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pzoxic

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So last night I decided to end my t-break at 4 months+. I figured that would be enough time for my tolerance to lower and surely long enough for me to trip balls. Apparently not. I dropped some tested mdxx with a few friends and I barely felt a thing. My other two buddies were rolling their balls off and all I felt was a slight body high. None of that euphoria or lovely head high. We smoked about 15 minutes after dropping and they were peaking like an hour later. What gives? I was almost positive that my 4 month break would be long enough. The only reason I was on this break anyways was because the last time I dropped, I didn't roll either. Could I have lost the magic forever? :(
 
Last weekend I had 2mg split throughout a few hours + some beers at a party. Other than the Piracetam regimen I'm on, no other medications.
 
Poor guy, just like me, i'd say! Took a shitload of M1 with zero effects, same goes for 4-FA and i'm a non-regular user of substances like this. I'm taking no medication and i just don't know what's going on?
 
THCified said:
Poor guy, just like me, i'd say! Took a shitload of M1 with zero effects, same goes for 4-FA and i'm a non-regular user of substances like this. I'm taking no medication and i just don't know what's going on?
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Ya know I took quite a large dose of 4-FA a few months back that actually worked quite well. However to this day I can no longer roll beyond a slight body tingle for a few minutes. 4-FA releases quite a large amount of serotonin, I wouldn't be surprised if that is the culprit in both of our cases. How much 4-Fa did you take?
 
Some peeps have reported piracetam to diminish the effects, so try without next time
 
dezz said:
Some peeps have reported piracetam to diminish the effects, so try without next time
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Yeah I have heard the same thing. Piracetam can be used for potentiating MDMA slightly if taken several days before the roll. However many people report that if you take piracetam only a few hours before the trip or during the trip that it can actually have the reverse effect.
 
I'm around 5'7, 5'8,130lbs. I used to be able to roll off of only 100mg tested but then I eventually upped it to 150mg because 100 wasn't cutting it anymore. Eventually I just stopped feeling it at all, no matter the dose I still wouldn't have that "magic" so I decided to take that break.
 
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Ya know I took quite a large dose of 4-FA a few months back that actually worked quite well. However to this day I can no longer roll beyond a slight body tingle for a few minutes. 4-FA releases quite a large amount of serotonin, I wouldn't be surprised if that is the culprit in both of our cases. How much 4-Fa did you take?
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170mgs in total, intranasal. No effects, like i said, except the hellish burn :sus:
 
Still need an answer. I think I may try again with a higher does in 2 weeks. If I still can't roll I guess I really have lost the magic. :(
 
Take a longer break. Doing it again in 2 weeks isnt going to help. Whether you "felt" it or not your brain still produced more serotonin when you took it.

Wait 6 months. Eat well. Pre and post load. I usually drink ONE beer before I drop and this helps to kick start my roll.
 
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Alcohol definately reduces my roll no matter the amount drank, so that's not an option. I know 2 weeks isn't much time, but there's a music festival I wanna go to. If it doesn't work out again, then I guess my time with MDxx is done for now at least.
 
Did you eat beforehand? Full stomach might be the culprit.. Or you need a higher dose now.
As long as you didnt experience a comedown either.

I hope you can roll again. Setting is also key
 
Nope, didn't eat anything. No comedown the next morning either, felt fine. Maybe my serotonin tank is just empty? :(
 
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Yes I am, at least once a day, if not more. On the slight occasion I do miss out on my daily THC diet, it's usually just one day :o. I seriously doubt that being the problem though.
 
iv also going through the same problem as you pzoxic. i feel the effects slightly but no magic to it. by THC you mean weed right? i smoke weed on a daily basis and iv been hearing that weed can slow down the production of serotonin. maybe try not to smoke so much weed in that case.

MDMA is a crazy drug that loses its "magic" much faster than ANY other drug. aka your tolerance is going up dude. you will probably need a higher dose. i have only rolled about 20 times over a 7 year period an i have just started to lose the magic as well. i will need a 4 month break. eat healthy and exercise more. take all kinds of supplements. try not to do a lot of opiates or smoke a lot of weed. then when the time comes i will be double dropping some strong beans. if i cant roll after all that im giving it up for a whole year at least.
 
Then let me ask you for how long?

I believe that's our problem. THC works on serotonin, not that much that one normally has to bother with this fact when planning to take some MDMA/bk-MDMA or whatever substance working on it's receports, BUT i assume it DOES play a role in regular thc-consuments. Why? Because i think we have a somewhat altered brain chemistry, at least regarding serotonin-levels.

I haven't taken any uppers for years until some months ago, at first 4-FA. Guess what? I didn't worked. I started with 50mgs and dosed-up to at least 200mgs in following trials - nothing. Same goes for M1. There were two substances that gave me euphoria, at least a bit, MPA and Ethylphenidate, and i think they both work mainly on dopamine-receptors, hence the tiny bit of euphoria.

Anybody stop me if i'm totally bullshitting here, but i really think it has something to do with consuming thc on a regular basis.

Man, i'm almost tempted to totally stop for at least 6-8 weeks and face-dip some fucking Methylone!
 
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yeah iv been consuming large amounts of opiates an weed in between rolls everytime.

but yeah i think your on to something here THC. i think the weed has something to do with it(slowing serotonin production).

and the opiates are probably not helping my dopamine levels either.
 
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