LSD - Question

[Hear Me Roar]

Right basically, I obtained 1 blotter, which was supposedly meant to be 100ug(Normally quite reliable with doses. The person who I obtained it off, regularly has his supply checked at an independent lab) but as we all know, it could not be and probably isn't by what I'm going to write, the actual dose.

I've done LSD before, know what to expect etc...

Anyway, I took the tab about 3 an half hours ago, an all feel is a bit of a headache and slight slight slight ever so slight, 'trip'. As in, almost something is there, but its not.
I've been for a walk to see if I can get things flowing, tried music but nothing. The headache is what's annoying me. Not a full blown, let's take some pain meds headache, just a dull, urgh kinda headache. Update - For clarity, please could someone explain the headache situation to me from experience or knowledge they have.

My guess is, it's a bum trip. It tasted very chemically. Maybe for once, my source just didn't get good shit, I dunno.

I suppose I've already answered my own question, but other people have had some from the same batch and seem happy with it. Any suggestions?

Maybe i'm just not mentally in the mood for it. I mean, I suppose I feel a bit more open to discuss things as you would expect. But still, nothing really.

 

[Psychonauticunt]

Right basically, I obtained 1 blotter, which was supposedly meant to be 100ug(Normally quite reliable with doses. The person who I obtained it off, regularly has his supply checked at an independent lab) but as we all know, it could not be and probably isn't by what I'm going to write, the actual dose.

I've done LSD before, know what to expect etc...

Anyway, I took the tab about 3 an half hours ago, an all feel is a bit of a headache and slight slight slight ever so slight, 'trip'. As in, almost something is there, but its not.
I've been for a walk to see if I can get things flowing, tried music but nothing. The headache is what's annoying me. Not a full blown, let's take some pain meds headache, just a dull, urgh kinda headache.

My guess is, it's a bum trip. It tasted very chemically. Maybe for once, my source just didn't get good shit, I dunno.

I suppose I've already answered my own question, but other people have had some from the same batch and seem happy with it. Any suggestions?

Maybe i'm just not mentally in the mood for it. I mean, I suppose I feel a bit more open to discuss things as you would expect. But still, nothing really.

I see two possibilities:

1) Low-dose acid.

2) It is not LSD, but instead, some other compound active in the < 2mg range, such as a DOx or maybe Bromo-DragonFLY.


A strongly chemical taste is usually a good indicator of it being option #2. Another is a long onset of 2-3 hours. Did your ever-so-slight trip just begin at around 2-3 hours, or was it already apparent that... very little was happening from around one hour?

 

[effie]

Going to send this over to psychedelic drugs as they cover LSD queries

BDD > PD

 

[Hear Me Roar]

Did your ever-so-slight trip just begin at around 2-3 hours

Was exactly this. An hour had passed and I was loosing hope that it was dud altogether. It was at the 2hour mark, I knew there was something there, It just really wasn't anything, its still the same now(5 1/2 hours on). I can feel something, its just so very subtle and the headache I've got just ruins it.

I can feel something in my system, i know that for certain.

 

[Anon0631]

The chemical taste and long come-up point to DOx. You might be wasted in another hour.

 

[Hear Me Roar]

I took it at 1pm, so doubtful if anything was going to happen, it would of showed itself by now.
I guess I'l just have to have a talk to my source, see what the deal is his end.

I'm pretty sure it was LSD and not some other chemical and I'm thinking it was just a weak dose to which the only point I really felt anything specific, was at the peak. But I dunno.

I'm going to drink some coffee, apparently it helps with the headaches.

 

[Lost Ego]

LSD is odorless and colorless, there should have been no taste if it was acid. Sorry about the headache man

 

[Psychonauticunt]

LSD is odorless and colorless, there should have been no taste if it was acid. Sorry about the headache man

Occasionally the blotter itself may taste lightly of something, but if there is a strong, persisting, bitter taste, you've definitely got something other than LSD. Also, I think it's pretty safe to say that if you feel the first effects after 2 hours, it isn't LSD.

It may be damn near impossible to subjectively assess which chemical you're dealing with - unless you've tried them before with certainty as to which compound you are ingesting. I would agree with Anon0631, though, that it would seem to be DOx.

At least DOB, DOC and DOI are all active in the 1-3mg range so an active dose fits onto a blotter, and they all share a long come-up of 2-3 hours, and a total duration exceeding 24 hours. I personally don't care much for them; I've eaten a few accidentally like yourself, as they're usually sold as "acid".

 

[Hear Me Roar]

It was bitter and chemically, that I was like, bleugh. Almost like it had a tiny bit of APAP on it.

The come up was around 2-3hours, not that I felt much apart from a tiny weeny bit of confusion, which I considered as being a slight trip. I could feel I had ingested something and I was trying to get the trip to start, but nothing. The only upside, has been my gf has noticed, that I was more sexual aroused than normal 8) so guess my money wasn't entirely wasted aha.

I still feel it ever so slightly now, its weird.

But I agree, looking at everything, I'm going to agree, it probably wasn't LSD.

 

[Solipsis]

We do not allow ID threads, so can you explain where you are going with this other than to try and find out the question nobody can answer without analysis equipment? Thanks!

 

[Hear Me Roar]

We do not allow ID threads, so can you explain where you are going with this other than to try and find out the question nobody can answer without analysis equipment? Thanks!

This isn't an ID thread. If you read what I put to start with. I didn't suggest it was anything other than LSD I had ingested. I simply wanted to know, from others experiences and knowledge, why I didn't feel any noticeable effects. I started it in the BDD, as not to add another, 'LSD' thread to the PD, but it was moved here by another moderator.

OTHERS suggested it might have been something other than LSD, until OTHERS suggested it might have been something else, I never gave it a second thought. Which lead onto the discussion which followed. Quite frankly, I have found it useful and insightful.

At what point have I asked anyone to give me insight into what the substance I've taken, could be. If anything, I've stayed with the mindset that It is LSD and want to know why it effected me in the way it did. I've merely stated in my later posts, going off others knowlege, as mine on the subject isn't as broad, that with the come up time and taste, it probably wasn't LSD. OTHERS suggested it might be DOx. Though in a sense, with the legitimacy of my source, I want to believe it was LSD and still want to know the entails of why It effected me the way it did, treating it in the ideology of it was LSD. Especially regarding the headaches.

My question is as it stands, in my original post. If you care to read it .... I was expecting answers, more tailored towards my dose, setting and partly aimed at why I have a headache. It was a shock that someone suggested it could have been a whole different drug.

 

[Solipsis]

Yes you formulated it openly, which is also not very helpful unfortunately - if you want to have a clear direction in the answers to your topic. But the 3 hour come-up is what made people jump on it. Later you were as good as ready to draw conclusions.

If you want to keep a broader perspective on why you had weaker effects than you expected, there is a thread (or multiple) out there on 'why do I seem immune to LSD' or something of the sort. It's exactly this same question or sometimes complaint why wanted effects are not achieved.

There is for example 'problems getting visuals on LSD' or 'Am I immune to LSD', use the google Bluelight functionality yourself and dig deeper.

To sum up I'd say reasons for not getting proper effects are:

- either it isnt LSD
- and/or it is weakly dosed, exceedingly weakly even,
- you might be naturally resistant
- medication that interacts with it
- taking other drugs has given you cross tolerance
- maybe other reasons

 

[Hear Me Roar]

I see your point. I never said I had a 3 hour come up though. I said I had ingested it, 3 and a half hours ago.
It was only after my original post, the come up time was questioned, which arose other questions and theory's. As I said, I noticed something at the 2 hour mark.

I had already, done a general internet/bluelight search for headaches while on LSD and found nothing regarding such circumstance. Only headaches after prolong use and LSD being a treatment for cluster headaches. "The headache is what's annoying me. Not a full blown, let's take some pain meds headache, just a dull, urgh kinda headache.". I may have not made myself clear, but for clairty, since there are many threads, regarding effects as such, as you said. I have updated my original question to centre more on the headache aspect.

With the headache aspect and a general mystery for me, why I felt nothing, I thought It would make a good thread for others, who might have been through the same experience. Instead of getting lost in a huge thread and not being taken notice of. It's quite worrying to take a psychedelic, then get a headache.

If you feel this thread isn't useful, I don't mind if you delete it from the forum or close it. I guess I have my answers and feel a bit stupid for even asking now.

 

[webbykevin]

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

 

[Fieldy]

Smoke some cannabis if that's your thing...it may help induce whatever drug you have Gravity/Bucket bongs can go along way on low dose Lsd

 

[PeacePipeChief]

No one mentioned the way the tabs need to be treated . U can't touch the tabs too much or have direct sunlight on them , there's other things too like I think air is bad or something but now I say it , it sounds unlikely . So if it feels low dose and others are happy with it , maybe something's gone wrong during the handling process . I've had unexplainable dud trips while others are off their face too , and after thinkin about it I realized I touched them a fair bit and it was usually during the day . Also heat is bad , don't dack them (put em in ur crotch area) for long if ur hiding them and don't hold them whether they're in a satty/foil or not cause there's lots of heat that comes off the hands .

 

[Achten]

Always when I see people complain about having headaches I think they don't drink enough water before/during/after their trips.

 

[webbykevin]

Can you take a pain killer without it standing on the trip if you get a headache ?, ie just a normal paracetamol or even a codeine ?

 

[Hear Me Roar]

Water is my main staple drink. I keep well hydrated, never really drink fizzy pop, though I do drink fruit juice. The headache I had, literally came on a couple of hours after dosing and only disappeared this morning after a nights rest. Though it was difficult to sleep. I rarely get headaches, can't say I've ever really had a migraine as such.

I'm also interested in seeing if pain meds interact at all with LSD or whether it effects the trip. I'l have a little research and see what I find, hopefully someone will jump in with some more information. I found coffee helped.

I was thinking of the cannabis idea, but I've taken a break from smoking pot for a while. Been getting anxiety recently from smoking it, so only option I had was to kick it for a few months and see what happens when I return. Didn't want to smoke a joint to start tripping and get bad anxiety. Would be the worse trip ever. Might start smoking some mild hash, but that's a whole different story.

As for handling the LSD, It came into my possession heat sealed and the only time I handled it, was from the packaging and into my mouth. At which I picked up it from the side, by my finger nails.

P.S - Without going into too much detail, as I don't want to get into trouble 8) but I have conversed with my source, who also agrees he to recognised the bitter taste. But assures me the guy who he acquires his goods off, assured him, it was legitimate LSD and not a DOx substance. (Which yes, means nothing. Everybody lies. Dr House. Lol.) He has had the LSD sent to an independent lab some days/weeks ago(He didn't actually say). Yet has not received the results yet. But for the sake of discussion, for now I will believe him. An carry on this discussion as I intended, focused around LSD.