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[petn]

I apologize if i will be saying stupid or inappropriate things. I appreciate the opportunity to have a feedback here enormously, if i will ever deserve it.

It is my first experience ever with mind-altering substances and i will probably be taking 500 - 650 ug of LSD tonight.
I should say that I will be alone, have been mildly suicidal in the past, now just potently depressed. My body/mind is also in an uninterrupted stress-irritability state due to an OCD about my spine (kyphosis). I know the experience will likely turn for the worse, this is my responsibility though.

I'm undecided whether it will be better staying at home or going to a distant, deserted park. Mostly because i would hate to start getting wild, talking loud and/or screaming in my house. As i live in the center of a large city, everyone from at least a block of distance would hear me, and since they know me and that would be very bad. If you could tell me, please, if while on LSD you have ever experienced a state in which your ability to control yourself went missing to the point of, for example, being unable to control the impulse of screaming (due to panic or whatever) or even talking very loud, i would be grateful. Thank you.

 

[levir]

I can't give you an answer to the particular question you asked, as I have never myself tried LSD or been with anyone who took it.

However you are in for quite a ride, so don't get surprised when it happens. If you have a friend you trust, it could be a good idea to call him or her. Otherwise you should have some calm music available, and try to go with and accept what's happening rather than fighting it. Hopefully someone with a bit more experience will also comment soon.

 

[petn]

[...] Otherwise you should have some calm music available, and try to go with and accept what's happening rather than fighting it.

Thanks.

 

[<SpaceHead>]

Are you kidding? You're going to take a massive dose of LSD, without ever having tried any mind altering substance, going into the experience saying this "I know the experience will likely turn for the worse". Are you just aiming to traumatize yourself or what? I have never had fits of uncontrollable yelling of screaming on LSD but I've seen a couple people experience episodes of this, one was even smashing objects in the apartment and punching people, including me, in the face as hard as he could. These incidents where caused by taking large dosages in a bad state of mind, exactly what you are about to do to yourself. At the very least if you're going to take such a risk, please have a dose of a benzodiazepine on hand if you really need to cancel the trip.

My suggestion would be to take 200 mics instead, with this dosage you're much more likley to have a more pleasant and comprehensible experience. It would also be really useful to have someone who has tripped before hang out with you during your experience. Then maybe if you have a pleasant experience you can try a larger dose at a later date. And I do agree with this " Otherwise you should have some calm music available, and try to go with and accept what's happening rather than fighting it."

So please, spare yourself the trauma and take this advise into consideration.

 

[petn]

Are you kidding? You're going to take a massive dose of LSD, without ever having tried any mind altering substance, going into the experience saying this "I know the experience will likely turn for the worse". Are you just aiming to traumatize yourself or what? I have never had fits of uncontrollable yelling of screaming on LSD but I've seen a couple people experience episodes of this, one was even smashing objects in the apartment and punching people, including me, in the face as hard as he could. These incidents where caused by taking large dosages in a bad state of mind, exactly what you are about to do to yourself. At the very least if you're going to take such a risk, please have a dose of a benzodiazepine on hand if you really need to cancel the trip.

My suggestion would be to take 200 mics instead, with this dosage you're much more likley to have a more pleasant and comprehensible experience. It would also be really useful to have someone who has tripped before hang out with you during your experience. Then maybe if you have a pleasant experience you can try a larger dose at a later date. And I do agree with this " Otherwise you should have some calm music available, and try to go with and accept what's happening rather than fighting it."

So please, spare yourself the trauma and take this advise into consideration.

Thanks. I have no benzo, but had bought a (so called) bad trip stopper which contains valerian capsules and dextro tablets. I don't expect it to work though, if it will ever be opened.

It's getting dark, and i'm about to head to the park. If i will not be scared too much by the bare darkness during the trip, i will stay and take the full dose. Otherwise return back home and take 200 ug.

Thank both again! will probably report tomorrow on how it went.

 

[dezz]

You're taking such a dose of acid in a park? I'm not sure what I can say other then DON'T FUCKING DO IT. You sound like you don't have a clue what you're getting yourself into. Even half that dose is pretty strong and is able to make people go crazy. You're probably doing it anyway so I wish you good luck my friend...

 

[Clocktower]

I apologize if i will be saying stupid or inappropriate things.

Apology accepted. You are right to look for advice.

I appreciate the opportunity to have a feedback here enormously, if i will ever deserve it.

Everyone deserves to know the true properties of the substances they're taking.

It is my first experience ever with mind-altering substances and i will probably be taking 500 - 650 ug of LSD tonight.

This is far too much. If it's the first time you've ever taken any mind-altering substance, go with a dose of 100 ug. Even then you may bein for quite a ride.

I should say that I will be alone, have been mildly suicidal in the past, now just potently depressed. My body/mind is also in an uninterrupted stress-irritability state due to an OCD about my spine (kyphosis). I know the experience will likely turn for the worse, this is my responsibility though.

This is the point where people will start saying NO NO NO. Do not take any LSD unless you are capable of handling a new life experience with a positive attitude. The situation you are putting yourself in is precisely that from which most LSD horror stories arise. If you "have a feeling" that you'll have a bad experience, then you WILL. At the doses you're considering, LSD may make you more stressed, more compulsive, and more depressed.

If you really want to take responsibility for yourself, stick your LSD in the fridge and track down some pot or something. Cannabis is much more suitable for a first drug experience, and it may even do you some good. If you're really just a masochist trying to hurt yourself, I recommend you flush your LSD down the toilet, and see how that feels.

If you could tell me, please, if while on LSD you have ever experienced a state in which your ability to control yourself went missing to the point of, for example, being unable to control the impulse of screaming (due to panic or whatever) or even talking very loud, i would be grateful. Thank you.

Since you're not dosing because of your unfavorable mindset, it won't matter where you don't go to not do it. That said, I once had to restrain a close friend to keep her from screaming at the top of her lungs and kicking out the windows of a car, and she was having a GOOD trip. On 200ug.

LSD is not a toy, and being cavalier with it can get you into big trouble. Find another outlet.

EDIT: Aw, nuts. Guess I was too late.

 

[petn]

I was heading to the park, then the elastic band of my bike's rack got twisted inside the back wheel's gear and chain so tightly that i couldn't do anything. It's the first time of my life something like this happens, but anyway. So i got back home by feet (carrying the bike sigh), and i read the last two posts. I must admit you scared me a little. So right now i'm chewing a single 110 ug blotter (since 20 minutes, no effect yet).

I will, anyway, definitely take a 600 ug dose within the next month. I'm now happy not having taken it tonight, though. So thank you again! I'll just relax now.

 

[<SpaceHead>]

Wow that is a pretty convenient coincident! I'm not superstitious or anything but that seems like a clear sign that you weren't supposed to do it. Whew, man I was worried about you! You may have just avoided a traumatizing experience that may have taken years to get over! I'm sure you'll have a great trip on the one hit you did take though, I wish you a pleasant and productive experience!

 

[freedstar]

Why are you shooting for such an intense trip? Anybody would tell you that it's a reckless idea. It's baad news to the point where i'm not sure if your just trolling.

I've used psychedelics for years and a ~400ug + 2g mushrooms trip blew me the fuck away. I was gone. Thankfully I was prepared, safe and alone at my house. Wandering around the town/park/nature just was not an option I was even considering.

Take 100ug. Do it a few times in different places and in different ways and see how it goes. If my trips taught me anything it's that LSD is not for everybody.

 

[petn]

Thanks everybody really. Now i'm in a strange funny state (took 110ug of LSD 3 hours ago) that's enjoying. I didn't laugh so much since months, or years. It feels like I've fallen in a drunken-stupor state, not too much really, but from depressed as hell to this is not bad.

 

[Contained]

Glad you're feeling well! In my opinion it's always good to get a "feel" for a substance before diving in to the deeper ends. It lets you know what's there and makes future explorations less prone to anxiety IME. Anyway, I hope you thoroughly enjoy the remainder of your trip and if you can/ want to, write up a trip report in the TR subforum after you've had some time to digest the experience.

 

[atara]

Wandering around an unfamiliar place alone in the dark on a high dose of LSD with no psychedelic experience is stupid. It doesn't matter if you're the happiest person who ever lived. Stay at home. You won't need much more than your back yard. Go easy on the weed for at least the first few hours. It's much easier to control yourself tripping if you don't toke. Cigarettes, while horrible for you and never recommended, are pretty nice on acid.

Drink some coffee, play a video game, climb a tree. Try to appreciate life. It's what trips are for.

EDIT: I see you dosed. Good luck.

 

[coelophysis]

Wandering around an unfamiliar place alone in the dark on a high dose of LSD with no psychedelic experience is stupid. It doesn't matter if you're the happiest person who ever lived. Stay at home. You won't need much more than your back yard. Go easy on the weed for at least the first few hours. It's much easier to control yourself tripping if you don't toke. Cigarettes, while horrible for you and never recommended, are pretty nice on acid.

He stated that he's never taken anything before, and didn't mention weed.
& What is nice about a cig on acid? A cig on acid is the only time as a smoker that I feel like such a dumb ass for smoking a cigarette.

"Cigarettes, while never recommended, I'd like to recommend.." lol.

Drink some coffee, play a video game, climb a tree.

Really?

 

[petn]

Why are you shooting for such an intense trip? Anybody would tell you that it's a reckless idea. It's baad news to the point where i'm not sure if your just trolling.

Depression + anxiety + no escape can make up a sort of masochist attitude. Me personally, before dying i want my fears laid out in front of me. I have a fantasy of chaining myself up in a basement while on a full dose, just to meet with 'the devil' and pass the hours in torture and agony. Or I enjoy the idea of killing myself through harakiri just to feel the whole suffering, to say. For me suffering is all-encompassing, unestinguishable, and when to the limit - i'm sometimes at the limit - a sort of sadistic enjoyment for the grotesque arises (Cioran), in relation to myself. I don't know what else to say.

I've used psychedelics for years and a ~400ug + 2g mushrooms trip blew me the fuck away. I was gone. Thankfully I was prepared, safe and alone at my house. Wandering around the town/park/nature just was not an option I was even considering.

Once i get to the point where the flowing through the sense doors gets unrestrained and the center point dissolves, or whatever it's name, i'll probably stop right there with lsd as well any other drug. That experience coincides with a turning point on the maps of several meditative traditions, and I have been trying to get past it since 5 years ago by more orthodox means, but... So I learned that the said state can be induced by psychedelic drugs and wanted to try.

Thank you again, i'm glad now i've taken 110ug to begin with, for the better or the worse who knows. Next time it will probably be in a natural enviorment, daytime, on the full dose. It turned out that i'm a little girl when it gets dark...

 

[blazR]

Oh my, what a wonderful thread

I choose to be superstitious after reading how this situation turned out.

OP, what has changed since your experience? Anything for the better?

 

[*samsonite*]

Let me tell you from personal experience, do NOT drop that much in the beginning. And do not do it at a park. My first time was at a park. I took too much and ended up running from rabbits in the desert for hours. I was completely lost, and even tho I had gone with friends, we somehow separated and I was found wandering by a cliffside. Even if you are having a good trip, you are just asking to get picked up by cops by dropping that much in public. Especially with no experience. Or you could end up running around for hours like an idiot and get lost.

 

[petn]

Oh my, what a wonderful thread

I choose to be superstitious after reading how this situation turned out.

OP, what has changed since your experience? Anything for the better?

Nothing whatsoever.

Let me tell you from personal experience, do NOT drop that much in the beginning. And do not do it at a park. My first time was at a park. I took too much and ended up running from rabbits in the desert for hours. I was completely lost, and even tho I had gone with friends, we somehow separated and I was found wandering by a cliffside. Even if you are having a good trip, you are just asking to get picked up by cops by dropping that much in public. Especially with no experience. Or you could end up running around for hours like an idiot and get lost.

Hi, thank you... i was counting on staying exactly on a spot for a whole day. The problem is that staying outside for me might be less scary than at my house. I don't know why but my house full of objects, shadows, doors, reflections at night can be scary even while sober. I tend to imagine the girl of 'the ring' or something like it next to me, and this sort of stuff, since i was a kid. So I think I might be more at easy in an outside enviorment, fully equipped.

 

[webbykevin]

I think you would really enjoy psilocybin, have you done any research or reading about the mushroom experience ?

 

[huolesoh]

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/lsd/faq.htm#01