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Either of those 3 methods would probably work to a degree but the method using an oral syringe will likely be most effective. 30-50mg is a good starting point I reckon, never done it myself though. You are always better dosing conservatively imo, you can always take more but if you OD you can't take it back.
 
Hey thanks spacejunk! It's a tough one, the thought of it still lurks in my mind. I wont use meth again but the cravings are still intense sometimes. I wonder if I'll have them for the rest of my life.

smooch0 def go for the oral syringe. Dissolve about 30mg into a ml of water, suck it into an oral syringe, lube that thing up and get it as far into your arse as possible before plunging. If you don't get it past the sphincter the liquid can fall out and it wont work.

I don't imagine it'd be easy to just push a shard up there, too much chance it'd break or crumble on the journey up I'd think. I've never used a cap for plugging anything, but I have wrapped things in tally ho or one layer of toilet paper. That works but I find it a much lower intensity, drawn out high. An oral syringe full of liquid pep will hit you all at once with an awesome rush.

sssophieee welcome to BL! Pipes have been illegal for years now, I hadn't heard about them blocking importation but I imagine they'll still be around, just hidden under the counter as usual. It is dumb to ban them, like you said, it's not going to stop people using, and may even influence them to use other methods that are un healthy. The government isn't known for making sensible decisions when it comes to drugs though :\
 
Ice and self control... A match made in torturous co-dependent hell. Oh I don't know exactly when my best friend Crackolina invaded my mind, but she's one tough bitch to get out. Crackolina somehow always determines my level of self control, one way or another. When she leaves, I melt down, im cranky, i hate everything, i miss her, i love her, she's always on my mind. She comes back, we spend days together, life is awesome, but she's clingy. Obsessive of me, always at me to fill the pippa, she wont shut up. I try and be strong, give it another hour, but im lucky to last ten minutes before we meet again... Oh cracky boy... The pipe, the pipe is calling... So then she's fucked off again and the cycle lives on. Always on your mind, whether she's here or not. Over the years, I've managed to find a way to be happy and at ease with my own level of use and that's not saying I win... This shit has ripped my life apart, I let it, I fixed it, and I managed to keep it in my life too. Somehow. Yes it's a good weekend, crackolina and I are BFF's again, just had to rant about it. You know how it is.

As for this flaming shards and burning pipes with bubbling puddles nonsense... You must not stand by and allow this to happen!! All burned... Such a shame :(
 
sssophieee said:
the federal police are now stopping all importation of sweet puff pipes at the ports
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Im 99% sure that all substance-smoking paraphernalia (bongs, crackies,)are now prohibited to buy, sell or own. If you're caught with a sweet puff, its a ridiculous amount in fines. However, the substances themselves have also been illegal for years but we still get a hold of em! Don't stress too much, they'll find their way in ( I hope) or I'm off to do a glass blowing course.
 
anti-down said:
Im 99% sure that all substance-smoking paraphernalia (bongs, crackies,)are now prohibited to buy, sell or own. If you're caught with a sweet puff, its a ridiculous amount in fines. However, the substances themselves have also been illegal for years but we still get a hold of em! Don't stress too much, they'll find their way in ( I hope) or I'm off to do a glass blowing course.
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there is no paraphernalia fine or charge in australia YET although some states in america have it !! but it comes down to the same thing - how the fuck can they fine you for having a glass pipe and not fine someone who has fits on them ?!?!?! and how many things can be considered paraphernalia ?!?! could i get fined if im on the nod holding a square of tin foil ?!?! lol

when will it end - fucking madness government really needs to think about getting some input from australia's drug users and ask for their opinion on certain things (obviously in a mature way i dont mean us telling politicians that heroin should be legal)n because frankly not one politician has any idea or first hand experience with drug use and/or drug addicts which is why they come out with these totally irrational laws and fucked up policies which are 99% of the time doing more bad than good !?!?!?!
 
With the paraphernalia its the residue on it thats the problem not the device itself usually, so if there were trace amounts of H or any drug for that matter on the tinfoil or glass pipe, you can be charged.
 
sssophieee said:
there is no paraphernalia fine or charge in australia YET although some states in america have it !! but it comes down to the same thing - how the fuck can they fine you for having a glass pipe and not fine someone who has fits on them ?!?!?! and how many things can be considered paraphernalia ?!?! could i get fined if im on the nod holding a square of tin foil ?!?! lol
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I remember someone talking about fines for possession in Aus. I did a quick search and there are fines for possession in some states and territories.

Tasmania has adopted a different approach compared to other jurisdictions. Rather than prohibiting the sale, supply or display of drug paraphernalia, the Misuse of Drugs Act 2001 simply prohibits ‘possession’. Section 23 of the Act states that a person must not possess a utensil, appliance or other thing that is:

§ used or designed to be used in connection with the preparation, smoking, inhalation, administration or taking of a controlled drug or controlled plant; or

§ apparently intended, after some adjustment, addition or other modification, to be used in connection with the preparation, smoking, inhalation or taking of a controlled drug or controlled plant.

The penalty for a breach of this section is a fine not exceeding 50 penalty units ($6,500).
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Source. :\
 
footscrazy said:
I remember someone talking about fines for possession in Aus. I did a quick search and there are fines for possession in some states and territories.



Source. :\
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i still dont get how the fucking government thinks they can give you a fucking $6500 dollar fine for having a weed pipe and you cant get fined for having fits on you !!!
 
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and you cant get fined for having fits on you !!!
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that's not completely true. if your fits are contained within their packaging and/or sinbin (yellow container) then they have no means to fine you. on the other hand if you've opened fits unconfined, open and scattered around your car for example they have every right to fine you. you're putting other peoples health at risk if they're used and not contained.

that's my experience in qld anyway. i'm not sure of the laws within other states.
 
hey all, ive read everyone one of your replys back to me.

16, why do i sound young? because i mentioned the devil?
i have addictions, they do not effect my life in such a massive way as meth can, i made it clear to myself that i would not be making meth a habit and i would seek help if i saw it become a problem
i have no patters to my meth smoking, and i simple have too much to look forward to in my life, which i have worked bloody hard for, school has been a massive struggle due to lack of motivation, but i would think twice about leaving even if i had the option.
id consider myself having my "shit together" at this stage in my life. only a few friends know i puff sometimes, none from my school.
my mind no doubt does wonder, lots of the time, to meth, but addiction has no real definition.
thinking about shard every now and then is not addiction, as there are so many things that remind you of it,
but for ones life to be thrown into the bin over a chemical, i cannot fathom
 
but for ones life to be thrown into the bin over a chemical, i cannot fathom
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I can absolutely guarantee you that every addict said the exact same thing to themselves, felt the exact same way, at some stage. I'm not saying you'll become an addict or not, nobody can, I'm just saying that every addict started out where you are, right now. They were all casual users 'who just take it occasionally and don't see what the big deal is and would never throw their lives away for a chemical.'

Honestly, at this stage I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't take hard drugs unless you're ok with becoming addicted to them. Just seen so many people say 'hey I'll just try it for fun and use it occasionally' when it comes to meth and opiates, then end up totally sucked up in it, that it just seems deceptive to present it any other way.

It's like (and I fucking hate myself for using this analogy like all the asshole politicians and cops who argue for the drug war) russian roulette (sigh!). But I mean seriously, Russian Roulette, 1/6 chance of dying. I mean sure, it's only 1/6, if it was something trivial (like a small financial investment) you'd just say 'fuck it' and go right ahead. Even if you're the unlucky #6, you'll maybe lose a bit of spare change or whatever.

But addiction isn't trivial. It can cost thousands and thousands of dollars, it can cost your health, it can ruin lives and harm those around you and kill you, blah blah blah, you guys know the deal. Even if the odds of becoming addicted are 1/3 or 1/6 or 1/10, that's a lot to gamble. But so many people just sidestep that issue by pretending they're not putting it on the table. It's like saying 'ok, I'll place a bet, and if I lose I'll just walk away and not pay.' It doesn't work that way, there's no win/win, and like random chance, there's no way of predicting how prone to addiction you are. By the time you're there, it's too late. Like Geoffrey Rush said in that movie 'when you can stop, you don't want to. And when you want to stop, you can't.' That's it, you know. Wrong numbers come up, wrong cards get served, bam, you're a drug addict. Self control or morality or any of that has nothing to do with it. People just tell themselves it does because they're uninformed, or because they're intentionally deluding themselves so they can justify ignoring the risk.

Anyway, just as Russian Roulette would be absurd for anyone who isn't courting suicide, use of these kind of drugs is foolish for anyone who hasn't come to terms with addiction. You can't just write it off or ignore it. The odds are too high to not think about it and prepare for it and adjust for it. I'm not saying not to use stimulants or opiates or whatever, just make an informed decision and be prepared for the very possible outcome. Nobody is special or somehow immune to addiction. I know we all like to think we're different or unique somehow, but we aren't, and it's better to know that before you end up in the deep end.

Anyway, that's it, rant over :p Please pretend I never used the russian roulette analogy! It can be our little secret.
 
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sssophieee said:
[...] i was so shocked when i went to buy a glass pipe tonight from my normal shop when the shop attendant who i know from seeing him regularly told me that the federal police are now stopping all importation of sweet puff pipes at the ports ?[...]
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your local shady convenience store or tobacconist should have a sweet puff hidden away if you ask discretely (even tho they are illegal) - I get my gf to buy them because she looks innocent :)
 
I can never get them to sell me pipes :( Not sure why, something about my appearance must set off alarms. It's not like I look like a cop or whatever, and I get grilled when buying codeine so I can't look too innocent.
 
Sometimes I think looking innocent sets off more alarms than not. I look pretty straight laced and not like a drug user, and I've thought that's prevented me from getting pipes before.

Sometimes it just seems luck of the draw though.

I remember buying one once and this guy opened up his coat and had a whole row of crackies on the inside of it, I thought that was pretty awesome ;)
 
i think building a good rapport with your local pharamacists/shopkeepers really helps when it comes to certain things that have been mentioned above. i was really getting grilled there a few years ago until i cleaned up my act considerably with an attitude adjustment. treat others how you'd like to be treated and all that.

i was (still am somewhat) a clean cut looking guy and it helped me out until i let my habit slip and the whole nature of the game got to me. once i became honest with myself and those helping me out i received the help i needed so badly and am able to walk around with my head held high again.
 
Yoblack said:
hey all, ive read everyone one of your replys back to me.

16, why do i sound young? because i mentioned the devil?
i have addictions, they do not effect my life in such a massive way as meth can, i made it clear to myself that i would not be making meth a habit and i would seek help if i saw it become a problem
i have no patters to my meth smoking, and i simple have too much to look forward to in my life, which i have worked bloody hard for, school has been a massive struggle due to lack of motivation, but i would think twice about leaving even if i had the option.
id consider myself having my "shit together" at this stage in my life. only a few friends know i puff sometimes, none from my school.
my mind no doubt does wonder, lots of the time, to meth, but addiction has no real definition.
thinking about shard every now and then is not addiction, as there are so many things that remind you of it,
but for ones life to be thrown into the bin over a chemical, i cannot fathom
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only 3 years younger than man :p be careful with that meth man i had a hell of a problem at your age :)
 
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