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Opioids haven't been sick in years

mrflowers00

mrflowers00

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i've been using opiate/opioid medication for about 10 years and have only been sick about 2 or 3 times in that period has anyone else had the same experience cause me and my dad have and are curious to find out if others have as well
 
I very, very rarely get sick anymore and ive been on opiates/opiods for about 5 years. Not sure whether it is connected in anyway but since you mentioned it ive noticed that I dont get sick ever really. I have noticed that opiates make me feel a lot better when im sick so maybe your body has been sick but you just havent noticed it because the opiates mask the symptoms, this is especially possible if you smoke.

I have noticed meth users/addicts get sick a lot, even if they arent smoking the shit so maybe it does have something to do with the ope's.
 
Opioids are actually bad for your immune system (just one of many sources here). But they can alleviate/mask a lot of the symptoms of common infections/viruses, so you may not notice when you are sick. People who use opioids might not get out as much anymore either, giving them less exposure to viruses.
 
I don't know about anyone else but if I've been taking opiates for a pretty regular amount of time and I stop taking them I am guaranteed to have the flu for the next 3-5 days or so. It's always spot on. Weird huh?
 
Swimmingdancer said:
Opioids are actually bad for your immune system (just one of many sources here). But they can alleviate/mask a lot of the symptoms of common infections/viruses, so you may not notice when you are sick. People who use opioids might not get out as much anymore either, giving them less exposure to viruses.
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This. Last time I was sick I just dosed codeine every 6 hours for a week and didn't feel anything. It's good to have antibiotics lying around tho, 1 broad spectrum and 1 beta lactam.
 
Mass08 said:
I don't know about anyone else but if I've been taking opiates for a pretty regular amount of time and I stop taking them I am guaranteed to have the flu for the next 3-5 days or so. It's always spot on. Weird huh?
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Mass,
I like you, you are TOO funny!
I've been on opiates (strong ones) for awhile. I feel great....when I have them. When I DON'T have them is when I get ill.
OP, I have a feeling this is not the exact kind of response you're looking for. I'm sure even more will chime in :)
 
aside from dopesick, I was never sick when using opiates. I suspect tho that was because I had a physical job and came into contact with craploads of bacteria in wastewater on a regular basis. I ate well and took decent care of myself. Even once saw the plant dog drink raw wastewater that had collected into a little algae filled pool and he didnt get sick.

Just a pet theory of mine, but istm that those who use opiates dont have nearly the problems that speed/amp/coke users have. My theory is that since opiates slow the body, it doesnt burn it out like 'speed' type drugs do. Imagine how long your car would last if you drove it 45mph vs 145mph - it would last a lot longer at the lower speed. I think the same effect may apply to people and drugs, tho I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

Things like Hep C from IV drug use are not an opiate only problem, tho illnesses like that cannot be discounted when it comes to collecting info on illnesses. I am saying tho that if one had an infinite supply of unadulterated drug of choice and clean methods of administration, all other things being equal (diet, exercise, etc), that users of speed drugs would experience more illness and shorter life spans than those who use drugs that slow the body down.
 
Kid Amine said:
Just a pet theory of mine, but istm that those who use opiates dont have nearly the problems that speed/amp/coke users have. My theory is that since opiates slow the body, it doesnt burn it out like 'speed' type drugs do. Imagine how long your car would last if you drove it 45mph vs 145mph - it would last a lot longer at the lower speed. I think the same effect may apply to people and drugs, tho I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.
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Cars aren't exactly human analogs. I would bet that either symptoms are masked or that symptoms are more commonly associated to withdrawal or other opiate use symptoms.
 
Swimmingdancer said:
Opioids are actually bad for your immune system (just one of many sources here). But they can alleviate/mask a lot of the symptoms of common infections/viruses, so you may not notice when you are sick. People who use opioids might not get out as much anymore either, giving them less exposure to viruses.
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Just because you feel good from being high and can't notice if you're sick or not, doesn't mean your health is improved over that of non opiate users.
 
dopiate said:
Cars aren't exactly human analogs. I would bet that either symptoms are masked or that symptoms are more commonly associated to withdrawal or other opiate use symptoms.
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You didn't understand what he said, he said something very interesting. He said that since opioids slow metabolism, and amphetamines accelerate it, one may burn itself out faster on amphetamines. I like his expression because it's the case, the human body breaths in oxygen, eats hydrocarbons and breaths out carbon dioxide and water, and its temperature is above surroundings. That's the definition of a fire. What he sais is on opioids, the flame is blue and small, and on amphetamines the flame is bright and big.

My opinion is that things are more complicated lol. Opioids are worst drugs than amphetamines in my opinion. I am a chemist dosing stuff at +-1mg and I feel that whatever I do I can't control opioids...a same dose can feel huge and sometimes I don't feel it at all. It's very bizzare and unpredictable. With amphetamines like d-amphetamine, the drug is so predictable that the same dose in mg felt the same over a period of 5 years and never failed. A drug must be predictable, so that you can control it.
 
When you consider that withdrawal occurs to most everyone for some length of time during their use of opiates and tachycardia (rapid heart beat) usually occurs I doubt that the theory of slower being healthier holds true. Consider this with the fact the opiates always cause respiratory depression to at least some degree and I think they can be considered very taxing on the body over time as well.

I suppose it's most important to just realize that both classes of drugs carry significant health risks, and frankly I don't think it's true to potray opiates as being a safer option.
 
opiates are certainly not a miracle-drug-one-size-fits-all-ultimate-cure-thing. My guess is the OP is just plain high and happy about it.
 
Opiates do slow the metabolism, and you are not the first to think of this...

Kid Amine said:
aside from dopesick, I was never sick when using opiates. I suspect tho that was because I had a physical job and came into contact with craploads of bacteria in wastewater on a regular basis. I ate well and took decent care of myself. Even once saw the plant dog drink raw wastewater that had collected into a little algae filled pool and he didnt get sick.

Just a pet theory of mine, but istm that those who use opiates dont have nearly the problems that speed/amp/coke users have. My theory is that since opiates slow the body, it doesnt burn it out like 'speed' type drugs do. Imagine how long your car would last if you drove it 45mph vs 145mph - it would last a lot longer at the lower speed. I think the same effect may apply to people and drugs, tho I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.
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But do you think if it was true, would we (the general public) ever get access to the proof? I think not. If one is able to navigate the treacherous waters of the open opiate ocean, and make it out alive, one might have a somewhat more youthful appearance than if they treaded down the icy slopes of cocaine canyon or the the malicious methamphetamine maze...
 
Sorry if I'm being brash but I just don't see alliteration as a useful way to advocate that one class of drug might be more safe than another when it's simply not the case. I don't think it's some grand conspiracy either, and I'm sure people who have been down the path of opiate addiction would agree with me.
 
bronson said:
Sorry if I'm being brash but I just don't see alliteration as a useful way to advocate that one class of drug might be more safe than another when it's simply not the case. I don't think it's some grand conspiracy either, and I'm sure people who have been down the path of opiate addiction would agree with me.
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Yes but becoming addicted to a drug that makes you excited can be considered safer than becoming addicted to a drug that stops your breathing.
 
A sage by the name of Keith Richards once said; "Say what you will about the poppy, but i havent had a cold in years."
 
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