Babies (and other commons on DMT)

[NilRadio]

I don't want to make this entirely about me, so I'll make my background brief. I'm a male, 24, and a father. My first drug experience was DMT, before even weed (I had drank occasionally but not a lot). So it was like jumping straight into the deep end of altered states. My first experience (via tinfoil and straw) was beautiful and left me with a lot of questions. I took the hit (what I could from it) and heard the fabric of the universe tear open. I saw a baby in a fetus. I was not expecting to see that so I got anxious. Then the baby looked as if in pain (which made me even more anxious) and it became translucent to where I could see the details of its skeletal structure. I had many other visions and interactions with other entities, but that was the first and most prominent. It was beautiful, but I certainly had some questions.

I tried again a few months later and I not only saw one baby, but a multitude. They came in like a tidal wave of despair, all crying and in rainbow colors. I did not try it again for about it nine months, because, till this day I can't be 100% sure that these are all the product of my consciousness, and I was afraid that I might be committing baby genocide in an alternate dimension.

Shortly after I had the benefit of going on a desert retreat with the likes of Graham Hancock, Pinchbeck, and Mitch Schultz (director of DMT the spirit molecule). Mitch was great to talk to about my experiences and afterwards I had built up enough confidence to try again. Like clockwork, I saw the baby again, this time sitting in the lotus position with his hand extending upwards with vibrations, like ripples, radiating from his head. It was a state of bliss in knowledge.

Since that time, I stumbled into a lot more of the substance by chance and also met a shaman who trained with the Vine of the Souls in Peru. I've tripped between 20-25 times since then and I now feel like this door is closing. But in a good way. I've seen many things, received beautiful insights and also terrifying nightmares. My tolerance is high and the already brief trips have been reduced to under five minutes. I am now looking towards other means of exploration but I feel it would be best to communicate what I learned and experienced smoking DMT with all of you.

I've searched the web and I see many common themes here. Please be polite when/if you reply to these as this is my first time sharing these with strangers. But I am curious if anyone else has experienced these. And hopefully it might help people that are having similar experiences. The ones I share are a female spirit, who I've communed with as much as the babies, and less frequently an intense male presence, like a pharaoh. It's also embarrassing to say.. but also the "grey alien" with huge ink black eyes has manifested to me as well. I've seen languages as symbols. Aztec patterns. Egyptian patterns. Sphynx demons. At one point I was on a "bad trip" and was raped by a demon like being while these hobo clown things watched and taunted me. But nothing was more common than babies, I always see babies.

(all hypothetical of course)

 

[webbykevin]

Wow, welcome to BlueLight.

Never had the babies, I have had the sound of a baby crying as an audio hallucination on Psilocybin but on DMT the entities are far more alien.

 

[lineartransform]

Let me guess - you're a new father?

I have a feeling the (entirely reasonable) stress of a child was projecting itself onto your early trips. And the later trip - now that you've demonstrated to yourself that you might actually pull this whole fatherhood thing off - the baby visions become calm and serene.

This is nothing more than a view into yourself, not a universal DMT experience.

 

[SONN]

the tidal wave of rainbow colors I can relate to, except they weren't crying babies they were just figures that kind of looked a little like the one in Edvard Munch's "the scream."

also I compared it to a freight train rather than a tidal wave

 

[zn13bt]

Babies kinda look like the "greys"...big foreheads, big eyes, developing brains seeking out new data. The end of 2001: A Space Odyssey ties it all together...it's all about the neoteny.

 

[NilRadio]

Let me guess - you're a new father?

I have a feeling the (entirely reasonable) stress of a child was projecting itself onto your early trips. And the later trip - now that you've demonstrated to yourself that you might actually pull this whole fatherhood thing off - the baby visions become calm and serene.

This is nothing more than a view into yourself, not a universal DMT experience.

My son was a little over a year old when I first did it. So yeah. Definitely the most reasonable explanation that I can come up with. I feel that it draws out the most raw pieces of reality to the forefront (sex, birth, death). The question is, if we have these spaces/dimensions/images within ourselves, what purpose do they serve? They are just so wildly specific and so convincingly external.

Wow, welcome to BlueLight.

Never had the babies, I have had the sound of a baby crying as an audio hallucination on Psilocybin but on DMT the entities are far more alien.

Thanks, glad to be part of the discussion.

 

[gymstud]

Just same as dreams really

 

[NilRadio]

Dreams seem to be more memory based. A lot of 'these things', most would agree, aren't based on anything seen previously. I understand that I've probably seen Egyptian symbols, babies and such in my past, but you would think that I would see things more closely tied to my experiences and culture (like in dreams). The other thread called "psychedelic being" (i think) has some good thoughts as well.

 

[NilRadio]

Well said. And this is why I was curious about the babies specifically, as my first inclination was that it might be a subconscious memory of my own prenatal self. It did feel oddly familiar. If this was the case, however, it would seem to be a much wider spread phenomenon, as every single one of us had gone through that stage. I'm sure I'm not the only father who has smoked DMT as well. But perhaps I am predisposed towards that. I also saw a vivid image of sadartha on my first trip (only a skinny version of Buddha) and at the time had no idea who it was. Only at a later time did i see a random image of the Buddha that was almost exactly reminiscent of my vision. It's embarrassing to admit, but I had always thought that Buddha was the just the fat guy. Personally, it would be more plausible to have conjured this by the self. I do my best to keep it real. But maybe we're just not sure what the self really is.

 

[NilRadio]

the tidal wave of rainbow colors I can relate to, except they weren't crying babies they were just figures that kind of looked a little like the one in Edvard Munch's "the scream."

also I compared it to a freight train rather than a tidal wave

^That's interesting though, both similar emotions.

 

[Ismene]

It's just the wonder and mystery of psychedelics. I think it will be a long, long time before science figures out how the brain interacts with these drugs and why it comes up with very personal but seemingly profound things.

I do tend to think you can get more into these kinds of images when you close your eyes tho. Have you tried going for a walk in nature during a trip instead? Should make a change from the babies!