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How we rolled in the 90s when the pills were super strong

Firstly, if your having to take 10 pills these days, that either means the stuff your getting is crap, or you have a huge tolerance and have really damaged your serotonin receptors, also your serotonin levels decrease as you age anyway, so obviously your not going to have as much as you did 10-20 years ago and thats if you havent even used MDMA, so lets be realistic, of course its not going to be the same.
 
Yup... besides if defqons or speakers aint doin it for you guys I don't know what else to say....
 
Decline1 said:
http://ecstasy.org/testing/index.html
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Our January 1998 test results found that only 6 out of 35 pills contained MDMA, and these only contained about 70mg. (A normal dose is 100-125mg.) 27 pills, nearly three quarters, contained speed: caffeine, amphetamine and methamphetamine. Although pills sent in for testing are not representative and are always below average quality, this batch was very much worse than previous batches.
 
I would go with that in full agreement dezz if I didn't reach that level 6 months ago on edata confirmed MDMA: 1 Bowling Balls. It's the only reason I still keep battling it.
 
thelastclubkid said:
so my question to the younger people here is do you get that extreme tactile sensation effect?
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Yep. The one time I've rolled really hard, I was lucky not to be totally floored and rubbing myself on the grass. I remember I had my hoodie tied around my waist and I brushed on the fleece inside by accident and then couldn't leave it alone for ages. It felt SO GOOD. Then someone gave me a lightshow and that's the last thing I remember clearly for the next 3 hours, aside from a few random flashes. Sensory overload, absolutely incredible. Going to take a LOT of self control to wait til next time I can experience that.

I'm 21 for the record, and only rolled around half a dozen times, though I'm usually what I just call "high on life". As in, I'm always bouncing off the walls, loving life, fooling around for the hell of it with no trigger whatsoever. The number of times I get asked what I'm on - when I'm on nothing at all - is hilarious. Even at raves when I've been sober, I constantly get "I want some of whatever you're on!"
 
^^^^^ LOL @ Silveren. well i can also say that all the new dutchy pills have me feeling the same way. sensory overload is the EXACT term i used to describe it to friends. all you guys saying M is not as good now are just wrong. also i gave some friends pills and they all LOVED them too. one of my buddies would get soooo fucked all he could do was lay on the floor rubbing on everything, eyes rollin to the back of his head like a crazy person, and gurning like a MAD MAN. i shouild have taken a picture of the tooth brush that he chewed on one night. by the end of the night it just looked like a dogs chew toy lol. im telling you guys..........the M these days still gets people like it did for you 15 years ago. what you described happening to people rollin back then is still happening........JUST NOT FOR YOU!!!! i REALLY think it just comes down to you damaging your serotonin system. me and friends still get faced off a couple good beans.
 
CrazyJordan said:
If you check ecstasydata or w/e, about half the pills in the 90's were mdma + mdea, or mdma+ amph, i only saw a couple of just pure mdma if my memory serves me correctly, most pills here in europe are usually just pure mdma nothing else, maybe thats whats missing is the other ingredients.
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see the MDMA+MDEA combo seems more likely to me... because if it was a matter of dosage i think i would have felt something on the rare occasions that i do take higher dosages...
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
^^^^^ LOL @ Silveren. well i can also say that all the new dutchy pills have me feeling the same way. sensory overload is the EXACT term i used to describe it to friends. all you guys saying M is not as good now are just wrong. also i gave some friends pills and they all LOVED them too. one of my buddies would get soooo fucked all he could do was lay on the floor rubbing on everything, eyes rollin to the back of his head like a crazy person, and gurning like a MAD MAN. i shouild have taken a picture of the tooth brush that he chewed on one night. by the end of the night it just looked like a dogs chew toy lol. im telling you guys..........the M these days still gets people like it did for you 15 years ago. what you described happening to people rollin back then is still happening........JUST NOT FOR YOU!!!! i REALLY think it just comes down to you damaging your serotonin system. me and friends still get faced off a couple good beans.
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for me i get *every* other effect still from rolling... i feel awesome, get the gurning, my ego goes through the roof, energy to dance, awesome empathy, etc... i rolled last night (after taking 1/2 pill sunday and tripping on saturday) and not only did i have an awesome roll but i was so fucking 'on' with the girls it wasnt even fair to the other guys...

rolling works great for me still.. even with my doing it too often... i just dont get two specific effects anymore: i dont get the tactile overload and i dont get the crazy increased sex drive... and my sex drive is still really good fro my age because im DTF even when im sober and especially when i do blow... i could see if it was that older pills had amps/meth cause that would cause the wanting to fuck for hours on end but the missing tactile overload is the one thing thats missing that i cant explain...
 
@clubkid- well what do you mean by tactile exactly? it definitly seems like i can FEEL lights. i dont really see shit or hullucinate but my vision is way fucked. its like im looking through binoculars aka tunnel vision. not sure if thats what you mean. sorry im kinda etarded sometimes.

i still roll like i did before. but i didnt abuse MDMA like some of you *cough* BLAH *cough*

i have a vid i recorded of my friend rollin his ballzzz off and im thinking of posting it lol. ill look for it guys, its hella funny shit.
 
thelastclubkid said:
see the MDMA+MDEA combo seems more likely to me... because if it was a matter of dosage i think i would have felt something on the rare occasions that i do take higher dosages...
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I think MDEA is even more lethargic than MDMA, so the "golden" pills we all rave about may have been MDMA plus amphet, or maybe MDMA plus MBDB or MDA?

In any case it's clear that pills from yesteryear were often not clean MDMA ones like the strong Dutch presses. And again remember that when taken excessively MDMA will cause you to want to lay down and chill, whether your aged 18 or 55.
 
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if i had to guess what was different about the 90's pills. i would guess amps too. wich also explains why you guys had much worse come downs back then also.

cause MDMA and amps is pretty "intense" as you say.
 
dezz said:
I live in holland and I get the 180 mg's pills and I think you guys are shouting bullshit. I see NO difference from that video, and raves I go to. 2 pills gets me rolling for 5-6 hours. 1 keeps me high for about 4 or 5. I get how it feels. Orgasmic, bonding with other people, eyes vibrating out of your head... all that jazz. Don't try to bullshit people that MDMA was somehow better in the old days. YOU are just getting crappy shit. Theres a difference.
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Finally someone said it! People in the US dont get proper Mdma i dont think. Ive had the most empathetic bonding shit on Mandy. You clearly dont get very good md
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
if i had to guess what was different about the 90's pills. i would guess amps too. wich also explains why you guys had much worse come downs back then also.

cause MDMA and amps is pretty "intense" as you say.
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Not even. Down and sleeping close to sunrise every time. Plus those that know me well enough from PR know I like my MDMA/Amp pills. I'm well versed in them. I never had bad or harsh comedowns then and still have never to this day. My comedowns are a breeze and my next few days especially are awesome even from my amp mixes.

@thizzlemonster I took the bowling balls at the height of my too frequent rolling months I rolled 12-14 times from October till the mid January mark with the Mints soooooo.....*cough* still got overwhelmingly loved up *cough*
 
SF2011 said:
You clearly dont get very good md
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Well... I know for a fact that at least 2 of the people on the other side of the argument have tried Dutch beans and take pretty much the best MDMA in the world...


So you can say that for everyone who is saying this, or I would have already lol




I think in the end, it's going to come down to a LOT of factors... can't really just explain it with one
 
Folley said:
Well... I know for a fact that at least 2 of the people on the other side of the argument have tried Dutch beans and take pretty much the best MDMA in the world...


So you can say that for everyone who is saying this, or I would have already lol




I think in the end, it's going to come down to a LOT of factors... can't really just explain it with one
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thats me! i love dutch beans!

@blah - i dont even know man. im just guessing. you would know yourself better than anyone on here, but its like Folley says, science says your crazy. unless they were mixing all kinds of crazy shit in the old skool beans. like MDMA + MDA + AMPS + ?????........fuck dude i have no idea lol....
 
dezz said:
I live in holland and I get the 180 mg's pills and I think you guys are shouting bullshit. I see NO difference from that video, and raves I go to. 2 pills gets me rolling for 5-6 hours. 1 keeps me high for about 4 or 5. I get how it feels. Orgasmic, bonding with other people, eyes vibrating out of your head... all that jazz. Don't try to bullshit people that MDMA was somehow better in the old days. YOU are just getting crappy shit. Theres a difference.
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I agree. Two of my friends went to raves in holland in seperate occasions - both reported super super clean MDMA pill and it kept them raving it up for hours.

Do you take 1+2 pill or 2 pills at once? I presume 1 then another. Someone else said here, 1st dose = big, 2nd dose = smaller to keep it going.
 
you would think the synth would get better over time, not worse. i dont think your brain EVER FULLY "repairs" itself after your first rolls. who knows though.......maybe blah and all them are right an they were just better for some reason. the problem is that MDMA is a fairly new drug as far as drugs go. there hasnt been enough time to tell whats going on here. we are all still basically ginue pigs. it also seems to be the most "complex" drug of them all as far as things like this. that one of the reasons i find MDMA so interesting. the effects vary from batch to batch. MDMA= very interesting chem
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
@clubkid- well what do you mean by tactile exactly? it definitly seems like i can FEEL lights. i dont really see shit or hullucinate but my vision is way fucked. its like im looking through binoculars aka tunnel vision. not sure if thats what you mean. sorry im kinda etarded sometimes.

i still roll like i did before. but i didnt abuse MDMA like some of you *cough* BLAH *cough*

i have a vid i recorded of my friend rollin his ballzzz off and im thinking of posting it lol. ill look for it guys, its hella funny shit.
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oh i get the vision thing too... like when you stare at the club lights as they are flashing to the beat and you get the wierd good awesome feeling just from that... and depending on the pills i even get the eye tracers sometimes... but anyway by tactile i mean when i used to roll in the 90's it would get where anything i touched felt amazing... especially on the come up... it was very much like when you come up on acid and you get all giggly and goofy but with the added sensation of normal things feeling rediculously amazing.. e.g. i had this couch with a bunch of velvet pillows and i way sitting there just rubbing my hand on the pillow thinking it was the most amazing feeling...

edit: they have a great clip of this on family guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHXi8h8H2VA
 
oh yeah! lol yeah i DEFINITLY get that tactile thingy. everything feels really good. even my friends rough, dirty carpet felt amazing lol. next time im gettin inside my softest blanket lol.

yeah that family guy clip is the best lol. lmao my buddy does the same thing EVERY time as soon as it hits him he RIPS all his clothes off like peter and is just a mess on the floor for the next 6 hours lol. VERY FUNNY STUFF! LOL
 
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