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19 y/old perthling, and fuck me meth is a rollercoaster ride. I ceased use after 6 months of serious binges. Scored a FIFO job and burnt the fuck out of my money, devastating doing my taxes to see id spent easy 20-30 grand over that time(a lot of fat community pipes to go around with mates) . Its amazing after stopping use to see how slow time passes while off it. The past few months have been going by at a snails pace. So happy to safely say i will never touch the pipe again. To be quite honest i kinda wish i IV'd it, would have had closer tabs on how much i was using, plus the stigma associated with IV would have reduced how much i shouted. The highs i experienced will never be recreated and the feeling of rushes throughout your whole body and brain was just all too pleasurable, it has forever been cemented in my memories. Best and worst decision you will make in your life. If you enjoy inhaling vapours or smoke you are asking for a lot of trouble with this insidious demon.
 
I've noticed that too, about the time going so much slower when you're not using. There's years of my life when I was using where I feel like I remember only a handful of things happening - they seemed to fly by in the blink of an eye. I guess because there were no real reference points, every day was much the same. The year and a half I've been off feels so long in comparison - which is a good thing, I've done so much since I've stopped using.
 
Sorry to go a bit OT but this is the appropriate thread for my question.

I have recently seen some decent looking "shard", which tested relatively slowly although still decently to orange with marquis, crushed a little bit too easily for my liking (but still not terrible), and tastes appropriately bitter. An old Simons tester also went a little blue too.

It smokes fine, snaps back as quickly as it should but with a very nice fan like pattern (which I am always suspicious of). Also, after a few recrystallisations it does go a little grey/brown.

So in terms of those observations it is not looking like it is going to be fantastic but it is also nothing completely out of the ordinary either.

The mystery begins with its effects. The mental high is "there" but just doesn't take you to the heights you want to go. Meanwhile, the physical effects are very strong. Raised heart rate, faster than it normally gets with really good gear, and significant vasoconstriction. It is also difficult to sleep on, so something is having a fairly extended effect. What annoys me is that given how the body is going the mental high should be much better than it is but it is not. Normally with less than stellar gear I find the physical effects are just as underwhelming as the mental. With this the physical effects are too pronounced when compared to the corresponding mental to be simply low purity d-methylamphetamine.

Any ideas? I have considered whether I have DL-methylamphetamine and the higher body effects but lower mental is due to half of it being the L enantiomer. I have considered dimethylamphetamine and methylamphetamine in the one mixture, which I know has come up in lab results before. More worryingly, I am wondering whether it might be some meth, some MSM and then some type of research chemical such as MDVP or a-PVP (especially after the cocaine and a-PVP thread) all mixed up and then recrystallised into decent looking crystals. Either way it is not how it should be and I would be interested in people's views. This originated from Melbourne.
 
Noone can tell you. Since its a secondary amine then I suppose it could be methiopropamine or something. Or perhaps L-meth.
 
I realise that. Perhaps I should have also said, "has anyone else come across something similar?" Educated theories are welcome. I am well aware I won't get any greater clarity beyond this.
 
Just sitting here with something similar in Melbourne... AND NOT A HAPPY PUFFER. Well, when I say similar, I mean to say that I have a bag of decent enough shards - I've had worse. They are clear, the right shape, a little small but do-able. Ah but still... It doesn't look right. They are also easily broken. I don't have access to a test kit, other than my own years of experience and my trusty sweet puff. I can't give you much help in the chemistry department, but I can say that the ice industry is becoming very sophisticated in the ways it can fool the lowly past-time puffer into believing it has bought good shard.

However, in my case, we have shit shards. I can't take a trick lately. Melbourne distributors of good quality chemicals are getting hard to find and hard to keep.

While it vapors up fine.. It is different and more "vapory" than normal vapor. It is relatively tasteless. It doesnt have that good old cracky taste.

The recrystallization pattern ... Not like anything I have ever witnessed. It takes MINUTES for it to crack back in, and it does so in several small circles that get closer and closer and increase in size and quantity... Weird. It seems oily while it cracks.

The appearance in the bag itself is 'damp-ish' but not wet. It sticks to itself. The effects are leading me to believe a GHB cut has occured. It does not have any of the physical effects of meth, but my mind has well and truly expanded out to the left. My vision is slightly blurred and I feel somewhat drowsy, yet somewhat stimulated mentally. Weird.

I had my hands on the real deal through the week last week, returned to the same source, and landed with this. Uggh. It's almost enough to put me off... Hahaha!
 
Don't think it would be cut with GHB. Pretty sure you can't smoke it? Even if you took it orally, the GHB probably wouldn't do too much if it's only making the crystals a bit damp. Might be some kind of GHB lacing trend that I'm now aware of.
 
It has been a while since I posted but I'm back with another ramble. Here we go.

For such a long time I've had constant dramas and general bullshit to deal with, too much shit crammed into a 3 year period. I'm a bit emotional so I had a wee cry and made sure I didn't sook too my friends to much (Fuck that's annoying) and got stuck into dealing with it all. Didn't smoke much shard at the start due to no money but about got back into it in September last year. Smoked pretty mean stuff when I could but not on epic levels cause I was still getting my shit together.

Anyway, love rolling the bowl and smoking monster crystals like everyone else here but forgot how much better anything is when you're in control of your life. It's odd because I've always known that but I guess I've had lots of shit on my mind so I didn't give it a second thought.

Now fast forward to 4 weeks ago (or rewind?) and I have finally paid off my debt ($13,000 worth), got my work situation working for me, Got my teeth fixed (6 visits) a few good friends who are reliably awesome. I think everything is back on track.

So my point, smoked some mad shit over the last few days, same quality stuff I usually get but fuck me what a better ride, up, down, the middle, all much better. Been up a couple of days but done a lot of productive shit, work, early spring clean, got a little exercise (nothing too strenuous) Ate some food, mostly soft foods, yogurt, a protein shake, some fruit etc. Gonna chill at home tonight and smoke a little more, smoke a few spliffs and listen to music (my true addiction, 300Gb worth) then take something to knock me out.

Off on an adventure to visit some long lost friends tomorrow, looking forward to seeing them two smilies worth :) :)

Hope you're all well.
 
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Hey, well done, sounds like you've made a massive effort :) It does sounds like you're in a dangerous position there though - I think the 'successful relapse' is probably one of the most dangerous things that can happen to someone who has had trouble with meth before. By 'successful', I mean what you've alluded to - using and sticking to the time/amount/price limit you've set yourself, keeping up with your commitments, keeping yourself as healthy as you can - in short, the experience has been almost entirely positive with hardly any negatives. It's seductive and demonstrates the insidiousness of meth at its finest. It can also completely obscure the reasons why you've cut back or taken a break in the first place - because you've managed to keep control this time, it lends the illusion that control with meth is as simple as that, as simple as trying harder. And of course, recent memories are usually more salient than ones from long ago - especially with something as emotionally intense as methamphetamine.

I hope this doesn't come across as lecturing or anything - that's not my intention -these are thoughts that I've had regarding my experience in the past, and may not resonate with your situation at all. I just hope you don't lose the results of any of your hard work over meth <3
 
Be very careful as footy said, I've managed to stop for nearly 3 months now, still getting the odd mental images of the vapour twirling around(unbelievable how cemented that image is in my memories). I've managed to get back on track with a job and distancing from certain individuals but the next hurdle is when I get my tax back, a cheeky 5000. I'm going to fend off any ideas of scoring with strenuous exercise and loving people to surround me. I've since been diagnosed with moderate to severe ADHD, but exercise and nutrition really can keep these debilitating symptoms at bay without stimulants( aside from freshly brewed espresso:) absolutely love the taste and warmth in the morning.
 
Trying to balance the 'I don't have a meth problem' with 'My use is out of control' is the broken record that seems to have been playing in my head for just a bit too long now.

Like other uses are finding, the quality is defenantly suspect. I sometimes get stuff that has me achieving heaps around the house, but also been scoring stuff that just leaves me flat and feeling lazy. Something I have also noticed is I can be in the best mood on it.. Or the fucking worst mood. I'm not sure if this is linked to product or just me.

About 3 months ago my finances were at there worst they have probably ever been. Credit card maxed out. No savings. Bills and mortgage always paid but I was lending from the Cash Dr to score or pay bills.

Decided to refinance a decent amount of cash, no where near what I could have (or wish I had), but enough to manage and do what I needed to do. Paid off credit card, made some decent furniture purchases and did some big home modifications which are awesome.

It's really hard to work out what I blew on meth though, as my fortnightly wage was coming in too. But I'd hate to do the math.

So I do feel I've improved my situation a little financially, but the pull the shit has on your mind is so incredibley powerful!!

I can tell myself, ok last lot was shit, it's really not 'doin it' for me anymore, I need to be a better partner, employee, parent, daughter, friend etc, I think about the things I could have or do... So just don't buy anything, but if I get a text saying its available, saying no just isn't a consideration.

Hell weak really. I have a pretty big birthday coming up next year. To think of myself past that age still doing what I am.. As frequently as I am is scary.

My admiration for those who have quit for long periods is huge. I know I could do it.. I guess I'm just not quite ready to yet. But to those who have, you have my respect.

Mmm bit of a rant. I guess this batch is a good one ;-)
 
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I can tell myself, ok last lot was shit, it's really not 'doin it' for me anymore, I need to be a better partner, employee, parent, daughter, friend etc, I think about the things I could have or do... So just don't buy anything, but if I get a text saying its available, saying no just isn't a consideration.
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Can you ask the people not to contact you when it's available? If you can't maybe think about getting a new number. Getting a call or a text can be a pretty major trigger :)
 
Change numbers, that's what I had to do. You really have to be proactive, remember that this addiction will stay for a longggg time, it's a whole other story whether its a controlled addiction with reduced bumpy rides, or a rollercoaster ride with the lights out and the safety bars still up.
 
I have said to hime from time to time that I need to have a break and he does respect that. Been friends for years so its hard to cut ties. He knows me my partner and our situation really well and as much as yes he wants my coin, he wants to help me out, but I know he also feels he is betraying my boyfriend / his mate as my partner hates my habit.

I did once delete his mumber, then got it from my boyfriends phone again, and stored it with a ZZZ in front of his name..... errrrr yeah ummm made it so much harder for me to locate in my contacts..not :-S

I know I am just making excuses for myself. I know I will need to quit or at least try to go longer than a few weeks without. But I know I am just not quite ready to yet.
 
Completely understand your situation Popeye, I had to really fuck up ties with these people and reinvent myself at least from an outsider looking in, got a strong network of family who could understand to a degree what was going on, fuck me time is going slow now it's over! I'm in the process of stopping all marijuana and tobacco use, getting too depressed from it, considering getting the ADHD meds cause I feel like I'm just trying so hard to be in a good place and self medicating but its only really occurring maybe an hour following exercise and 0-30 minutes after a toke. I'm so keen to eliminate all inhalation of vapour/smoke. Got rid of the pip, marijuana cant be so hard, although I do feel ifs a toughie with it being 5 years of chronic use. Shit drug looking back, makes you feel content doing sweet fuck all everyday.
 
Breaking away from the social scene of the pippa, the circle of all those associates you build over time, the different dealers that pop up, the food chain, the quest to climb up it... All the fiends and all of your so-called "friends"... Living in the suburb of Shardyville is as addictive as smoking the substance itself. "Breaking away" is so fricken hard and so fricken isolating, and I felt literally afraid to lose people's numbers - because I didn't want to let the shards go.. But people got fiendier and more shit went down, people betray you and fuck you over, friends turn into fiends and in the end, it made my decision for me.. Fuck that shit. Anyway not to simplify things but I own my own consumption now, im not in debt to anyone, I dont pretend crackheads are my friends and we all pay for our own shit. I now enjoy the shit whenever i can and it couldn't have happened without the fiends fucking me over and me having it up to the back teeth with the shit!
 
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While it vapors up fine.. It is different and more "vapory" than normal vapor. It is relatively tasteless. It doesnt have that good old cracky taste.

The recrystallization pattern ... Not like anything I have ever witnessed. It takes MINUTES for it to crack back in, and it does so in several small circles that get closer and closer and increase in size and quantity... Weird. It seems oily while it cracks.

The appearance in the bag itself is 'damp-ish' but not wet. It sticks to itself. The effects are leading me to believe a GHB cut has occured. It does not have any of the physical effects of meth, but my mind has well and truly expanded out to the left. My vision is slightly blurred and I feel somewhat drowsy, yet somewhat stimulated mentally.
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Sounds like the trademark's of isopropylbenzylamine. a meth mimic chemical being used a cut or just being passed off entirely as the real deal by unknowing, or unscrupulous dealers.

"Leopard" like spots when recrystallising, taking anywhere from 30 seconds too 5 minutes to finally set back in the pipe is the tell tale sign.

Little to no physiological effect yet the same molar mass and crystal structure, and almost the same vapor temperature point, producing a decent ammount of smoke compared to other cutting agents like msm.

Also iv seen a batch of it that had the same watery look in the bag that you mention, oily appearance...

The % of gear in your product I would say would be low... Very low. :(
 
Anti-Down... ive been getting exactly the same gear in country Victoria!... more often than not ;-/
Ive just googled images of Isopropylbenzylamine - im now certain that is the stuff that has been in the gear im getting. This stuff looks as good, if not better than legit shards and smokes almost too well. Grrr, here my dealer is trying to tell me that it must be my tolerance and that everyone else thinks it's the "bomb" gear! Even more grrr's at myself for still buying gear loaded with this stuff again and again. Victoria/Melbourne quality has become the pits :-( What a great reason to quit! :-) Damn, what a daunting though ...
Thanks theloneraver for helping me finally identify this mysterious ingredient, lol :-)
 
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