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my drug problem needs help i dont know what to do

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wishinihadoxy

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ok let me start by saying i just feel like killing myself and i could use some long term user advice on how to shake this habbit.. i am curently addicted to oxycodone. i need it to start my day and ill snort about 40 mg in the morning when i wake up then about 15 mg every hour or so ....ive been wanting to quit but cant! everytime i think im going to stop i cant. I CANT even get threw the first day i get so FUCKING ANXUS I START SWEATING AND YAWING LIKE CRAZZY then my mind starts racing and i start thinking of what i can sell or do to get money and i just feel that i will never be able to shake this drug ive been on oxy for about a year and for about 2 years prIOr i was stuck on 15 norco i day. i dont get my stuff from doc so its costing me so much i FEEL LIKE THE BIGGGEST PICE OF SHIT IF I CANT GET MONEY ILL STEAL IT FROM MY LOVING WIFE OR MY GRANDMOTHER WICH MAKES ME WANA KILL MY SELF ONCE I GET THE DRUGS AND HAVE CALMED DOWN ...luckly im in california and am a medical marijuana patient so i can smoke but they dosent help me the slightest bit even if i was to blow a oz a day still wont help .....
I FEEL LIKE IF I DO GET OFF I WILL NEVER FEEL GOOD AGAIN CUZ I ALWAYS HERE people saying once your off you will forever be diferent and everyday will be a stuggle to stay clean and i am so scARed to live my life like that ive tried taking xanax and bud to keep me content but dont work


I WAKE UP EVERYDAAY HOPING OUR ECONMY HAS COLLAPSED SO I CAN RUN THREW EVERY PHARMACY I SEE AND NOT BE BOTHER BY THE POLICE I FEEL LIKE IM JUST WAITING FOR A RIOT TO BREAK OUT SO I CAN BE THE FIRST IN THE PHARMACY ......I ACCTULY JUST HAD A DREAM OF THIS AND I WAS GOING THREW EVERY CVS AND RITE AID AND GRABBING THEM ALL

SO I am hopping someone who has been there before can help me please
 
i havent looked into any thing like that i dont have insurance so i dont know if id be able to get it where would i go to abtain those and have they worked for you guys?
 
suboxone is a god send. I can tell you when I tried it on my own I always failed, Suboxone doesn't just take cravings away it satisfys that urge to take a drug. Even though you won't get high off it, it .... I dunno makes your brain think its getting drugs.. its hard to explain but it works. I can tell you I was bad off my self and I got clean if I can do it anyone can. You don't have to stay on suboxone long either... you just use it to get past the WD (which is what makes you use) what you don't get is the bad feelings, the feeling like shit, the hating your self, the urge to use thats all drugs talking. Thats not you... right now your brain will do anything to make you keep using, it will hurt you, trick you, make you sick, try to kill you...

anyway point is even with no insurance I can tell you that suboxon is cheaper then a ox habit... best of all you can be taking 10 ox 40mg a day and go onto two suboxone a day (money wise) your saving cash, plus it heals your brain, and helps you get back to normal...

Either way best of luck
 
^from a doctor. You know if you are really stuck for money and do not want to give up, you can switch to something cheaper so at least you don't have to steal shit from your family. If the Doctor route is too expensive or just too difficult for now, switch yourself over to poppy seed tea or poppy pod tea, much cheaper, will keep you out of withdrawals for 24 hours at least and will satisfy your need for opiates. You can be high all day every day for ~100 a month. I'm guessing you are spending more than that in a day, so from a harm reduction standpoint, this would be a much better option.

I really don't recommend anyone do this unless they are going to use anyway and the cost of the habit is ruining your life.
 
i spend any were from 60 to 140 a day my grandmother just gave me her script of 90 dilaudid to help me for now but im still having alot of axeity i dont iv so ive been snorting them but i still want to get off of them i am now looking into suboxone but i still feel pretty fucked IS IT TRUE ONCE I AM DONE WITH OPIATES ILL NEVER FEEL GOOD AGAIN AND EVERY DAY WILL BE STRESSFUL THATS WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO I KNOW HAVE TOLD ME THATS WHAT IM MOST SCARED OF
 
wishinihadoxy said:
IS IT TRUE ONCE I AM DONE WITH OPIATES ILL NEVER FEEL GOOD AGAIN AND EVERY DAY WILL BE STRESSFUL THATS WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO I KNOW HAVE TOLD ME THATS WHAT IM MOST SCARED OF
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It will be a process and it will neither be easy nor short but it will be worth it. Your brain is now wired for opiates to feel happy. But consider the amount of unhappiness, anxiety and fear you are living with now because of the addiction. Even if what you have to go through is temporarily worse, the light at the end of the tunnel is that you could leave that behind and just work on ways to create meaning and peace for yourself inside. If you get off the drugs but you do nothing else to improve your wellbeing then you may be disappointed. One thing that might really help is getting connected with a group for support. Have you ever considered any kind of group therapy, AA, online groups like Smart recovery, etc?
 
Hey there, new around here but I've been where you are, recently too. I needed a minimum of 100mg of something just to stop withdrawl but usually a 300mg a day plus some black habit. I would detox and detox and detox, sometimes 1 day all the way up to 6 months but I couldn't shake the depression. 2 weeks before my wedding my wife caught me with a fresh script of oxy and gave me the ultimatum. Not wanting me to detox during the wedding I took my last pill during my reception and used my honeymoon to detox and relax in big bear California. Well needless to say I got back to Vegas and the cravings went back into overdrive so I searched around and found suboxone. Like everyone here says its a godsend. Knowing that I needed long term care I was on 2mg a day for about 6 months until I lost my insurance in a move and switched to methadone. I've been on 80mg of methadone for about 16 months and it's working great for me. It's a high enough dose to block anything if I wanna cheat but low enough that I'm not a zombie. Both medicines are amazing and I'm not gonna argue with anyone that says otherwise. The negatives to both are they themselves are very tough to kick when it comes time, but honestly it saved my marriage and probably my life. I'd rather spend that little bit of cash and stay at a normal level then continue to relapse, chase drugs and ruin every relationship I have. Obviously if you can use suboxone short term to taper and don't look back then more power to you, I'm just telling you my experience so you don't feel alone or like a failure. I'm 29 and married with 2 kids, a house car and job and I'm a methadone patient. There is hope.

P.s suboxone has a generic called subutex if you go that route try and get them to write it for that.
 
I'm having a problem with my drug problem ive been addicted to opiates before and just threw them away after a nasty overdose survival. I am a 21 year old female and have currently been on methamphetamines for 4 or 5 months now. I have the typical short fuze associated with the drug but I also eat and sleep, but not necessarily on a regular basis. I have never got that head spinning high that I crave and I mean NEVER not even once I just tweak on stupid shit and am very irriatable. I can't seem to put it down completely do would like help either quitting or getting the high I crave
 
i relly appreciate all the help all of you guys are giving me it has made me feel alot better about getting over my problem and has given me some hope so im going to try and get my hands on some suboxone and see how it goes for me but i wanted to say thank you to everyone for being here for me and for helping me with this horrible problem
 
The crazy thing about opiates is you start taking them and feel so happy and social and ready to take on the world but the next thing you know you're alone in your room counting your pills and planning your next run, wondering how you got there and feeling trapped and alone. Make sure you always reach out, no matter if you're up or down, on your first cycle or your hundredth. The power of drugs can bring any man or woman to their knees. If someone looks at you in judgement, remind yourself that the person doing the judging could be a simple accident away from that same path. Just keep your head up, what was a short walk there is a long road back, but a very possible one!
 
i have been in your shoes; i have empathy for you. your situation only gets better if you want it to, and it sounds like you do, but are you willing to put the drugs down? are you willing to do whatever it takes to get clean including putting down the MJ? will you go to any lengths to eliminate old habits to make way for new ones?

suboxone maintenance is a god send for me, but it is no miracle cure and definitely does not relieve me of my addict-like traits. it is expensive aswell, but luckily i have health insurance.
 
problem with ox is what you might at 200 bucks a day feel happy for two hours? The rest of the time is horrible painfull WD that makes you wana blow your brains out and that entire time all you can think of is DRUGGGGSSS....

Think of... I dunno be able to care, or love, or think again.... Right now I bet you do some ox just to get through family events or to feel emotion or to enjoy a movie... When the normal shit gets taken from you its time to quit... so quit...

Otherwise the rest of your life will be spent thinking of your next fix, its no way to live, its self destructive... suboxon is a awesome choice.. the WD is bad like others said but its cheaper and you can maintain a normal life on it
 
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Have you looked into ibogaine?
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Ibogaine is unnecessary at such (relatively) low tolerances. Its possible adverse effects would outweigh the potential benefit IMO. & assuming the poster is here in the US, ibogaine is schedule I; & for an actual ibogaine therapy session (rather than just taking it and going half-nuts in your basement for two days) you'd have to head to Mexico or maybe Canada- unless one knows a rouge US therapist who would oblige (sparse, if not extinct, these days for treatments like these) to be a trip sitter at the least and/or, assist w/ therapy during ibogaine intoxication.

Best option, as I explain below, is suboxone-therapy; www.suboxone.com is the best site. The other site everyone keeps referencing (the gov't SAMHSA site) is shit! Its outdated, or not updated often at best: for example, if I look up my area it doesn't have newly licensed doctors. And this is VERY important for an individual seeking to initiate treatment.. since a lot of doctors reach their patient limit or "cap" the longer they've been licensed... two out of the three doctors listed on the SAMHSA site in my immediate area aren't taking new patients; don't know about the third though. But (in my area, small town a few miles outside of a big city) if you go to suboxone.com, you'll see two more doctors who are BOTH taking new patients (Even though I've been seeing my doc for 6 years, i've had experience w/ this b/c I helped out a close friend who relapsed.. helped her w/ giving her some of my suboxone before she got into a doctor). Not to mention, you'll want to compare as many doctors as possible to find the cheapest possible doctor w/o insurance!
 
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villian said:
Suboxone treatment locator

You mentioned you don't have insurance so I feel obligated to mention treatment is not cheap. It runs about ~$300+ for a doctor visit and a month long script. If you find money to do oxy and smoke weed everyday however I'm sure you can figure something out.
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Not really. I pay $80 per visit, once a month, & have been seeing him for 6 years. It costs $180 for the assessment. it really depends on the doctor though. You really have to do your homework & research. Shop around for the best price, you'd be surprised as to how widely some vary. I take 1/2 an 8mg/day (total 15 pills a month; it costs more w/ the 2mg pills) and I currently pay ~$130 per script, would cost around $70 if I could get my doctor to Rx me "generic" Subutex.


TO THE Original Poster... as a previous longtime opiate & opioid user of all kinds, I recommend reading this whole post:

I also suggest suboxone; whether you prefer maintenance or a taper (taper is usually 6 months via outpatient; if its detox, then its anywhere from 2-10 days); Whether you do an outpatient taper or maintenance, while on it.. I guarantee you it will make you feel "normal" again, here's your first steps-
  1. www.suboxone.com ...THE BEST SITE. The SAMHSA websites others are referencing on this thread is way outdated.. if you're in a small area; its likely all the doctors listed in your area are "full" (they can only have a max of 100 patients) since it wont show newly licensed doctors[/I]
  2. type in your zip code
  3. you'll see a list of doctors; above that list, you'll see two tabs..
  4. click on the 'SAMSHA physicians' tab (you'll get more results)


After following the directions above to find local doctor's licensed to Rx buprenorphine, call all the doctors & ask the following:
  • Taking new patients?
  • Pricing for ASSESSMENT..
  • HOW LONG will it take before you can start the medication AFTER the assessment (these days, in my area most doctor's will put you on it right away, I had to wait 1 month back when I first got on it).
  • Costs for drug tests, if any (my doctor required me to go to a local UA testing center, where you end up paying ~$20 if you piss clean--over $60 if you piss dirty.)
  • Policy on relapsing, if you piss dirty (most doc's use UAs on a regular basis)
  • If Applicable: if you're on medicaid (since you have no insurance?) be sure to ask if they accept your type of medicaid (a lot don't for the appointment costs) AND if they allow you to use medicaid for your medication... yes, its fucked up; some doctors wont even let you use medicaid for your medication (they're probably getting fuckin kickbacks from reckitt-benckiser pharm reps, anyway..)
  • FINALLY, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT!

You'll find all this information out anyway when you go in to fill out all the paperwork at your first visit/appointment. But its still good to know ahead of time before choosing a doctor.. that way you can choose a doc that is the cheapest and/or who best suits your needs...

Your current tolerance shouldn't cost you too much per month w/ suboxone (especially if your doctor is willing to Rx you generic Subutex); I was on 20 mg fentanyl daily OR 1.5 bundles of dope per day. And I was started on 4 mg/day, ~$130 out of pocket w/ NO insurance. Although 4 mg was WAY too low for my tolerance (my doc had a "personal policy" of only prescribing 4mg.. wtf?? I felt like shit for a month; I probably should've been on methadone, but glad I stuck w/ it b/c now I don't have to worry about the bullshit w/ methadone therapy in this country; anyway.. I digress...). Your tolerance should warrant nothing higher than 4-8mg/day. Be wary of doctors wanting to put you on huge amounts, anything over 16mg/day is unneeded IMO (its usually a tactic to maintain you as a customer.... errr, i mean... patient... :!)

This is not a way to live! But, for what its worth.. it could be worse. benzodiazepine & barbiturate addiction, & subsequent withdrawal is absolutely traumatic.. fucking-traumatic (i'd rather go through acute heroin withdrawal than relive withdrawal from 1700mg/day of the barbiturate butalbital, its most commonly available in the the formula "Fioricet" & similar generics). I know its not of much solace to you... but it could be worse. And you could have a higher tolerance! So get help before you either A. up your tolerance to 300mg+ per day of oxycodone; B. move onto more potent opioids/opiates like heroin or start IV use; or C. worse yet, follow through on your feelings of suicidal ideation you've had/are having in response to your current situation. While transitioning to suboxone-therapy might be shitty for the first 1-2 days.. I guarantee you it will change your life for the better IF you're looking to just be "normal" again, that is. Suboxone isn't methadone, it isn't going to give you any negligible "buzz" or anything.. but it will, in a sense, "cure" you in that you'll feel like you're not on opiates (for the most part, still some opioidergic effects) without having to go through extended withdrawal or anything.

Start on calling around for suboxone-licensed doctors!

And please keep us updated! WHATEVER you decide to do...
 
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Holy fuck, $100 a day?

The sort of shit that drugs make us do, no wonder drug addicts do a lot of bad stuff to get a next hit.

I'm addicted to trams and luckily they are cheap to get. However, when I am out of them I have contemplated hitting the streets and going to the bad part of town to buy a bunch of them from homeless heroin users and the likes (something I would have never imagined I'd be doing, ever). That or paying an absurd amount from overseas pharmacies.

My heart goes out to those who find themselves not only addicted to a drug (like me) but having to support their habit doing things they feel ashamed of doing and would have never thought they'd be doing.
 
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