Stimulants Hints and Tips for Meth Smokers!

[MethedUp]

Uppers cause your heart to pump more blood. Your heart is a muscle and gets bigger just like other muscles= bad for your heart I'm new here. Ran into this thread a couple nights ago when I was looking for info on doing a hot rail. I did one for the first time (been doing meth+ everything else off and on for 12 years, on my current bender forrrrrrrr 9 months lol) like 2 weeks ago. Best high ive had in a long ass time.
I do like to mix opiates or benzos with my high. But do that rarely. I'd choose meth over coke anyday of the week.
Also, I took many health science, pharmacology, biopsych classes in college. I am pretty well informed of the side effects, damage done etc. by most things. Meth damages the release of neurotransmitters in your brain, over time permanently. like dude above said, opiates are generally not as physically damaging. But opiates also super fuck up your neurotransmitters.....
In my geekness, I have a joke for y'all: Serotonin and Dopamine. Really the only two things you enjoy.

 

[CloudedEuphoria]

Am I the only one who understood Disylus's post? Weird, yeah, but he/she has a point. We're going to die anyway. Being alive is the only thing that will certainly result it death no matter how lucky you are. Not trying to sound morbid or cynical, but I've accepted that, and I'm not trying to avoid things that might make me do exactly what I'm stuck doing anyway (die).

Although, tricomb, I appreciate that you're trying to help me do what's best for myself. I'm currently trying to decide where to go from here, whether I want to quit cold turkey, wait a while and then quit when my current stash runs out, try to cut back to an amount I find acceptable and 'use in moderation' when I really need it, or what. But all these things are issues I have to decide how I feel about. No one can really make the decision for me. And it's especially tricky for me because meth ISN'T just some fun party drug for me. I have pretty rotten health and quality of life, and it allows me to enjoy life and not struggle as much. It's saved my job, saved my relationship, made me productive, etc. But at a high cost. I can't win.

Anyway, pity party over. :D





Swain: Yeah, both meth and coke can do permanent damage to the heart, its lining, and the arteries. But it sounds like the doctor has no way of knowing that's the case. It may go away over time or it may not, but there's no damn way the doctor can tell for sure the had he never done meth, this problem wouldn't exist. If his only problem is an irregular heartbeat, that can be corrected. Before I say anything else, let me point out that I am not a doctor. That said, both my mother and I have irregular heartbeats, we ASSUME from taking birth control for extended periods. Who knows for sure. Anyway, we have both had great success treating it by taking magnesium supplements. According to WebMD and lots of other sources, it is used to treat irregular heartbeat as well as other cardiovascular issues.
[http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...redientId=998&activeIngredientName=MAGNESIUM]
I absolutely don't recommend taking my word for anything. He should at least research its effects and any risks involved, and preferably ask a pharmacist or doctor if he should try it or if there's any reason he shouldn't. But theoretically it could help heal damage in addition to making him pass any physical. Some doctors stop listening when they hear, "Yeah, I used to do drugs a while back," or see the person is overweight or whatever is easy and obvious to blame. I personally had a doctor ask over and over if I had any stress until I finally changed my answer from 'no' to 'I guess maybe a little now and then'. Then they used that to decide that I (an 11 year old kid at the time) was bleeding internally because of stress (from the horrible burden of.... choosing a cute outfit in the morning and who to sit by at lunch??). They refused to even see me in their offices anymore until I got therapy. So yeah, the doctor may be right or he may not, but it sounds like he isn't considering other possibilities. A second opinion would be good just in case something else is causing it that needs treatment.


Phew. Didn't mean for this to turn into a depressing, page-long post.

If you honestly believe that it has saved your job, relationship etc it is only because of the euphoric effects. Prolonged use (more commonly than short term) makes you feel as though life is dull and you cannot function normally or experience "joy" or "happiness" without use of the drug.
That is a direct result of use of said drug and is frequently noted as one of the main reasons users continue to use or abuse the substance.

I have a close friend who is currently experiencing this side effect and it's quite concerning and awakening for those of us who do use meth.

 

[Intoxicun7]

If you honestly believe that it has saved your job, relationship etc it is only because of the euphoric effects. Prolonged use (more commonly than short term) makes you feel as though life is dull and you cannot function normally or experience "joy" or "happiness" without use of the drug.
That is a direct result of use of said drug and is frequently noted as one of the main reasons users continue to use or abuse the substance.

I have a close friend who is currently experiencing this side effect and it's quite concerning and awakening for those of us who do use meth.

I think you misunderstood, or you just don't believe me haha. I know it's a vicious cycle of needing meth to counteract negative side effects caused by meth. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about using it as a crutch the same way people try to drown their problems with booze. There have been times that I was irritable, depressed, exhausted, or whatever else not from meth (because I hadn't been doing it and have been prone to all those things since I was a kid) and turned to meth to help me through it. So yes, there have been times that I was clean for a while but was teetering on the edge of getting fired for always calling out sick, felt shitty again and knew I couldn't call out anymore, used meth, and that gave me the boost to manage to get through it.

I'm not saying my life is horrible and when I'm sober nothing is worthwhile or enjoyable. I actually have it pretty good. But there have been times I needed some help because I didn't have it in me to just rely on sheer willpower to make myself do what I ought to.


Now, I should mention if anyone cares that I'm in the process of... uh, I guess cutting back? Or quitting? We'll see which. Anyway, the Saturday before Memorial Day, I went camping. I got high a few hours before leaving, and I took some with me thinking I'd need it to be able to enjoy the trip and not be a drag (prolonged use at this point). However, I didn't. I wasn't even trying to quit, but it just sort of happened. I didn't feel the need for it during the whole 3 day trip, and really didn't want it at all. I managed to be very happy and full of energy. I started eating again, sleeping a normal schedule, etc. without even trying. So when I got back home, I rolled with it and didn't do anymore then either. This is what I meant when I said I needed to time my quitting/extreme cutting back just right so that it wouldn't be a struggle. I haven't been struggling at all. I've gained some weight back, I eat a good 100% more than I did before, and all that. Best of all, I was happy for the whole week starting that Saturday, so I didn't really have to deal with any debilitating depression. Last night I snorted a line because I got weak and didn't want to feel sad anymore (unrelated shit going on in my life). I could've just dealt with it, but I didn't want to. It was like the emotional version of a painkiller. Anyway, I went that whole 8 days without any and without even trying, so this is a huge improvement. I don't mind being an occasional user. I think now I'm in control of the situation enough that I can trust myself. I'm not going to put any exact goals in front of myself as far as frequency or quantity I'm ok with using, but I think my judgment is sound now, so whatever feels ok is what I'll go with.

Anyway, that's my status, and now I swear by camping to ease or eliminate the unpleasantness those first few days without meth. :D

 

[Dr. Ayahuasca]

I got a little excited with my lighter and got a brown spot right in the center of my pizzo...I managed to roll all the produckt up on the sides but is there a way to clean that out of there w/o risking looking any of my stuff?

 

[tricomb]

Acetone on a q-tip, make sure there is no open flames (acetone is 5x as explosive as gasoline) and that you allow it to dry and of course make sure the pizzo is not hot when you do this.

You really should try better ROAs man, vaporizing tweak is like the worst way to do it.

 

[Tryptamino]

saw some posts in here that were VERY dangerous, possibly causing ODs.

DO NOT SMOKE METH OUT OF A BONG!!

If you do, you will lose the meth in the water, and if you drink the bong water, you might die, as the quantities of meth in there are almost as big as the total meth you've smoked during that session, possibly more, as more than half of the meth could have been absorbed in the water, as it is freely soluble in water! dont kill yourself by ODing on meth by being a damn fool, just get a damn pookie or some foil

 

[THC2LSD]

saw some posts in here that were VERY dangerous, possibly causing ODs.

DO NOT SMOKE METH OUT OF A BONG!!

If you do, you will lose the meth in the water, and if you drink the bong water, you might die, as the quantities of meth in there are almost as big as the total meth you've smoked during that session, possibly more, as more than half of the meth could have been absorbed in the water, as it is freely soluble in water! dont kill yourself by ODing on meth by being a damn fool, just get a damn pookie or some foil

You don't lose very much meth, maybe like 1%, 5% tops. It seems that meth in vapor form isn't soluble enough in water to dissolve in the short contact time. The reason it's used is it give cooled, condensed, fat hits. Actually seems more effective than a regular glass dick.

Although i do agree don't drink the bong water unless you haven't smoked that much out of it. I've made that mistake, drinking meth bong water heavily used by hardcore tweakers. I was screaming gibberish, arms went numb, heart was racing. I felt like I was going to die. Luckily meth is much harder to have a lethal OD on than say opioids.

Couldn't the water be boiled off to recover the meth?

 

[Tryptamino]

You don't lose very much meth, maybe like 1%, 5% tops. It seems that meth in vapor form isn't soluble enough in water to dissolve in the short contact time. The reason it's used is it give cooled, condensed, fat hits. Actually seems more effective than a regular glass dick.

Although i do agree don't drink the bong water unless you haven't smoked that much out of it. I've made that mistake, drinking meth bong water heavily used by hardcore tweakers. I was screaming gibberish, arms went numb, heart was racing. I felt like I was going to die. Luckily meth is much harder to have a lethal OD on than say opioids.

Couldn't the water be boiled off to recover the meth?

weird i would think that most of the meth would just stay in there...

and yeah you could boil it off

also, shit that sounds scary, similar to the first time i tried meth, which was 60mg of oral desoxyn (prolly not as much, but for a first time meth user, 60mg of meth is WAAAYYYY too much, and since its the D-isomer, its twice as potent as racemic meth, so that 120mg! i was tweaked out of my fucking head for like 10 hours, with a 4 hour peak

 

[Jktm]

Ya, I've gotten huge rips off of a bong with a freebase pipe in place of the downstem...

 

[tricomb]

You don't lose very much meth, maybe like 1%, 5% tops. It seems that meth in vapor form isn't soluble enough in water to dissolve in the short contact time. The reason it's used is it give cooled, condensed, fat hits. Actually seems more effective than a regular glass dick.

I don't think so, methamp is highly soluble in water I'm pretty sure it's more than that but I don't have any sources.

Bongs generally result in larger hits anyways, usually it's a higher concentration of active ingredient vapor than hits from a pipe.

 

[littlepenguin]

perhaps you should check your "facts" and list your "sources" before you spout a bunch of nonsense.

I'm smoking out of a bong right now, as with pretty much every day, and I'll tell ya, all the meth does not get lost in the water because, well, I'm hi.

That water is like liquid gold. *(in the name of harm reduction, I wouldn't recommend this to un-seasoned users)* I use the water for rectal administration. It works fantastically. I do this because I play soccer often, and I would prefer not to be vaping (smoking) before game time, so to get the buzz, I booty bump. (I have stomach issues, so oral administration is not in the cards for me.) However, I always count how many bowls have been smoked out of said bong water, that way I know how saturated the water is with the drug. I'm constantly cleaning my equipment anyway, at least every 3 bowls, so the water usually doesn't get much stronger than that. Nobody's going to die from consuming a little bong water if they use their brains, aka don't go drinking a cup full of somebody's bong water which could have been sitting around for a few months or however long. Think, people.

And speaking of OD'ing, I think I've been wayyyy more zooted off smoking than I ever have with bong water. If I'm sitting around with a specific friend, he's always packing massive bowls and constantly passing it around, I lose track of how many times I'm hitting it, and I stand up to leave and I'm like jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus I am hiiiiiiiiiiii, like, can't wait to go home and clean my house hi. lol - my point being that, I know pretty much exactly how much I'm getting with my bong water as opposed to sitting around and vaping like a choo choo train.

I have searched endlessly on the webs to find a definitive answer to the question: exactly how much methamphetamine is absorbed in the water from a bong, but all I can find are websites with people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground answering questions about various topics associated with meth. Sad.

saw some posts in here that were VERY dangerous, possibly causing ODs.

DO NOT SMOKE METH OUT OF A BONG!!

If you do, you will lose the meth in the water, and if you drink the bong water, you might die, as the quantities of meth in there are almost as big as the total meth you've smoked during that session, possibly more, as more than half of the meth could have been absorbed in the water, as it is freely soluble in water! dont kill yourself by ODing on meth by being a damn fool, just get a damn pookie or some foil

..you might die, as the quantities of meth in there are almost as big as the total meth you've smoked during that session, possibly more...

for Realzzzz? meth actually multiplies itself in water????? damn maybe I should stop shaking the meth tree in my back yard (located next to the money tree, of course) and just pour some water on it instead...sheeeesh. 8(

 

[Minion]

I read this whole thread in one night. If it was a few pages longer I would get dressed and go to trade school, but it's not, so I'm gonna sleep for 2 hours and go to class.
It's only day 15, and i've been sleeping every day the last 5 days, so... realistically, I feel pretty fucking good.

And by good; i mean shit. I'll revive this thread better when I'm more cracked out, or less cracked out, but not this level of cracked out.

Australian ice for the win.

 

[Minion]

To Str8SickLoco: are you still alive bro?

 

[Brandasaur]

Smoking meth, Vancouver style.

So here is how I was taught to smoke meth, or as they call it here in Vancouver, side. I have found that none of these "Beginners guides" helped me when first dabbling in meth so im making my own.

1.Grab no more no less than 1 point. This is the perfect amount for a glass 'oil burner', it will last long, wont all burn away, you will get cloud after cloud, and it will get you high

2.Load it into the bowl through the hole in the top of the bulb, make sure you hold the pipe in the palm of your hand while filling to catch any falling shards, tap it all into one pile

3.Use a BIC lighter and put the flame 2-2.5 cm below the bottom of the bowl and melt the shards into a puddle, remove heat and slowly rock the pipe side to side so the puddle spreads just a little

4.Blow the little amount of smoke out, let the puddle crystallize, this not only apparently removes cuts, but also makes the bowl last longer

5.Again, melt into puddle with flame 2-2.5 cm below, this time do not remove heat but rather rock pipe from side to side while keeping the lighter in the same spot.

6.When you see the pipe get thick with smoke HIT IT BRO. Not too hard, not too fast, not too slow, just right and milky.

7.Your lungs are about to burst, so you take the flame away but you keep hooting, the meth will still smoke while it is cooling down.

8. Hold that sweet sweet side in your lungs for no more and no less than 4 seconds, after all, a tweakers gotta get the most bang for their buck eh?

9. Let it cool down and recrystallize again. Do not start heating/smoking until it is fully crystallized

10.Repeat steps 5-9 until it does not smoke anymore

11.If the pipe turns black, simply wipe it off on your sock or something DARK

 

[califrog]

12. Find a clock radio to take apart...yo

 

[Hiltoniano]

This is triggering at it's finest...

 

[Thanatos]

I've never hit crystal any other way than this?

 

[tricomb]

merging with the megathread

 

[Kristywl]

ahem...

HOW TO BOOTY BUMP: AKA RECTAL ADMINISTRATION by littlepenguin

So you wanna put meth up your butt? Well, you've come to the right place my friend. Follow these tried and true steps for the best booty bumping experience possible.

EQUIPMENT:
1) A baby nose cleaner. Yes, this thing right here:

Walk thru the baby aisle with all the lotions and diapers and whatnot and you'll find it there, for like two or three dollars. Keep it clean, and you'll have a booty bumper for a loooong time.
2) A shallow dish or bowl to put your booty bump shot in.
3) semi-lukewarm water

PREPARATIONS:
1) Obtain product. Weigh out desired amount of product (for me, I put some out on the counter and crush it up and chop it really fine as if I was setting up a rail, and I even do set up a rail, because that way it's easy for me to recognize how much of the powder I will be adding to my water. I do this because often times, you'll grab a tiny leetle shard and you'll think 'man this ain't shit' but then you crush it up to do a line and you're all 'where the eff did that come from'...and not only that, since I always grab too much for myself, well golly gee, I've got a line all set up for me later. Two birds, one stone. You know the drill.)
2) Get your dish. Ramekin. Monkey dish. Small bowl. Whatever the hell you wanna use. I use a tall shot glass, because this way I don't add too much water to the mix. (If you do add too much water, just find a bottle to keep it in for later. Waste not, want not.) Add your finely chopped product to the shot glass. Top with kinda lukewarm water (a little warm water is very relaxing for your poop chute. However, do NOT USE HOT WATER! yeowcha! Err on the side of caution, and when you think you've got a temp you want, do it just a little cooler than that, until you figure out what's comfy for you.) I digress. So, semi lukewarm water and product in shot glass. How much water, you ask? Well, I guess I would say about one oz. of H2O, (approx. 30 mL) or maybe a tad more. It's important to use enough water, but not too much. If you don't use enough, well, you'd be trying to shoot goo up your......yeahhhhhhh anyways....and if you use too much, and you shoot all that water up your sphinchter, you're gonna have to poo like nobody's biz...so find a happy medium and stick around an oz of fluid or so.
OPTIONAL, YET AWESOME PREPARATION:
Enema. Yep, enema. Don't gimme that look, you're about to put meth up your ass with a baby nose dropper for pete's sake, so just listen.
I never ever use chemical enemas, the ones that are supposed to make you poo. No no no. I just use a little bit (about 1/4 cup or a tad more) of semi lukewarm water and a dash of salt, squeeze it up there, stick your ass up in the air for about 5-10 seconds, and get up and go to the toilette and do your thang. Not only does this leave you with a minty fresh clean feeling, but your sphinchter will have more free area to absorb your dopeage! Brilliant!

RECTAL ADMINISTRATION:
1) Grab your baby nose cleaner. Your shot mix should be chillin' in your bowl/cup/dish of choice. Squeeze bulb on baby nose cleaner. Stick end into dish/glass. Release the squeeze, sucking up all the deliciousness preciousness into the bulb of the squishy thingy.
2) Find a place to get comfy, cuz you're gonna be there for a minimum of ten minutes. Grab your phone, your laptop, your mom, your cat, whatever you like.
3) Lay a towel down. Shit happens, yo.
4) Lay down on your left side, with your left leg extended, and right leg flexed forward for balance. See here:

Don't like that position? Try this one:

Either way, you need to lay still for AT LEAST 10 minutes. So I prefer position 1, so then I can watch some p0rns on the old laptop or what have you. (booty bumps make me wicked crazy horny I tell ya...)
5) Lube up your balloon knot or lube up the end of the baby nose cleaner with a little spit, or lube, or whatever you want, or just throw it in raw dog. Whatever makes you happy. Not like you're about to take king kong kock here or anything. Slide it in about 1/2-3/4". Squeeze bulb firmly, but gently. You don't want to blast it inside, but you want the motion to be swift enough to get it all in one squirt. Doing more than one squishy squirt isn't bad, but it forces extra air in there and I am not a huge fan.
6) Lay still and relax. Take deep breaths. It's usually a tiny tad uncomfortable for the first 3-4 minutes (the feeling like you're gonna shit yourself) but just relax and know that the feeling will pass shortly. Don't poo. You'll end up taking a really expensive shit. Nobody wants expensive shits.

Well, there ya go! You have just successfully administered illegal drugs up your poop chute! Call your moms!

So funny

 

[opiatekrzy]

Plugging meth is a pretty nice feeling, to me it's identical to IV use except not s rush like IV gives. Beware of possibility of irritated bowel, could be painful at times...