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festival death due to " Benzo Fury" ?

the discussion has become rather baroque, is it just my mexified mind or does nothing make any sense any more!!! <3 =D
 
I was saying that what he said about mixed signals, and confusing your heart, is bollocks. A depressant will depress your nervous system, and slow your heart down - it doesn't matter what drug you've taken. If you had taken a valium during your bad experience, it would have slowed down your body and mind. It would not have put any additional strain on your body - quite the opposite. That's all I was saying.
 
Treacle said:
I was saying that what he said about mixed signals, and confusing your heart, is bollocks. A depressant will depress your nervous system, and slow your heart down - it doesn't matter what drug you've taken. If you had taken a valium during your bad experience, it would have slowed down your body and mind. It would not have put any additional strain on your body - quite the opposite. That's all I was saying.
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Maybe you're right man...I've always been cautious just when I've had some RC's and my heart's been beating out my chest.As I say though that's just my point of view.I thought best ride out the storm and not take any vals.
 
You've always been cautious.

Just...

when you've had some RCs and your heart's been beating out of your chest.


My delightful fish supper (I had one tonight, it was fucking delicious by the way) I can make neither head nor tail of your recommendations and observations yet I love you like I love my little cat* <3

*watch your back, I can sneak up quietly!
 
knockando said:
You've always been cautious.

Just...

when you've had some RCs and your heart's been beating out of your chest.


My delightful fish supper (I had one tonight, it was fucking delicious by the way) I can make neither head nor tail of your recommendations and observations yet I love you like I love my little cat* <3

*watch your back, I can sneak up quietly!
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'I've always been cautious just'......typing the way I speak just ;) don't worry,it's a Norn Ireland thing :) maybe a comma after the 'just' might have made things clearer =D
 
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FishplusChips said:
Maybe you're right man...I've always been cautious just when I've had some RC's and my heart's been beating out my chest.As I say though that's just my point of view.I thought best ride out the storm and not take any vals.
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I am definitely right. ;) There's not much a good dose of valium won't sort out, when shit gets a bit too much. Again, that's what you'd get in a hospital, unless they just leave you to ride it out (cunts).
 
Treacle said:
I am definitely right. ;) There's not much a good dose of valium won't sort out, when shit gets a bit too much. Again, that's what you'd get in a hospital, unless they just leave you to ride it out (cunts).
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I always thought that too...until I experienced MDPV and Camfetamine.I take your point though.Maybe I'm just being para...or safe =D I don't know enough to say for sure.
 
I'm not sure anyone knows. The best thread would be the Regional Pill/MDMA thread, for a better answer.
 
For the record, I was importing, which is illegal and could happen to anyone.
 
Treacle said:
I am definitely right. ;) There's not much a good dose of valium won't sort out, when shit gets a bit too much. Again, that's what you'd get in a hospital, unless they just leave you to ride it out (cunts).
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same. Bang a few vallies down n im good
 
Ninae said:
Just worked up the balls to open the letter and am a few days behind but it should be okay. But this time I thought for sure it was it. Pretty sure anyone else in the same place would be banged up for some time by now and what about them? Seems like to the legal system I can do no wrong any which way.
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Hold on a minute ninae, what do you mean they'll drop the charges if you'll accept a fine? A fine is a criminal record and stays on your record for five years - it's going to fuck up your chances of getting house insurance, ban you from America etc.
 
I first heard that about speedballs - "If you take a speedball your heart doesn't know whether to shit or bust". I was never convinced.
 
They're droping the courtcase if I accept the fine. I have several unpaid fines already.
 
Sooo, the dude that died at rockness is my best friend. The guy that ended up in hospital is also a very close friend and I also know the girl. All three of them took benzo fury. All three of them were taken to the hospital with kidney failure. I know people have been taking BF for a while now and it seems pretty safe but what came in that wee packet was not... The two that survived have permanent kidney damage.

IMO everything needs to be legalised and properly regulated. With our drugs being traded purely by criminals, taking anything at all is like playing fucking roulette.
 
Ismene said:
I first heard that about speedballs - "If you take a speedball your heart doesn't know whether to shit or bust". I was never convinced.
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That's what I used to think was so risky about speedballing. Theya fucking liability to cause heroin overdoses, but not a fickle heart.



Mmmurl if what you say is true, were they chronic users of drugs/alcohol and benzo fury pellets? Did they use powder 6-apb regularly too?
 
I don't think it was the first time for any of them but they definitely weren't using anything regularly.
 
There's something inexplicably odd about their deaths...If they weren't unhealthy people, and there have been no other deaths reported from benzo fury around this time (if at all), and yet an isolated group of friends suffered kidney failure from what sounds like only a pellet each...The only active ingredient purportedly in benzo fury is 6-apb, and whilst I don't bother with the branded pellets these days, I used to use them fairly heavily during sessions without incident...If anything it seems like one of the more dependable RC stims.

That's not doing justice to the fact its lost you a close friend though...The fact it doesn't make much sense must feel like a huge disservice of fate.
 
Mmmurl said:
Sooo, the dude that died at rockness is my best friend. The guy that ended up in hospital is also a very close friend and I also know the girl. All three of them took benzo fury. All three of them were taken to the hospital with kidney failure. I know people have been taking BF for a while now and it seems pretty safe but what came in that wee packet was not... The two that survived have permanent kidney damage.

IMO everything needs to be legalised and properly regulated. With our drugs being traded purely by criminals, taking anything at all is like playing fucking roulette.
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Welcome to BL, albeit in tragic circumstances. My heart goes out to you.

But thank you for an eminently sensible and bang on first post.
 
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