Uncircumcised

[shimazu]

so how do you explain wisdom teeth, the appendix, and male nipples?

 

[rhun]

so how do you explain wisdom teeth, the appendix, and male nipples?

Is that question directed at me? I'm not a dentist, but I assume you need wisdom teeth like all your other teeth. But they don't grow in right for a lot of people so they have to be removed. And you can remove other teeth as well, you don't need them. But good luck having no teeth at all. As for the appendix, you may be technically fine with out it but I'd prefer to keep mine. It does have some purpose, if minor. And you'd be surprised how small and seemingly insignificant changes can affect homeostasis in your body. We still have a lot to learn about the human body. Plus Western medicine can be very limited and small minded in some aspects. Just my opinion though! A foreskin has an established purpose though.

Above I meant to said purpose, not person. Ooops.

 

[b4rd]

I interpret the saying "A penis is a penis", to

"If you can dick em down, the difference is obsolete."

 

[powdakilla]

A very strange thing about parents who get their kids cut, is the line 'it looks better'. Why would you care what your Babies' junk looks like?

 

[shimazu]

because you want your child to have the best life as possible?

 

[spacejunk]

^ exactly. it's a barbaric practice. do we debate female circumcision next?

if it ain't broke, don't fix it. wisdom teeth are removed with good reason, yes? parents that mutilate their boy's sex organs without medical reason...well, i don't see what that has to do with having "the best life possible".
decreased sensation might be a fair trade-off if you have premature ejaculation problems, but i've not had any less blow jobs than i would if my cock had been cut. and sex is far more than fine and dandy.

4. The only people who push for it to be banned are not actually circumcised or are women.

lousy reasoning. the only people who advocate it are guys with cut dicks. or religious types. i didn't realise it was such an issue until i read about men having foreskin restoration work done, and i realised that i am fortunate.

nobody here is saying it should be banned, just that cutting bits off children's penises without their consent is not really in line with the apparently enlightened, civilised world most of us would want to live in.
sure, religious zealotry and tradition have their place, but so does reason and a healthy attitude towards the human body. i mention this in reference to the "chewed piece of gum" comment.
i don't actually care what people do - but this idea that it is some kind of accepted norm is illogical to me.

i think a lot of men get their sons snipped because they are circumcised. i sure as hell wouldn't want to follow in that lineage with no rational reason (aesthetics don't cut it [no pun intended] IMO) especially if my daddy was a dickhead [no pun intended] that i wouldn't want to be reminded of, especially for sexual reasons.

sure, i'm biased because i'm intact. i refuse to use the word "uncircumcised". it's like saying someone is "unraped" or "unlobotomised".
yes, lobotomy was accepted practice once too, now generally regarded as a misguided, ignorant desecration.

NSFW:

 

[purplefirefly]

As for the appendix, you may be technically fine with out it but I'd prefer to keep mine. It does have some purpose, if minor. And you'd be surprised how small and seemingly insignificant changes can affect homeostasis in your body. We still have a lot to learn about the human body. Plus Western medicine can be very limited and small minded in some aspects. Just my opinion though! A foreskin has an established purpose though.

No one goes to their doctor and elects to have their appendix out for no reason. I had no choice but to have mine out when I couldn't eat, was in excruciating pain, and it was about to burst thus releasing toxins into my body. So when the doctor was like 'you need surgery NOW' I wasn't like 'meh, I think I'll keep my appendix, kthnx"

Evolution takes a long time to occur, it's not like one generation has a body party that's needed and then the next doesn't so it's phased out. It takes hundreds or thousands of years. So yes, I do believe that we can have irrelevant body parts that don't serve any critical function, or even minimal function, it's just that evolution hasn't completely caught up yet.

There are obviously parts that are required for function. I don't have definitive opinion on circumcision and whether or not it should be done to babies. I had my ears pireced at 8 months old or so and I don't have a problem with that. Your parents get to make all kinds of decisions for you that you have no say in, some have the capacity to determine what type of functioning adult you are. Where does it stop?

 

[shimazu]

well you know what dude they are fucking babies. They dont have a say yet.

Should they be able to pick what clothes they wear? Or what food they eat?

No, they cry and shit all over the place.

So if the parents want to have a small procedure (babies are constantly in and out of the hospital anyway) that will make the penis look like less Earthworm Jim then I dont see how that is "barbaric"

Being satisfied with your genitals is a good step towards self confidence and self confidence is the key to life anyway, not some procedure that you will never remember and will be glad your parents got for you when your dick is fully grown.

Babies die from vaccination complications as well, so that must be SO BARBARIC

 

[spacejunk]

babies risk losing their penis from the procedure. it is not unheard of.
what does it matter what a penis looks like? my penis looks great (says i and me ladyfriends).
vaccination is with good reason - not just for your own sake, but that of the rest of humanity. having a less sensitive, apparently better looking penis doesn't seem like a worthwhile risk.

well you know what dude they are fucking babies. They dont have a say yet.

Should they be able to pick what clothes they wear? Or what food they eat?

No, they cry and shit all over the place.

so you're ok with babies being sexually abused? emotionally abused?
you might not appreciate the emotional development that occurs in the first couple of years of life, but it is immense and stays with you for the rest of your days.
busty's claim that it doesn't hurt is frankly bullshit. not remembering pain in infanthood is not the same as not experiencing that pain. get a load of the NSFW pic in my above post.

i'm yet to see a single valid argument in favour of penis alteration, thus you guys keep returning to the "foreskins look weird" thing.
now, i don't think there's anything wrong with being guys snipped, but i think people ought to have the choice what they do with their own body. i'm not trying to make you defensive for being a harry helmet, but i'm not the one making silly comparisons to what certain kinda dicks look like.
not their parents. not their religious leaders.
now, you might say intact cocks look weird - maybe they do.
but you'll never know how much more sensitive they are - and that is your loss, and anyone you are responsible for having circumcised.

Being satisfied with your genitals is a good step towards self confidence and self confidence is the key to life anyway

i absolutely agree, which is why i think surgically removing part of a kid's penis is fucked in the head. each to their own, but i wouldn't want to encroach on another human's sexuality like that.

 

[shimazu]

Ok then let me sum up my argument in very easy to understand terms

- It looks weird
- Very low risk procedure
- How do you even compare peoples orgasms?

So you keep your Graboid looking penis and Ill keep my neatly trimmed penis

deal?

 

[-Kitten]

Wow that is fucked up the more I read this the more I get the " what the fuck " look on my face.
Most of you guys went to the STD or unclean part then but now most of you won't hold back on the " It looks wierd so that a valid reason "
Now if you are cut or not cut then whatever I really don't care but to cut your child just because you think it looks better... seriously? I never met a girl who won't have sex or won't give a blow job because the dick wasn't cute so no not circumcising your child won't affect it's future. I could care less for what a penis looks like since it's probably going to be inside me or in my mouth or something.

I choose not to cut my child because I don't want him to have the same sex issues as my Fiance does because of him being cut... and I think its a free world so anyone can do whatever they want but I think to do such things you should have a better reason then " its better looking"

 

[spacejunk]

@ shimazu - so, you've managed to make not one, but two comments about the weird look of a foreskin.
then you note the "low risk" procedure. low risk, maybe, but what is the risk really in benefit of? it's not risk free.

and i'm not talking about orgasms. i'm talking about sensitivity. sexual pleasure. my foreskin is extremely sensitive - thus i'm capable of experiencing sexual pleasure that a circumcised man is not.
the feeling of being stimulated on two layers of sensitive parts on top of one another (ie foreskin and glans) is not something you can really describe in words. i'll chalk that up as a win for me.

"neatly trimmed" penis? don't flatter yourself - what you've got there is a reduced member, used for centuries by religious and tribal folk (often at puberty, traditionally) to reduce the incidence of masturbation. yes, it is a rite of passage into manhood, but it is also to reduce sexual self-pleasure at a time in a young man's life that this may be a problem..

i'd like to think humanity has moved on from that kind of sexual fear/control mechanism. we have better ways of controlling our sexual experimentation nowadays (from private homes to effective contraception) so such drastic measures are - to me, at least - a brutalism we can happily leave in the past if we wish. obviously to some cultures this is a lot harder than in others.
i'll stick to my neatly trimmed pubes, thanks

anyway, i didn't want to see this into a for vs against debate on circumcision - my whole point for weighing in to this debate was to reassure the OP that what he has between his legs is normal, natural, and he should forget any sort of cut/uncut comparisons that he may make with other guys in his locale - and that he should enjoy his sexual anatomy because that is what it is there for.

who knows - maybe you'll find a girl who has only been with circumcised guys and is delighted at the response she gets from your sensitive intact penis! i've certainly had this response, and it can be pretty satisfying for both she and i.

fuck this "if it looks weird, you should get surgery" bullshit.

anyway, i think i've made the point i wanted to make, so i'm going to leave it at that. cheers!

 

[shimazu]

theres so many conflicting reports on how it affects sex I dont see how you could say it is better or worse

But our minds do like visually pleasing things, I mean look at fancy restaurants compared to Taco Bell

im not trying to argue either im just pointing out why people have it done

 

[Cohesion]

I'm looking forward to being with someone intact. It's never happened, and I find cutting to be a perversion of nature. Just sayin'.

I say let the man decide to get it cut when he's old enough to weigh it out and think about what he wants for his own sexuality. Informed consent, ya know.

 

[Busty St Clare]

Best thing about being a parent is you get to make them eat veggies, get vaccinated and remove their foreskin and there is nothing they can do about it.

 

[MikeOekiM]

I've been scarred for life ever since I had my circumcision.

 

[Busty St Clare]

I feel the same way after being forced to eat liver

 

[Volundr]

theres so many conflicting reports on how it affects sex I dont see how you could say it is better or worse

But our minds do like visually pleasing things, I mean look at fancy restaurants compared to Taco Bell

im not trying to argue either im just pointing out why people have it done

I think your viewing of cut dicks being more aesthetically pleasing is purely cultural. In Europe, the following countries have a circumcision rate of less than 20%: Iceland, United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Portugal, Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Slovakia, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Austria, Belarus, Cyprus, Georgia. So one would assume, that, in these countries a cut dick would be a far stranger sight and thus through human natures (as shown with your own thinking) 'different is inferior/weird/not right bla bla' then you would be less confident etc having a cut dick.

 

[MikeOekiM]

if my parents didnt get me circumcised i would be pretty pissed tbh

 

[Busty St Clare]

I think you're viewing of cut dicks being more aesthetically pleasing is purely cultural. In Europe, the following countries have a circumcision rate of less than 20%: Iceland, United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Portugal, Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Slovakia, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Austria, Belarus, Cyprus, Georgia. So one would assume, that, in these countries a cut dick would be a far stranger sight and thus through human natures (as shown with your own thinking) 'different is inferior/weird/not right bla bla' then you would be less confident etc having a cut dick.

I don't know, there aren't many girls out there with dyed pink dreadlocks but I can guarantee you I want to bang the shit of of every one of them