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[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I can understand the odd instance of taking an more extreme view point to stimulate discussion or just for entertainment, but you seem to have fallen into a repetitive position where your actual views but have become lost.

It's all very well being intelligent and having intellect your persistent goading and offensive comments that arise in these spats, that you freely admit are a result of you representing views that you do not fully support are not adding anything but friction and bad feeling here. Is that really the actions of someone who claims to follow the values of the Christian faith ?

I'm not aware of anyone else here that does this so persistently as you and this is what, IMO makes you stand out, not your views or your faith, but your ability to rub people up the wrong way. If that's what you call entertainment fair enough I just fail to understand what your getting out of it

I just like highlighting that the so-called tolerant people in society are anything but. They are probably the most intolerant people i've ever come across if i'm honest, and it's made all the worse by them not being honest with themselves about it. Marmalade saying things like "I am trying to understand motivations" etc. whilst being really quite horrible and Sam sits on the side with his pom poms saying "I love that devastating stuff" etc. I only see the views I represent as just as ridiculous as what they say time and time again. It's just holding a mirror up by going as extreme as they do. It's always the same 5 or so characters though, and I refuse to be bullied into their little box, and I also refuse to leave like so many before me. I honestly think that repeatedly disagreeing with the extreme sentiment of everything they believe is what rubs them up the wrong way. They really hate disention, and the majority of the time they insult me first. Why do you think there are practically zero other people who disagree with the prevailing EADD consensus? Society is nothing like that. Please don't start on the "is that what a good Christian does" malarky, I really don't like it when people try and hold me to a faith they don't believe in to make me behave the way they want. I am well aware of my short comings as a Christian.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Aye to be fair, the "I'm not interested in what you are discussing but rather why you are discussing it" type chat is a fucking mile out. That would never fly in real life.

 

[TheSpade]

At least Limpet Chicken just wrote essays and then fucked off to make a bomb or something.

Don't try and paint me as something i'm not to try and prove your point. It really is rather pathetic. Are you what I can look forward to if I keep using drugs? Because you're putting me off a bit.

This thread is shite but these comments me me LOL. :D

 

[Albion]

It's the fucking rapture.

 

[parttime crackhead]

^^ Spade, that wasn't me who wrote that. Why can you not quote things properly?

 

[TheSpade]

^^ Spade, that wasn't me who wrote that. Why can you not quote things properly?

I can.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Haha, fuck off.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Do you like the rapper (or is it a group) Cage PTCH?

 

[Allein]

@ MSB, It's very sad really you just refuse to stop and take a good at yourself whilst being obsessed with what other people think and the way they react.

You deliberately goad people with extreme views and then pontificate about other being false, it's clearly you that is being false, by your own admission, that's just plain odd.

As far as me calling you out on being a Christian, I don't see why I shouldn't, you are consciously causing trouble and bad feeling, that wouldn't be condoned by any real Christian and I known quite a few. People that have given much of their life to others and try to be better people through how they are with other and what they do for people. These values aren't exclusive to Christianity but it's you that put yourself on that pedestal.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Being a Christian is solely about believing in Christ and being sorry for your sins. I do both of these things. It is no clear indicator of a persons behaviour, and it certainly isn't your place by any stretch of the imagination to try and impose your expectations of a Christian on my shoulders. You have no idea of what I do or don't do in the real world, and I don't feel the need to keep the peace and not burst this stupid little neohippy bubble at every chance I get just because of my religion. Would I be loving my neighbour if I didn't help them to improve themselves and become the person they think and obviously want to be? In case you hadn't noticed there aren't many other Christians in EADD, so maybe it's just plain unchristian to associate with this group of people at all?

Also, incase you hadn't noticed, I am not the only person who comes under fire from the clique either. Anyone who dissents on any opinion they hold gets it. I have seen several members bullied off the board since I joined here because they didn't meet up with their expectations or hold identical beliefs. I see their intolerance as goading me to poke them. They are asking for it. People who are tolerant really don't give a shit, I talk back and forth with them all day and my moderate side comes out with them. And like I said, but you totally ignored - probably because you're more friendly with them?, they are the ones who bring insults and bad vibes 9/10. They are the ones who swamp threads through sheer force of numbers. They are the ones who gang up on a regular basis. I'm sure if you started out moderately disagreeing with people, and came under fire in the way I do, you'd behave in much the same way. It really doesn't matter what I say. Previously I have used identical words to something a few posters before me have said, and what do they do? Attack me. A certain ex-mod pointed this out and they were promptly bullied off the board by Sammy G. You, and they, don't seem to understand this just comes down to thinking vs feeling your beliefs. The way I came to my conclusions is totally different to the way they came to theirs. If you feel your beliefs then you take it personally when someone disagrees with you, as they do, which creates the arguments and the insults.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Do you like the rapper (or is it a group) Cage PTCH?

It's just one rapper. Never really listened to that much of his stuff tbh, can only really remember him as being some "other white rapper" around the same time that Eminem was really big. I can't remember any of his tunes. The only "other white rapper" I was ever into back then was RA The Rugged Man.

 

[Marmalade]

Aye to be fair, the "I'm not interested in what you are discussing but rather why you are discussing it" type chat is a fucking mile out. That would never fly in real life.

you're very very wrong on that point. with regard to myself anyways. can't account for anyone else.

while some of the motivation to comment may get mixed up in the quagmire of shit ... ie: comments made due to frustration at the sheer incredulity of someone's comment or 'pretend opinion' (as now seems to be the case) or just the ignorant audacity of it, I can quite honestly say that when it comes to conversations where weird and contradictive behavioural issues are apparent (ie: bluntsie), my main motivation is as to why that is, and the subject matter at hand not so much. Hence why I've generally stopped discussing things of this nature with him on a factual/point by point basis, as it's pointless (since they don't make intrinsic sense to anyone but him), and why I've stuck to the things we generally identify with.

As he's now declared that his opinions are exaggerated and not real, it's pretty much confirmed how pointless it is to continue with him on any debate really. I think he may do it for a number of reasons but non of them are positive, or even compensate by being humourous.

And I do this exact same thing in real life btw, AND bring the behavioural stuff up IRL in the middle of a conversation, both in regard to my own responses and those I'm talking to. It's a decent way of cutting to the chase and to the real crux of what's being discussed and to do away with all the surface bullshit that can mask that. it can be highly effective in lots of ways when trying to understand one another and getting to a deeper level than just 'shooting the shit' which inevitably gets dull as fuck as far as I'm concerned. obviously it's not always effective, especially when it's mixed up with frustration

Bluntsie was obviously not making sense when you try to understand where he's coming from in terms of what motivates him and what his opinions actually ARE. and as he's now declared 'it's all exaggerated', this pretty much illustrates why it his that he doesn't make sense

 

[Marmalade]

@ MSB, It's very sad really you just refuse to stop and take a good at yourself whilst being obsessed with what other people think and the way they react.

You deliberately goad people with extreme views and then pontificate about other being false, it's clearly you that is being false, by your own admission, that's just plain odd.

Not only is he false, he's also pulled the being bullied line many times before. and that was nothing to do with the aspies thing.
someone who deliberately goads people, and lies about their beliefs in order to create a reaction, who then complains when he gets the reaction he's been looking for, who THEN says its all part of his game and he LOVES it ... and then stomps off in an 'I'm leaving, you're all fake and don't care about anyone' paddy

Newp, sorry. total nonsense. I don't know if he has any psychological problems, couldn't say if he's aspie or whatever ... but he is exhibiting behaviour which seems well on it's way to being sociopathic, or in the very least childlike and distinctly lacking in empathy, in conjunction of having a complete misunderstanding of how he's viewed by others

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

you're very very wrong on that point. with regard to myself anyways. can't account for anyone else.

while some of the motivation to comment may get mixed up in the quagmire of shit ... ie: comments made due to frustration at the sheer incredulity of someone's comment or 'pretend opinion' (as now seems to be the case) or just the ignorant audacity of it, I can quite honestly say that when it comes to conversations where weird and contradictive behavioural issues are apparent (ie: bluntsie), my main motivation is as to why that is, and the subject matter at hand not so much. Hence why I've generally stopped discussing things of this nature with him on a factual/point by point basis, as it's pointless, and why I've stuck to the things we generally identify with.

As he's now declared his opinions are exaggerated and not real, it's pretty much confirmed how pointless it is to continue with him on any debate really. I think he may do it for a number of reasons but non of them are positive, or even compensate by being humourous.

Any I do this exact same thing in real life btw, AND bring the behavioural stuff up IRL in the middle of a conversation, both in regard to my own responses and those I'm talking to. It's a decent way of cutting to the chase and to the real crux of what's being discussed and to do away with all the surface bullshit that can mask that. it can be highly effective in lots of ways when trying to understand one another and getting to a deeper level of just 'shooting the shit' which inevitably gets dull as fuck as far as I'm concerned.

Bluntsie was obviously not making sense when you try to understand where he's coming from in terms of what motivates him and what his opinions actually ARE. and as he's now declared 'it's all exaggerated', this pretty much illustrates why that it

clap·trap

noun /ˈklapˌtrap/ 

Absurd or nonsensical talk or ideas
- such sentiments are just pious claptrap


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Empty verbiage or nonsense. [from early 19th c.]

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pompous or important-sounding nonsense

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Do you think we could just replace all of these definitions with a picture of you? What you write is pure unadulterated shit. You never discussed anything with me in a factual way. My opinions are just more in between both what I say and what your little clique says, they are still much closer to what I say than what you say. You keep alluding to behavioural issues with me, but never saying what they are. It's like trying to grab at mist. I'm pretty sure that once again you are just painting someone who comes to different conclusions about the world based on thought rather than feelings as a bad person, or a person with flaws, whilst you are so in touch with your flaws (obviously). Get real.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Not only is he false, he's also pulled the being bullied line many times before. and that was nothing to do with the aspies thing.
someone who deliberately goads people, and lies about their beliefs in order to create a reaction, who then complains when he gets the reaction he's been looking for, who THEN says it's all part of his game and he LOVES it ... and then stomps off in an 'I'm leaving, you're all fake and don't care about anyone' paddy

Newp, sorry. total nonsense. I don't know if he has any psychological problems, couldn't say if he's aspie or whatever ... but he is exhibiting behaviour which seems well on it's way to being sociopathic, or in the very least childlike and distinctly lacking in empathy and a complete misunderstanding of how he's viewed

Yeah marmz, let me guess you're just trying to get to the bottom of this little conundrum and not being a cunt at all? Pull the other one. You are only lying to yourself, you do realise that don't you? I don't honestly give a shit that you gang up and bully me at every possible opportunity you have, i'm just pointing out that you do do it. I left once and only once, and it didn't last for long. It wasn't a particularly good time in my life, and since reevaluating how I see this forum I have cared even less. I realise that your little group is just caring for show. You can be as vile and unaccepting as you like, but as long as someone in a vulnerable position comes on and you write , that makes you a good person. Anyone can write the stupid meaningless support bullshit you do. It's never backed up by anything. There are the pretenders like you who do it for a little ego boost, and there are the people who genuinely care, and I can see the difference easily. You are so unbelievably far from the person you think you are it is shocking.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

It's just one rapper. Never really listened to that much of his stuff tbh, can only really remember him as being some "other white rapper" around the same time that Eminem was really big. I can't remember any of his tunes. The only "other white rapper" I was ever into back then was RA The Rugged Man.

O I didn't realise he was a whitey. I clicked off on one of his songs from Aesop Rock and it seemed alright. Pretty generic stuff but it's ok background music. I shall check out Rugged Man.

 

[Marmalade]

@ MSB: Sorry, your words are going in one ear and out the other, much like your apology via PM the other day (which you've now admitted wasn't genuine either). You've admitted you lie, and exaggerate and despite it all being part of your plan, get so upset you threaten to wipe people's medical records.

I'm interested in other people's opinions on this only. not someone who bullshits and decides to be serious as an when it suits. you have zero integrity, and as such your opinion means zilch, since who's to know when you're bluffing and when you aren't?

Why would I waste my time responding to that?

You can't have it both ways.

 

[Allein]

Being a Christian is solely about believing in Christ and being sorry for your sins.

That really doesn't deserve a response, if you really think that then that's fine we all have a right to believe what we want to believe.

It's a new one on me though, I've never met a Christian before who would claim to be able to distil their beliefs in 15 meaningless words, the bible teaches much more than that, as you well know.

It's you that seems to sit in judgement of people, again not something supported by the Bible and your vehement hostility and hatred that permeates so many of your posts is totally out of kilter with the values of justice and peace clearly promoted in the Christian doctrine.

You can post what you like, it doesn't change a thing.


If the truth can be told so as to be understood it will be believed

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

@ MSB: Sorry, your words are going in one ear and out the other, much like your apology via PM the other day (which you've now admitted wasn't genuine either). You've admitted you lie, and exaggerate and despite it all being part of your plan, get so upset you threaten to wipe people's medical records.

I'm interested in other people's opinions on this only. not someone who bullshits and decides to be serious as an when it suits. you have zero integrity, and as such your opinion means zilch, since who's to know when you're bluffing and when you aren't?

Why would I waste my time responding to that?

You can't have it both ways.

It's always gone in one ear and out the other, just as anyone else's voice who is criticising you will do. PTCH expressed a similar sentiment, and although it did garner a nice long bullshit defense, you would never concede a point or a flaw in the way you see yourself. I didn't say my apology wasn't genuine, I was sorry for saying the medical notes thing. I was totally off my rocker that day, and I know it. I even insulted PTCH and he is one of the few alright members on here. It's always 80% real and 20% bluff.

 

[Marmalade]

no it hasn't. I've made a big effort with you, which you admitted yourself had resulted in a change in how we got along.

I don't see a similar effort. I only see you confessing to lying and bullshitting and as such your opinion cannot be taken seriously.

How can it?

Did you really just put up a percentage for your bullshit rate? *shakes head*

It's fine to do that when it's not in the middle of a discussion about something of a fairly serious nature, but to use that in the middle of a debate, it's just a get out clause on your part, to ensure you're always on top in some way in your eyes.

You're an unhappy, under-stimulated person by your own admission. it's a pity you like to exercise your boredom in such a crass, self-aggrandising way