. Please don't mistake this for dicksizing; I'm sure this is pretty bad for me. I wonder, having recently been prescribed Duloxetine (SNRI) and Pregabalin, whether these types of med diminish the ephyl's effects, since before i *ahem* landed up in psychiatric hospital for 5 weeks, the buzz was much more pronounced (likewise the crash utterly awful; now nonexistent).

 

[moor12]

Please be aware this is a stupid amount for a normal person, even half is quite high. Moor are you sure it's pure eth as I know alot is powdered down. Myself has hammered it and built a similer tolerence, so I stopped and stuck with 50mg lines (as doses)

Yes, I have analysis for the purity. I've had it both in crystal and powder form. While it definitely is a high-end dose, it's nowhere near overdose.

 

[DickTate]

stratofortress: Pregabalin is known for making stimulant comedowns a lot less unpleasant. So there is your explanation.

Yes, I have analysis for the purity. I've had it both in crystal and powder form. While it definitely is a high-end dose, it's nowhere near overdose.

For you maybe. I personally would never take more than 30-40mg "oral" since those doses affect me pretty hard as probably other occasional users. Just wanted to point that out. 100mg could be a massive OD for non-tolerant people.

 

[Mela]

Yup, as above, I find oral doses above 40-50mg lead to a nasty jittery state. Doses 10-20mg work fine for me (with negligible jittery after-effects)

 

[moor12]

For you maybe. I personally would never take more than 30-40mg "oral" since those doses affect me pretty hard as probably other occasional users. Just wanted to point that out. 100mg could be a massive OD for non-tolerant people.

There are hundreds of people (on a different, drug-related forum) with no tolerance to EPH who have taken 100-150mg on their first time, and none of them overdosed. It might be intense, it might be jittery, but it's out of overdose range, unless you weight 40kgs.

Obviously, a person with no tolerance trying to inject 100-150mg will likely experience typical overdose symptoms, but I never encouraged anyone to do it. I have massive tolerance to stimulants in general, so my dosage range will differ from most users.

 

[Groundhog]

I have alot of this in my stash, I do like using it yes daily but I wanna keep the dose as low as ideally Ritalin, ETH are my first true stim addictions. Been on ETH since March and rit 1-2month before.

I usually snort it some times like last night I blew out and went all night - slamming it all morning like a fucking idoit with heroin (I feel this atm is under control iving it).

my options are cold turkey it and stash it at a family menbers or in my NEW CAPTUREDDISAPLINE SAFE (once it comes). Or maybe NO SNORTY but pre-weigh it into a liquid (like oral methadone is :D) and drink multiple times a day and taper down. or maybe make make some pills/tabs 50mg eth+binders and just "dose as needed".

I feel more dependent on this substance than anything it's like.

0 no stims(eth) I lie in bed doing little
1-4 - this is good stuff just like maintence? :D
but more bring a high than just a stimulation and I wind up wasting time doing crap all night, spent 24hr at this keyboard useless.




Please be aware this is a stupid amount for a normal person, even half is quite high. Moor are you sure it's pure eth as I know alot is powdered down. Myself has hammered it and built a similer tolerence, so I stopped and stuck with 50mg lines (as doses)

So finally a post emerges that states dependence! Which I am obviously sorry to hear of, I had just expected this to happen a lot sooner than it has.

Do you actually get any withdrawal symptoms, physically, and also mentally when you stop using or until you have used a maintenance dose? Or do you jut feel unmotivated without?

I was using this daily for 7 months continually sometimes for days on end, the longest was 6 days no sleep, and I would use up to 5g in a day. It took 500mg just to get out of bed, actually just to move, there were times I couldnt move the few inches to reach it to sort myself out, so I had 500mg single dose pre-dissolved in a container mounted on the wall next to my bed.

If you want to stop, I would reccomend cold turkey if you arent experiencing severe withdrawal symptoms. Tapering would seem to be the best solution, but good luck trying to control that, I couldn't, maybe you can but if it's around, the tapering plan will probably soon be out of the window.

I have just had to be clinically detoxed in a specialist in-patient detox facility, the first known case in the UK (I am not stating this proudly whatsoever) and they did their job extremely well. I, on the other hand didnt. I cant get this shit out of my mind and hit the 2g I had stashed at home when I got backand then subsequently scraped every remaining scrap from a shit load of accumulated baggies before hitting a bit of MDMA that I had knocking about in sheer desperation.

If you are using moderate amounts, get out before it gets worse which it inevitably will do trust me. I wish I could do it and just use small amounts but I wouldn't even consider the amounts people are (sensibly) using, I would barely notice it unfortunately.

To the people who are considering plugging, just dont. The shit that happens to your nose? well it does similar to your arse after a while, I plugged it for quite a while and got very ill, pure mucous coming from my arse and it also gets very tweaky, I felt like a meth head. I recovered a while after stopping and the pain my bowel also ceased.

Oral is the best and safest IMO.

 

[RobotRipping]

has anyone tried the d enantiomer of ethylphenidate? is it less anxiogenic? less harsh of a comedown?

 

[scottishdnb]

Insufflation (Snorting) is not the way to go with this one.

Takes MONTHS to recover your nose.

5g or thereabouts over a few weeks some time ago.

 

[THCified]

5gs in a few weeks!? I think 40mgs once a week wouldn't have fucked up your nose.

 

[missimoo]

Finally decided to try this...despite my instinct telling me not to (having had an coke problem in the past and being renowned for no self control (and reading the stories here of weeks/months long binges....

so for my ten cents woths

....not slept well for AGES...been on a "bad" MXE binge, but bad, I mean a binge on poor shit thats been in the uk...so sleep deprived. (fell asleep 8am...this arrived with etizolam at 7am, i took etilozalm slept till lunch time)

so lunch time. in bed. swore i wasn't going to take anything. curiosity got to me (after being brought a cup of tea by my partner in bed)

crystalline substance big cystals.

30 mg sinufated

fine.

T +20seconds OWCH!!!! but not that bad..thinks "i dont know what people mean, its not that painful

T + 30 second MOTHER F^&KER! that HURTS¬

+40 seconds later, pain goes. Smiles

feels it coming on, smiles, gets out of bed with a skip

_1min 30 seconds.. reminds me of coke without the agitation, cheap coke, comparable anyway....not the same, but similar. clean.

3min... two of the first things that happen to me when i do coke happens. 1) need a poo. 2) sick (i always get sick on ANY drug)

t + 30 min, out of bed, dressed music on, but thinking "mmmm...ok...so initial buzz wore off...redose, risk taking too much, but not quite there.

20 mg bump.... doesnt hurt this time.

bit agitated. take 1 mg etizolam

t +45 another 25 mg insufated.

t 1 hour. cleaned house, feeling nice. dont want / need more yet. dont want to be "agitated"

has waves of feeling nice rush and "mmm not quite sure if im feeling it.....slightly agitated...to nice again"

over all, a nice way to perk up and get things done around the house, but can see huge binge potential and can see its easy to take TOO MUCH and get agitated.

out of all the post meph stims, my fav. (i may change my mind if i go into a binge)

so far so good.

EDIT: AT END OF THE NIGHT : not impressed. morish, which leads to agitation and redosing

 

[Liminality]

I'm also surprised at how little people are taking. A gram lasts me about 24 hours. Please don't mistake this for dicksizing; I'm sure this is pretty bad for me..

I don't think this is dicksizing at all, rather, valuable harm reduction information.

In my experience with this compound, larger doses provide an intense rush shortly followed by an uncomfortable stimulation and a unique anxiety, which is then followed by an awful comedown. I hate it, AND THEN I GO BACK AND DO MORE >_<. I could easily see myself consuming a gram in a night/day, but I don't think I could cope with the side effects as well as you, or just have less experience/tolerance with stimulants.

Everyone reacts differently. I think for me, this one is more useful in low, and spaced out doses, rather than chasing that high which I don't ever reach.

For me, 10-30mg isn't very fun, but its a hell of a lot cleaner, and more useful experience.

For recreation i find ~60mg over a night with some MDAI is very pleasant, empowering, sociable, mildly empathetic, and has less compulsion to redose.

Tread carefully with (re)dosing, I find it quite hard to stop once I start. A lower dose might just be a better high for you. Experiment!

Stay safe, have fun.

:D

 

[Tony Williams]

Ok for research purpose I have snroted ALOT of this, about 26g up me nose. Now what I want to do is make an ORAL slution? I wanna take 1g and add it to say 100ml water and have it distrobuted. I want to pour 10ml and get 100mg lets say and dose it orally to kick my nasual use.

So finally a post emerges that states dependence! Which I am obviously sorry to hear of, I had just expected this to happen a lot sooner than it has.

Do you actually get any withdrawal symptoms, physically, and also mentally when you stop using or until you have used a maintenance dose? Or do you jut feel unmotivated without?

I was using this daily for 7 months continually sometimes for days on end, the longest was 6 days no sleep, and I would use up to 5g in a day. It took 500mg just to get out of bed, actually just to move, there were times I couldnt move the few inches to reach it to sort myself out, so I had 500mg single dose pre-dissolved in a container mounted on the wall next to my bed.

*snip*

Oral is the best and safest IMO.

Ok I spent yesterday in bed, I got up toady ok, only there was NO ETH about the wd syptoms were NO MOTIVATION, CRAVINGS, FEELING WEAK. However I COULD go out, thestops etc unlike an opiate wd. I went 20min walk to my place and scooped up aload more. I keep my stash in another house. I plan on making an oral solution as I said up there and you sad.

Another thing I take 5htp and saint johns wort. Now I find I dont get any real efftct now, should I stop SJW asI think thatis to blame.

 

[Tony Williams]

To put it out there I went and got like 6+g here now. Been on it still since this afternoon. GREAT it was but I overdo it and waste time.