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Breaking the ice with a suspected H user

wmabeta

wmabeta

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I work with a girl, but don't really know her and we don't see each other at the job enough to even share more then one sentence per day and she leaves work before i do. There are a lot of drugs in my workplace but only one you don't talk about. obviously this one. anyway i'm sure we have similar interests but don't know how i can bring it up, and i don't get high at work so looking her in the eyes isn't gonna work.
any suggestions?
 
Say things like "Yo, DOPE shoes. Damn, we got SLAMMED today! Who is your favorite HEROINE in literature?" etc. while winking and nudging her vigorously. Foolproof.
 
BlessedAnomaly said:
Say things like "Yo, DOPE shoes. Damn, we got SLAMMED today! Who is your favorite HEROINE in literature?" etc. while winking and nudging her vigorously. Foolproof.
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i was leaning more towards bringing a kazoo to work and doing a cover of the velvet undergrounds Heroin all day long until she notices or someone beats me to death..but ill put your idea up for consideration
 
wmabeta said:
i was leaning more towards bringing a kazoo to work and doing a cover of the velvet undergrounds Heroin all day long until she notices or someone beats me to death..but ill put your idea up for consideration
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Heh but for real, it is sort of a tricky situation. If you are able to talk about other forms of opiates without the fear of stigma(most people don't bat an eye at someone talking about percs etc.), try that. Like "oh damn my back hurts, wish I had some vics or something." Most opiate users will kind of perk up at someone talking about em, that should give you some clue if she's down or not.
 
Ask her if your pupils look too small, or something, sort of like how stoners ask everybody if their eyes are red.
 
I'd sing some velvet underground to her in a casual way.. I really don't think that saying "DOPE shoes" or "are my eyes pinned?" is going to make her wanna hang out. she will notice that you use but it sounds pretty lame to me. At least I wouldn't want to use with somebody who'd be so blatantly obvious about it.
 
max_ said:
I'd sing some velvet underground to her in a casual way.. I really don't think that saying "DOPE shoes" or "are my eyes pinned?" is going to make her wanna hang out. she will notice that you use but it sounds pretty lame to me. At least I wouldn't want to use with somebody who'd be so blatantly obvious about it.
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Yeah dude the dope shoes thing was a joke.
 
I just wouldn't want to break the ice with any suspected user, as I could never be sure what kind of user they are. In other words, are they still in the care-free, anything-goes, it's-all-still-fun-and-games stage of their use, or are they in the, oh-shit, I-deeply-regret-getting-into-dope, I-want-to-clean-up-my-act-but-can't stage?

If it's the first, then everything's cool, but if it's the later, then you can expect that suspected user to burst out into tears, and I'd hate for that to happen.
 
yea mention other opiates. At my old job I mentioned I was tired from doing oxy and my co workers eyes lit up and we were drug buddies ever since.
 
verso said:
I just wouldn't want to break the ice with any suspected user, as I could never be sure what kind of user they are. In other words, are they still in the care-free, anything-goes, it's-all-still-fun-and-games stage of their use, or are they in the, oh-shit, I-deeply-regret-getting-into-dope, I-want-to-clean-up-my-act-but-can't stage?

If it's the first, then everything's cool, but if it's the later, then you can expect that suspected user to burst out into tears, and I'd hate for that to happen.
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Whoa, I think that's a bit much. If they would burst into tears over someone mentioning Heroin to them, I don't think they'd be stable enough to even hold a job. It's a bit hyperbolic to say the least. This is not a personal attack on you, merely an opinion. EDIT: Unless I missed the sarcasm. I'm bad at catching sarcasm when I'm super high. :(

@ OP, if you barely see her, it's gonna be a little weird to just mention opiates in passing. It's doable though. Maybe get a Bluelight pin (do those exist? haha) and wear it. Or like maybe a Velvet Underground pin or something, if it's that type of place. Do you work in a restaurant or something? Because you mention drugs being common in the work place. I dunno, it's worth a shot, you have about 5 sentences a week to make it work. ;)
 
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Yeah, if you got an iPod still, blast 'I'm Waiting For My Man'. That should say it all.

If she's got blue eyes your in luck, "ain't no giveaway like the blue eyed curse!".

I would not mention hydrocodone or percocet. These are obviously opiates, but to a heroin addict, the OP would probably come across as some party kid who takes pills here and there, ignorant to the fact that heroin and hydrocodone are even in the same family of drugs.

I'd do subtle things, scratch your neck/knees, if you're an IV user, do things like press on different veins in your arm. (ones that normal citizens wouldn't consider being used).
 
Maybe don't do this at all at this stage? If you don't share more than a sentence with each other, perhaps jumping straight into conversation about hard drug use is a bit too personal.

How about just trying to make friends with her first? Probably a bit more appropriate. Just because you may have heroin use in common, doesn't mean you two will click on any other level. I'd suss that out before divulging or trying to draw any personal information from her.
 
Rabidrabbit said:
Whoa, I think that's a bit much. If they would burst into tears over someone mentioning Heroin to them, I don't think they'd be stable enough to even hold a job. It's a bit hyperbolic to say the least. This is not a personal attack on you, merely an opinion. EDIT: Unless I missed the sarcasm. I'm bad at catching sarcasm when I'm super high. :(

@ OP, if you barely see her, it's gonna be a little weird to just mention opiates in passing. It's doable though. Maybe get a Bluelight pin (do those exist? haha) and wear it. Or like maybe a Velvet Underground pin or something, if it's that type of place. Do you work in a restaurant or something? Because you mention drugs being common in the work place. I dunno, it's worth a shot, you have about 5 sentences a week to make it work. ;)
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I was exaggerating, but in all seriousness, an addict who is trying to get clean and failing miserably at it might not appreciate your calling them out on being high.

But what do I know?
 
verso said:
I was exaggerating, but in all seriousness, an addict who is trying to get clean and failing miserably at it might not appreciate your calling them out on being high.

But what do I know?
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No, dude I totally agree with you, it's obviously not good to be calling out a recovering addict on being high... but why do they have to cry? They could slap OP in the face, throw a drink at them, make an anvil fall atop their head, go on a rant, tell them to fuck off, OP could be totally WRONG ad just seeing what he wants to see, etc etc etc... just so many other possibilities. ;)
 
I find that drug users are like gay people, they give off a subtle or not so subtle vibe. Not always obvious to a lot of straight(non-drug using) people, but having done them know the signs. Junkie do seem to have a certain way of talking and acting, like the look on their face or the way they talk(not even drug related or nodding off), as do tweakers. Sometimes I have my suspicions with people you'd never think, often in positions of authority. A lot of people on television too.

The main question is would she snitch on you? She might not be a junkie or even a pillhead. Could be a pain patient, real or imagined, or a pillhead. They have this belief of superiority over H users. Could be an ex-user of H or pills. Could just be the way she acts sober. Shit even if she does H she might try to cover her ass. Sadly snitching is all too common in the drug world:(.

If safe, I'd first get to know her besides drug shit. Once you have a rapport, I'd start with mentioning things like weed, maybe shrooms or xtc if it seems in her personality, then opiate pills. They're more socially accepted, though a lot view psychedelics as bad. A lot of people view heroin as the worst shit out there. Maybe mention something weak like vicodin, codeine syrup or percocet? With codeine you could use the excuse that you listen to chopped and screwed music if you're into rap and aren't serious.

Or if it's like your personality, make jokes about drugs. Maybe say jokes like, "Damn my back is hurting so bad, I need some fucking heroin," "This job sucks! I need some oxy to pass the time," or something like that.

Maybe mention references to drugs in pop culture, like Kurt Cobain or the song "Hotel California"? Maybe use obscure slang that only a user would know?

For me this shit wouldn't be too weird, for I use the Hunter S. Thompsom technique of acting weird all the time so it's hard to tell=D. People think I'm high when I'm sober and sober when I'm high.

Gauge her reaction.If positive, then gradually mention heroin.

BTW, why do you want to know if she does H? Better yet why would you want her to know? Just camaraderie at work, curiosity, a friend to get high with, to get new connects, or do you want to bang her<3? Is she hot;)?
 
Mel22 said:
Maybe don't do this at all at this stage? If you don't share more than a sentence with each other, perhaps jumping straight into conversation about hard drug use is a bit too personal.

How about just trying to make friends with her first? Probably a bit more appropriate. Just because you may have heroin use in common, doesn't mean you two will click on any other level. I'd suss that out before divulging or trying to draw any personal information from her.
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best answer yet, this is what i was going for, just curious as to what others might suggest
 
just talk about a celebrity whos going to rehab

"yeah she looks all fucked up on heroin: list all the signs of heroin use after this"

that should get the ball rolling. Definitely dont start with saying you do drugs because if she doesnt than youll probably creep her out.

Like dont go up and be like "man I could go for a nice bag of heroin right now"

Id think you were a cop tbh
 
THC2LSD said:
BTW, why do you want to know if she does H? Better yet why would you want her to know? Just camaraderie at work, curiosity, a friend to get high with, to get new connects, or do you want to bang her<3? Is she hot;)?
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i already know she does, just not from her telling me, and to the last question, yes to all of the above
 
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