Whosajiggawaaa
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Hey wondering if the result is worth the effort and slight humiliation lol ? Is it MUCH better than oral or snorting ? These are old formula OC's btw.
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Opioids Plugging OxyContin - worth it ?
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Seeing as shooting up oxycontin/oxycodone (IV use) doesn't give a "rush" or even a significantly stronger high compared to oral administration, I'd assume there is no benefit to plugging the stuff. And actually, I'd think there's a good chance the high you get will be WEAKER than the high you woulda gotten via oral or nasal use.
I say that b/c the BA for oral is so high that if anything, I'd think the BA for plugging is lower, or at best, equal to the oral BA. And on top of that, rectal absorption is effected by how clean your rectum is, I imagine everyone has some built up feces in their rectum, and therefore doubt anyone has 100% of the surfaces in their rectum exposed and able to absorb the oxy. Plus, technique plays a big role in how effective plugging is: how deep the solution is inserted, how much or how little fluid is used, how concentrated the solution is, what position one is in during and immediately after administration, and how well the solution is prepared.
So unless you have perfect technique and are well experienced, the actual high you get will be weaker than what was theoretically possible b/c of all these variables....
B/c of all these issues I'd say that even with perfect technique, the BA and the high will be weaker than what is theoretically possible from plugging. Combined with the fact that most people say Oxy doesn't even give a rush/better high when injected vs orally taken, I'd say plugging is weaker, has lower BA and gives a less intense high than eating or snorting would give.
And IME plugging is never worth it, never better than the alternative ROAs (not including IV) and just not worth it. Maybe a chem like Dilaudid or MDMA would feel better plugged than eaten, but as far as Oxy goes, ESPECIALLY
With the original formula--crush up and snort or swallow
And whatever you do pls be careful. Some ppl still insist plugging is right below IV, so if you do plug, don't use more than you would take orally or snorted to compensate for what I've mentioned above--just take ur usual dose and see what happens..
I say that b/c the BA for oral is so high that if anything, I'd think the BA for plugging is lower, or at best, equal to the oral BA. And on top of that, rectal absorption is effected by how clean your rectum is, I imagine everyone has some built up feces in their rectum, and therefore doubt anyone has 100% of the surfaces in their rectum exposed and able to absorb the oxy. Plus, technique plays a big role in how effective plugging is: how deep the solution is inserted, how much or how little fluid is used, how concentrated the solution is, what position one is in during and immediately after administration, and how well the solution is prepared.
So unless you have perfect technique and are well experienced, the actual high you get will be weaker than what was theoretically possible b/c of all these variables....
B/c of all these issues I'd say that even with perfect technique, the BA and the high will be weaker than what is theoretically possible from plugging. Combined with the fact that most people say Oxy doesn't even give a rush/better high when injected vs orally taken, I'd say plugging is weaker, has lower BA and gives a less intense high than eating or snorting would give.
And IME plugging is never worth it, never better than the alternative ROAs (not including IV) and just not worth it. Maybe a chem like Dilaudid or MDMA would feel better plugged than eaten, but as far as Oxy goes, ESPECIALLY
With the original formula--crush up and snort or swallow
And whatever you do pls be careful. Some ppl still insist plugging is right below IV, so if you do plug, don't use more than you would take orally or snorted to compensate for what I've mentioned above--just take ur usual dose and see what happens..
BeachBum4u
Bluelighter
If you have access to the old OC's, why in the world wouldn't you snort those bad boys? Out of all the meds I've had, the old OC's were only outdone by the old Opanas. Once snorted, they hit immediately and the good news is, you can probably get by with only doing half of an 80mg pill and totally enjoy. Good Luck whatever you do!
waldo777 is right on the money with his post. There is no rush with this particular drug and the other ROAs you are using have very high BA given that these are the old style pills.
Should you try plugging it though, it's not crucial, but I would say filter first, and dose a little lower than you normally would just to be on the safe side.
Should you try plugging it though, it's not crucial, but I would say filter first, and dose a little lower than you normally would just to be on the safe side.
Whosajiggawaaa
Bluelighter
Yeah, though I'd give my nose a break - is clogged up good and proper. Seems after some searching it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Plugging oxycodone can be worth it, it's been reported that in many individuals, there can be a ~10% bioavailability gain taken via the rectal route, however there are other factors involved. But a 10% BA gain for a drug that's already like ~87% bioavailable? That's like 97% if you do the math, so you tell me if it's worth it. I've noticed that sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it's not, it's kinda unreliable compared to oral dosing.
In my experience, the best and easiest way to get analgesia from the *codones is to pop them orally. However, rectal oxycodone has the benefit of instantaneous onset, almost like IV but with way less risk involved.
In my opinion, snorting oxycodone is silly, it's got a pitiful nasal BA. Orally is the best ROA if you can wait 15 minutes, if you absolutely MUST feel oxycodone RIGHT NOW then yeah, plugging is worth a try.
In my experience, the best and easiest way to get analgesia from the *codones is to pop them orally. However, rectal oxycodone has the benefit of instantaneous onset, almost like IV but with way less risk involved.
In my opinion, snorting oxycodone is silly, it's got a pitiful nasal BA. Orally is the best ROA if you can wait 15 minutes, if you absolutely MUST feel oxycodone RIGHT NOW then yeah, plugging is worth a try.
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Gaz_hmmmm
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Don't snort oxycodone (OxyContin or instant release or even fucking 100% pure powder) as the bioavailability of pure oxycodone (Not cut obviously with binders like when you crush an OC) is only a very crap 25%!!!!! So sniffing OC's is evwn less BA than 25% cause of the binders/fillers also clogging your nose and stopping the Oxy' being absorped!
Only sniff it if your tolerance is very low (But even then you may as well take it orally as you absorb more and the buzz lasts longer! Also orally is less psychologically addictive since it kicks in slower, but is just as physically addictive!) or you have access to vast amounts of cheap oxy' and aren't gonna run out when you're sniffing a gram's worth of OC even though at the most you're absorbing 250mg of that 1000mg (Once again, obviously less than 250mg cause of binders/fillers!)
When I did use Oxycodone (I'm in the UK so it was a rare treat!) it was OC80's made by NAPP as they have a license from Purdue to make and cause they're not big/popular here they're still the old pill form i.e. crush and sniff! And also OxyNorm instant liquid. Good stuff but once I found out the BA it was almost always taken orally, sometimes I'd take maybe 10-20% of the dosage intranasally when I felt the oral dose kicking in to help give it an extra kick and me what felt like a rush except once afterwards I tried plugging half my dosage and it seemed alright, but I prefer orally for Oxy' now.
Only sniff it if your tolerance is very low (But even then you may as well take it orally as you absorb more and the buzz lasts longer! Also orally is less psychologically addictive since it kicks in slower, but is just as physically addictive!) or you have access to vast amounts of cheap oxy' and aren't gonna run out when you're sniffing a gram's worth of OC even though at the most you're absorbing 250mg of that 1000mg (Once again, obviously less than 250mg cause of binders/fillers!)
When I did use Oxycodone (I'm in the UK so it was a rare treat!) it was OC80's made by NAPP as they have a license from Purdue to make and cause they're not big/popular here they're still the old pill form i.e. crush and sniff! And also OxyNorm instant liquid. Good stuff but once I found out the BA it was almost always taken orally, sometimes I'd take maybe 10-20% of the dosage intranasally when I felt the oral dose kicking in to help give it an extra kick and me what felt like a rush except once afterwards I tried plugging half my dosage and it seemed alright, but I prefer orally for Oxy' now.
It is also ideal if you want it to hit you faster and get you higher without having to go through the risk and frustration of IVing it.
pbuilder
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In my experience, percs and original OC on an empty stomach resulted in effects within as little as like 5 minutes. Within 30 minutes im flying near peak.
Let's face it, most people don't exactly enjoy the practice of rectal administration of drugs lol, and the high lasts a short period of time because as you said, yes it does hit you slightly faster.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
the difference in duration is probably no more than ~15 minutes shorter compared to orally
Oh I would never try plugging Percocets due to the Tylenol, but about one year ago I tried plugging Suboxone and that has been my daily ROA ever since, I just hope it's not doing too much damage to my rectum as the constipation is even worse than when taking it sublingually.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
There's nothing inherently wrong with plugging APAP, it is very poorly absorbed rectally so often youll find you don't have to CWE for most doses.
Plenty of people plug percs or norcos, but is it the optimal ROA for everyone? No.
Plenty of people plug percs or norcos, but is it the optimal ROA for everyone? No.
Coraline
Bluelight Crew
Anything you take orally can be used rectally. I think even prepared Tylenol would absorb well. They have Tylenol suppository for people. I don't think the powdered matrix would effect it much.